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HIPCHIP
09-22-2009, 05:50 PM
LA police stage huge raid on notorious street gang

Published: 9/22/09, 9:25 PM EDT
By THOMAS WATKINS

LOS ANGELES (AP) - More than a thousand law enforcement officers descended Tuesday on the homes of key members of a notorious street gang suspected of killing a sheriff's deputy and murdering rivals while defying authorities for decades.

A federal indictment named 88 suspects and detailed criminal activity spanning more than a decade.

Forty-six people were arrested in the pre-dawn raid targeting members of the Avenues gang, which claims a swath of northeast Los Angeles as its turf.

Among them was Tammy Armstrong, a corrections officer accused of helping incarcerated gang members, Deputy Police Chief Charlie Beck said. It was unclear when she might be arraigned.


Another 33 suspects were already in custody, and nine remained at large.

The operation involved 1,100 police officers working with nearly 300 federal agents, making it one of the biggest raids in city history.

The indictment reads like a laundry list of gang crime: the murder of rivals, prolific drug dealing, weapons violations and money laundering. Prosecutors say the Avenues preyed on community members, with two named suspects accused of attacking a resident in a parking lot then shooting him to death when he tried to call for help.

Another woman was pistol-whipped then shot at but survived to identify an assailant by the Fedora-wearing skull he had tattooed on his chest, Assistant U.S. Attorney Ariel Neuman said.

The gang is also accused of carrying out acts of violence against police officers, culminating in two attacks that rocked the law enforcement community last year.

The first in February 2008 allegedly saw Avenues gang members opening fire with handguns and an AK-47 on Los Angeles police officers. Police shot back, killing 20-year-old Daniel Leon and injuring another man.

Then on Aug. 2, 2008, off-duty Los Angeles County sheriff's Deputy Juan Escalante was shot dead in front of his parents' home in the Cypress Park neighborhood northeast of downtown.

Even before the killing, authorities were investigating the Avenues, but Escalante's death increased the urgency of the operation. Earlier this year, police charged three men in his death. A fourth suspect remained at large.

Officers in full body armor were seen at dawn Tuesday at a blocked-off staging area at the Dodger Stadium parking lot, where suspects, almost all of them men with shaved heads, were being processed at a portable booking area as media helicopters hovered overhead.

Most appeared calm as they waited to sign paperwork and be placed in a jail van.

The raid was mostly without incident. Two sheriff's deputies shot a pair of aggressive dogs as they entered a house, Beck said, and authorities recovered about 10 guns.

The indictment details several possible motives for Escalante's murder. Carlos Velasquez, one of the men accused of killing the deputy, was allegedly heard in a wiretapped telephone conversation telling another Avenues gang member that he killed Escalante in retribution for the death of Leon, nicknamed "Clever."

"Clever took one with him," the indictment states Velasquez said.

The 222-page indictment also alleges Avenues members posted inflammatory remarks on Web sites, including "Avenidas don't get chased by the cops. We chase them," and, "Avenidas don't just hurt people. We kill them."

City Councilman Ed Reyes said the bust had removed a lethal threat from the streets.

"There are parents today that don't have to run to the bus stop to make sure that their kids don't get jumped because they have an iPod or because they are carrying books or because they have lunch money," Reyes said. "This is the daily terror that gangs like Avenues impose."

Members of the largely Hispanic gang would also spray paint racist threats around neighborhoods to intimidate black people, according to prosecutors.

"This indictment attacks a criminal organization that has terrorized a community for generations," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Christopher Brunwin, the lead prosecutor in the case.

Tuesday's operation marks an ongoing focus on the Avenues gang, which gets its name from a series of streets running through the area.

In June 2008, another federal indictment took aim at the Drew Street clique of the gang. Prosecutors said Drew Street was the most active and violent clique within the Avenues and it produced significant drug-sale revenues for the Mexican Mafia, a prison-based gang that oversees much of Southern California's street gang activity.

That investigation resulted in the arrest of several of the clique's alleged leaders. Afterward, Mexican Mafia leaders attempted to reorganize the Avenues' presence in northeast Los Angeles by ending the clique rivalries within the gang and naming new leaders, Tuesday's indictment states.

By midmorning Tuesday, Drew Street and the blocks immediately around it were quiet, with no obvious sign of the earlier police activity.

Johnny Trujillo, 45, said the area had improved in recent months, though he remained intimidated by some boys who he said are disrespectful of the neighborhood and its residents.

"They write on walls, litter, be loud when you try to get to sleep," Trujillo said.

Another resident, Rosa Mariscal, said the neighborhood is better than in previous years, but she worried about gang members being released early from prison because of the state's cash crunch.

"Sometimes I don't feel safe for my children," she said.

Yzeman
09-22-2009, 06:02 PM
Great news. Things are going to be a little dicey on the streets for a while...please be very careful out there!

AyatollahGondola
09-22-2009, 06:08 PM
I'm happy to see the arrests. Sure hope they all stick, and the convicted get time commensurate with their experience. I also hope the prosecution hopscotches to a lot more arrests for the same investment, 'cause I'll bet the price tag is a whopper on this one.

SB 405
09-22-2009, 07:19 PM
I'd say Deputy Escalante picked up the tab.

emcviper
09-22-2009, 09:29 PM
I watched an episode of Gangland on these guys. All of the gang histories always begin with a group of kids banding together to create "strength in numbers" and be able to survive the streets without joining a gang. Then, over time, each group becomes more and more violent, often ending up worse than the gangs they sought to avoid.

