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zanev
11-02-2009, 10:10 PM
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/11/02/Breathalyzer-man-charged-with-DUI/UPI-22381257187091/

On a serious note, i don't get why people think drinking and driving is a good idea. Not only do you endanger your life, but the life of others.

Lilrecruit21
11-03-2009, 08:47 AM
In the Navy, DUI's are a huge problem that has left many sailors forced to get out, kicked out, or not allowed to re-enlist. Most commands average one DUI per month and most bases average at least one per week, and these are our military folks! On many occasions, I remember being in an "open captain's mast" where the CO openly disciplines people in front of the whole command to set an example. Very many of them were done due to DUI's...and the most common answer to why they were drinking and driving was "I didn't feel like I was drunk or impaired." No matter how many times someone hears or reads that drinking impairs judgement, they just don't get it that they should not be making any decisions after they have been drinking. These decisions should be made before the beer is cracked open, but they just don't get it.

HonkingAntelope
11-03-2009, 12:22 PM
In the Navy, DUI's are a huge problem that has left many sailors forced to get out, kicked out, or not allowed to re-enlist. Most commands average one DUI per month and most bases average at least one per week, and these are our military folks! On many occasions, I remember being in an "open captain's mast" where the CO openly disciplines people in front of the whole command to set an example. Very many of them were done due to DUI's...and the most common answer to why they were drinking and driving was "I didn't feel like I was drunk or impaired." No matter how many times someone hears or reads that drinking impairs judgement, they just don't get it that they should not be making any decisions after they have been drinking. These decisions should be made before the beer is cracked open, but they just don't get it.

Unfortunately, all the per se laws were written with absolutely no regard for the simple fact that different individuals have different alcohol tolerance and react differently to alcohol.

Depending on genetics and alcohol tolerance, some people will be just as impaired @ .02% BAC as someone else @ .12% BAC when it comes to the ability to operate a vehicle.

When the law makes it legally impossible for a person to stop by a local bar or a friend's place for two or three beers on the way home from work, is it any wonder so many people regard drunk driving as a crime only when you get caught?

CHPwannaBE
11-03-2009, 01:14 PM
In the Navy, DUI's are a huge problem that has left many sailors forced to get out, kicked out, or not allowed to re-enlist. Most commands average one DUI per month and most bases average at least one per week, and these are our military folks! On many occasions, I remember being in an "open captain's mast" where the CO openly disciplines people in front of the whole command to set an example. Very many of them were done due to DUI's...and the most common answer to why they were drinking and driving was "I didn't feel like I was drunk or impaired." No matter how many times someone hears or reads that drinking impairs judgement, they just don't get it that they should not be making any decisions after they have been drinking. These decisions should be made before the beer is cracked open, but they just don't get it.


Funny you mention the Navy. I had the priviledge of being part of a DUI wet lab on base for officers all around the region. Myself and another guy participated. It began at 0700! First we drank 8oz of rum waited an hour took a breathalyzer. Next we drank another 8oz of rum waited an hour then the last breathalyzer. I think I ended up being %0.12. The officers that tested me needed to try and determine what my BAC % was. I also completed a series of tests. The most popular was the pen going back and forth without moving my head.
The next day I was told I fell down during the line test and told an officer my middle name was donut. I thought it was a great experience,from what I can remember. Fortunately the base I am at is very small and doesn't get many dui's as opposed to the larger Air Force base close by. Glad I could help the officers with their training.

Chippysgt
11-03-2009, 02:43 PM
Unfortunately, all the per se laws were written with absolutely no regard for the simple fact that different individuals have different alcohol tolerance and react differently to alcohol.

Depending on genetics and alcohol tolerance, some people will be just as impaired @ .02% BAC as someone else @ .12% BAC when it comes to the ability to operate a vehicle.

When the law makes it legally impossible for a person to stop by a local bar or a friend's place for two or three beers on the way home from work, is it any wonder so many people regard drunk driving as a crime only when you get caught?

Except your wrong and yes, I am an expert on the subject. What you have said is a defense attorney's argument when he is inexperienced and doesn't have scientific expertise. Yes, some are impaired at .02 and all are impaired at .08 unless you can prove otherwise and there is not a lot of success in that pursuit. The average human body can absorb and metabolize about one "drink" (1oz 80 proof), one beer (12 oz) or one 6 oz glass of wine per hour. So if you stop after work and have 2 or 3 beers over an hour, you will not be over the illegal limit of .08.
I was there when the new laws were being made and they definitely did consider all the thing you mentioned although genetics is a strange twist and maybe we don't want to go there.