Rat Monster

[Nellie]

When doing a building search and you come across something like this (http://www.jbeckton.com/pics/ratmonster.wmv)...what do you do? :badgrin:

[cal911gal]

I'd get out the 40 caliber.

[NorCalN00b]

PETA...ugh

bunch of messed up people a.k.a liberals

['86 Samurai]

I don't see how they justify feeling that dolphins are more important (and worthy of protection) than rats and ants without abandoning their love of animals. Do they only love 'good' animals? :rolleyes:

[uoplax13]

PETA...ugh

bunch of messed up people a.k.a liberals


Not all liberals are in PETA or the Sierra Club.........and some of us even drive gas-guzzling SUVs and have no problem at all shooting rat monster things right in the face! :smile:

[TheForceCHP]

that was awesome:!:

[junebughunter]

The quality of the scares in that show were awesome. Wasn't it on FX. I actually watched that one when it aired originally. They did a good job with that rat...

A real man would have caught it and cooked it for dinner before they had a chance to tell them it was a "little person" dressed in a costume. I guess that's why they get these pansy dudes to do this...besides it's funnier watching a guy scream like a girl...

['86 Samurai]

Not all liberals are in PETA or the Sierra Club.........and some of us even drive gas-guzzling SUVs and have no problem at all shooting rat monster things right in the face! :smile: :lol:

Good for you!

[pupdog]

I'm in the Sierra Club, and enviornment is the 1st issue I look at when voting! Money is temporary, but what's done to the earth is forever! Since when did 'tree hugger' become a deragatory term?

And don't you think tagging somebody is 'liberal' or 'conservative' is too general? Can't stand it when people do that. There's too many issues for generalisation.

As for the rats & ants...I gleefully flushed about a dozen ticks down the toilet yesterday after pulling them off my dog post-hiking. Blood sucking little &%#&!!

[uoplax13]

What the Sierra club does, stands for, etc... is great. I think I've just become a little cynical after seeing so many H2's cruising around up here with Sierra Club or 'Keep Tahoe Blue' stickers on them while their yuppie owners sip on their starbucks before tossing them out the window (sometimes into the lake!), wrecking in the snow, driving like jerks, etc... Am I a hypocrite for driving an SUV? Possibly, but at least I recognize it! Anyways, apologies for the generalization. I think tagging someone as conservative or liberal is general, but if we look at everyone's stance on every issue, how will we ever be able to label people?

[Mac]

Since when did 'tree hugger' become a deragatory term?
Hoo boy - this is turning into a topic I'll probably stay out of for the most part, because I have VERY strong feelings about it. I'm a dirtbike rider and off-road recreationist (who also happens to believe in responsible access and being a steward of the lands you ride on), and I strongly disagree with the Sierra Club's visions and practices. While I recognize that there are some areas that should NOT allow motorized access, there are plenty of other areas that could be shared responsibly and equitably.....but the radical environmentalists won't be happy until ALL motorized access is eliminated from ALL open land EVERYWHERE. What irritates me most is that they use pseudo-science, partial facts and outright lies to support their cause. Fortunately, many people are finally waking up and seeing the light, and groups such as the Blue Ribbon Coalition (of which I'm a member) and many others are steadily growing in size and power, and rising up against the radical environmentalists' efforts.

Since I've never been accused of sugar-coating my feelings, let me come right out and say how I feel: I think that the Sierra Club, Earth First!, Greenpeace, and all their ilk should be declared domestic terrorists, and hunted down and eliminated just like Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Do a Google search for Earth First's "Death Manual", and you'll see what I'm talking about. They refer to off-road recreationists as "enemy combatants", and give explicit directions and diagrams on how to construct booby-traps that will maim or kill innocent riders who are doing nothing more than enjoying the outdoors - often in 100% legal areas.

[TheForceCHP]

Since when did 'tree hugger' become a deragatory term?
Hoo boy - this is turning into a topic I'll probably stay out of for the most part, because I have VERY strong feelings about it. I'm a dirtbike rider and off-road recreationist (who also happens to believe in responsible access and being a steward of the lands you ride on), and I strongly disagree with the Sierra Club's visions and practices. While I recognize that there are some areas that should NOT allow motorized access, there are plenty of other areas that could be shared responsibly and equitably.....but the radical environmentalists won't be happy until ALL motorized access is eliminated from ALL open land EVERYWHERE. What irritates me most is that they use pseudo-science, partial facts and outright lies to support their cause. Fortunately, many people are finally waking up and seeing the light, and groups such as the Blue Ribbon Coalition (of which I'm a member) and many others are steadily growing in size and power, and rising up against the radical environmentalists' efforts.

Since I've never been accused of sugar-coating my feelings, let me come right out and say how I feel: I think that the Sierra Club, Earth First!, Greenpeace, and all their ilk should be declared domestic terrorists, and hunted down and eliminated just like Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Do a Google search for Earth First's "Death Manual", and you'll see what I'm talking about. They refer to off-road recreationists as "enemy combatants", and give explicit directions and diagrams on how to construct booby-traps that will maim or kill innocent riders who are doing nothing more than enjoying the outdoors - often in 100% legal areas.

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On that booby-trap thing, somebody was just telling me about how two or three people just got charged with doing that to some riders. I do not know if they are associated with any of "those" organizations

EDIT: Here is the topic from another site

Saw this on the Murcury News web site. These people need to go to jail for a long, long time:



Posted on Sat, May. 20, 2006



LOS GATOS




Suspects in booby-trap incident now expected to enter pleas May 26

Two of the Los Gatos residents charged with booby-trapping and badly injuring a neighbor on a motorcycle were in Santa Clara County Superior Court on Friday to face felony charges. But their pleas were put off for a week.