On another note, it's nice when criminals are reminded what they are up against. 1,400+ coming down on this gang. Incredible.

HIPCHIP
09-22-2009, 10:00 PM
I watched an episode of Gangland

On another note, it's nice when criminals are reminded what they are up against. 1,400+ coming down on this gang. Incredible.

I watched an episode of Gangland one night, and I forget the exact number, but it said something like 60K gang members in LA. I figured about 8K for LASD, another 8K for LAPD, and maybe 2K for CHP. Throw in another couple of thousand for the various smaller agencies, and it's something like 20K+ cops in the So Cal area vs. 60K+ gang bangers.

Pretty dang scary, especially when the politicians, the courts, and of course the wacko bleeding heart liberals are against us way too many times!!!

Vinnie
09-22-2009, 11:17 PM
... and maybe 2K for CHP...

Just a hair over 1K, actually, and that's all of Southern Division. We're outnumbered down there, kids. It's nice to have the Allied Agencies on our side, for sure.

HIPCHIP
09-23-2009, 08:24 AM
Just a hair over 1K, actually, and that's all of Southern Division. We're outnumbered down there, kids. It's nice to have the Allied Agencies on our side, for sure.

I wasn't sure, and I was figuring everything from Castaic south, plus east and west, if we needed to call in the calvary. So 2K would be like a best case scenario.

Still scary anyway you look at it. And since it's illegal for honest citizens to have high capacity magazines, "black guns", etc, we don't even have citizen "good guys" that can have the same kind of firepower as the gang-bangers to help out.

AyatollahGondola
09-23-2009, 09:32 AM
I wasn't sure, and I was figuring everything from Castaic south, plus east and west, if we needed to call in the calvary. So 2K would be like a best case scenario.

Still scary anyway you look at it. And since it's illegal for honest citizens to have high capacity magazines, "black guns", etc, we don't even have citizen "good guys" that can have the same kind of firepower as the gang-bangers to help out.
I don't know how helpful that would be without coordinating with them first, and I don't see an effort to do that at present. But,...at least you'd have guns to borrow from them.:smile:

Law enforcement has historically been outnumbered in America. That's why we spend tax money on training each of you to be the worth of ten honest citizens. How'd that song go?
...with the strength of ten
...ordinary men
...CHP....
....only the evil fear them..
...CHP....

G-Man
09-23-2009, 09:43 AM
it's something like 20K+ cops in the So Cal area vs. 60K+ gang bangers.


The good thing is half of that 60K is fighting with the other half. While our 20K works together, despite some small problems which might arise.

HIPCHIP
09-23-2009, 03:19 PM
My dad had a good idea (LAPD retired). Take one knife and stick it in the exact middle of the LA Coliseum, then stick all the gang members in the Coliseum. When they're all done killing themselves, you arrest the last man standing:rolleyes::lol::cool:

quaylie
09-26-2009, 01:27 PM
I also watched the Gangland episode on these guys awhile back. I love hearing about these huge crackdowns. Keep up the hard work good guys!

CTCI08Wife
09-27-2009, 03:53 PM
The unfortunate thing about this is that, like all terrorist groups, there are always "splinter cells". Terrorists breed more terrorists... take one out and there is always another waiting in the wings. Much like this country's "War on Terror", the "War on Gangs" is a never-ending fight... with far too many casualties of the 'Good guys' in both battles.

HIPCHIP
09-28-2009, 09:13 AM
The unfortunate thing about this is that, like all terrorist groups, there are always "splinter cells". Terrorists breed more terrorists... take one out and there is always another waiting in the wings. Much like this country's "War on Terror", the "War on Gangs" is a never-ending fight... with far too many casualties of the 'Good guys' in both battles.


It's hard doing your job with your hands tied. Too many bleeding hearts out there. We had a shooting here where a Latino tried to knife an officer, which resulted in the shooting death of the bad guy. Since he was a Latino, people were coming out of the woodwork accusing the officers, departments, coroners office, and DA's office of corruption and cover-up. Interesting thing is, they dismiss all the evidence showing the BG was a gang banger who was high PLUS the investigation hadn't even been completed and released.

Hard to do your job when they attack you before you've even finished the investigation and they refuse to believe the facts.

AyatollahGondola
09-28-2009, 10:31 AM
It's hard doing your job with your hands tied. Too many bleeding hearts out there. We had a shooting here where a Latino tried to knife an officer, which resulted in the shooting death of the bad guy. Since he was a Latino, people were coming out of the woodwork accusing the officers, departments, coroners office, and DA's office of corruption and cover-up. Interesting thing is, they dismiss all the evidence showing the BG was a gang banger who was high PLUS the investigation hadn't even been completed and released.

Hard to do your job when they attack you before you've even finished the investigation and they refuse to believe the facts. There are two ways I look at that
1) Social engineering is being substituted for blind justice. Unfortunately, they are a somewhat well intentioned bunch of fools. The end result will still not be justice applied equally, punishing the criminal, or making the state any safer.

2) The swinging pendulum effect. If you want people to be more willing to give up more of, or tolerate more losses of their overall rights, you tilt the situation to a point that things get so bad they will lower their threshold for it.
Really, I'm not sure if these are mutually exclusive scenarios.