Donald Bryant, 62, Donna Olsen, 46, and Edward Anderson, 48, were arrested and charged this week in the May 6 incident on Lomo Chiquita Road.

Anderson was not in court Friday. All are expected to enter pleas May 26.

Each faces up to eight years in prison, if convicted.

The motorcyclist, Robert Barnes, whose face was swollen and scabbed, was in court for the proceeding with his family and friends.

``I'm still in a state of shock,'' Barnes said outside of court.

Police said the three suspects lay in wait and pulled a rope or a bar across the road as Barnes, a 46-year-old neighbor, rode by on his motorcycle at about 25 mph. Barnes was hurled off his bike and -- after he was brought to the hospital -- spent six days in a coma. He received hundreds of stitches and plates in his jaw.

Barnes and investigators said they knew of no motive for the trap.

``I don't think it was about dirt bikers,'' Barnes said. ``But I really don't know why this happened.''

Prosecutor Lee Frasier said the suspects believed ``this was their road and their road only.''

``There is no justifiable reason to booby trap the path of a motorcycle rider,'' Frasier said. ``It's dangerous and life threatening, and the victim in this case is very lucky to be alive.''

In an odd twist, Barnes has reported that his motorcycle was stolen soon after he was injured. A Santa Cruz cycle shop that heard about the theft on the news has offered to replace the high-performance dirt bike.

[uoplax13]

My little disclaimer is that most of my comments are in jest, so hopefully nobody gets too offended. That said, I am in total agreement with Mac on this. I am all for responsible off-roading, love taking my jeep out on trails, and always "tread lightly", "pack it out", etc... Any group has good and bad people in it.....environmentalist groups included. In one of my classes we studied various terrorist groups, and while my presentation ended up being on the IRA, I saw several interesting groups present on Earth First, the ELF, and a few other environmentally-minded groups. I don't think the Sierra Club has reached the same level yet, but many many enviro-groups are already considered terrorist organizations. I really think it's too bad when a couple nut jobs take it too far and end up hurting a groups cause, that would otherwise be pretty well justified...sometimes...

[uoplax13]

Didn't this thread start off with something about a Rat Monster? My bad Nellie......:smile:

[Cameron]

I think that dirt bike riders AND members of sierra club can both agree that Giant Rat Monsters just aren't cool. haha! :biggrin:

[uoplax13]

Way to be the diplomat!:lol:

[Mac]

Sorry, my bad for getting off the original topic. Put a saddle on that little sucker and ride 'im! Yeee-hawwwww! :lol:

[pupdog]

I think uoplax & I must be on the same page here, because Mac brought up off roading, and I LOVE off-roading! Well, off-paved, on 4x4 dirt roading, that is.
I didn't say I supported exremists. I believe I stated that I am an enviornmentalist. I don't consider those who use violence toward others and claiming 'enviornmentalist' to be enviornmentalists.

I was looking for something from the CHP website to quote here, but now I can't find it. A little something to remind folks of 3 priorities: safety, enviornment, catch the bad guy. This is what I was told by a Captain during a mock QAP, and I remember seeing it on the website too. It's yet another reason I want to work for CHP.

[Mac]

That wasn't intended as a personal attack, Pupdog.....the topic just gets me hot under the collar because of the extremist hypocrites who call themselves "environmentalists". Burning car dealerships or housing tracts in the name of environmentalism is just like committing cold-blooded murder in the name of pacifism.

[retchp]

I didn't read this whole thread until today because I suspected that anything about a "rat monster" would be something I would just as soon live without seeing. Now that I have read it and noted the posts about environmentalism, liberals, conservatives etc. I would like to keep it going awhile longer by asking if any of you see a trend that I have noticed for the past few years in advertising for 4X4 vehicles by the car companies?
What I am referring to is the commercials where there is a barely visible white crawler at the bottom saying something like, "professional driver, closed course, do not attempt, tread lightly etc". Meanwhile in the picture there is some jerk off driving a 4X4 in a river, or hauling some Brazilian natives through the jungle or raising a three hundred foot long rooster tail while he speeds along a mountain trail.
I think the American public is a lot like Homer Simpson and if they see it on the Tee Vee they think it must be how to live in real life so they go out and do just those things described above.
When I am out in a peaceful quiet mountain area hiking with my dog and my wilderness experience is disturbed by a group of off road beer bellied lazy fools riding their roaring quads or dirt bikes at high speed it really upsets me. Partly because they aren't man enough to walk to the location and partly because they are ruining the spot for animals and people to enjoy. I sometimes have empathy for the ELF and Sierra Clubbers at that point, and would willingly do damage to the vehicles and the riff raff riding or driving them if I thought I could do so with no fear of ass whip or prosecution.
Usually I just mark that spot as a place not to return to however. Now I am not referring to off roaders in certified off road areas just the type of fool I mention above.
As Stephen Colbert said on the Colbert Report on Comedy Channel, " Thank God Teddy Roosevelt started the National Park System...it gives me a quiet place to ride my snowmobile!

[SB 405]

Okay here is my plan....I catch the little bastard,throw him in a horse trailer and tow him around the country with a sign that reads "Take a look at the Rat Monster,half man half Rat $1.00" I figure it's a great way to travel around and get paid for it.;) Drive that little guy around a few shopping mall parking lots and i'm gold baby.