CHP Motorcade For MJ?

[SB 405]

I heard something on the news this morning about Michael Jackson being transported to Neverland Friday. If the patrol is involved in the motorcade would they hand it off from office to office?

[LadyVol@330]

I heard about that too --sounds like Santa Barbara will get the brunt of it, though. He won't be buried there I don't think, so I suppose traffic control will continue on to somewhere else.

[SB 405]

Not to mention traffic control around the area.:shock:

[SB 405]

Just heard,trip to Neverland canceled.

[jflip2002]

Just heard,trip to Neverland canceled.

Trip to Neverland canceled for the CHP motorcade or the whole memorial? I cant find any information on it. We plan on being there Friday, so I'd hate to drive all the way down for there to be nothing.

[PapaBear]

Accoording to this afternoon's news, the memorial for MJ will be held at a large venue in the greater Los Angeles Area. No other details.

[jflip2002]

Where are you guys finding this? I havent seen anything on CNN.com or TMZ.com. All I know is that there were thousands of pounds of concrete and tons of porta-potties delivered to Neverland yesterday.

[SB 405]

Trip to Neverland canceled for the CHP motorcade or the whole memorial? I cant find any information on it. We plan on being there Friday, so I'd hate to drive all the way down for there to be nothing.

The whole deal is a no go. I don't think the area could handle that many people.

[jflip2002]

Sources? I just want to see something before I cancel all plans of attending Friday. I know there are already people camping out.

[LadyVol@330]

And....... I just heard on the noon news here that the actual memorial service itself will be private, after seeing many shots of all the flowers, etc., arriving at Neverland. Hmmmm. Stay tuned, I guess. :noidea:

[SB 405]

Sources? I just want to see something before I cancel all plans of attending Friday. I know there are already people camping out.

Just the media in general. No official word I suppose. But then I'm not really sure who the official spokesperson is for the MJ camp.

[redhead]

"Contrary to previous news reports, the Jackson family is officially stating that there will be no public or private viewing at Neverland.

Plans are underway regarding a public memorial for Michael Jackson, and we will announce those plans shortly."


(NOT THAT I CARE ONE BIT, JUST SHARING INFORMATION)

[SB 405]

I feel sorry for the people who live in the neighborhoods where the media is camped out day and night. I speak from experience....Remember when Robert Blake was arrested? My Mom's home is in that same neighborhood about three blocks from the Blake home. Not only was traffic a major pain in the arse for weeks but some media crews were using peoples yards as bathrooms. This along with trash and generators running til all hours of the night created a major issue. A whole lot goes on at these locations most people don't think about.

[gabriel]

I hear the area around neverland is two-lane--1 each direction. There's no way something like that could handle that amount of traffic.

[Eagl5]

Everybody just needs to BEAT IT. I mean that amount of traffic would be a THRILLER, but who can SAY SAY SAY what the traffic would be like other then BAD.

[quaylie]

Everybody just needs to BEAT IT. I mean that amount of traffic would be a THRILLER, but who can SAY SAY SAY what the traffic would be like other then BAD.

Aren't you just a P.Y.T.? :lol:

[SB 405]

Funeral is Tuesday at Staples Center. Good luck to the folks at Central.

[G-Man]

Wonder if there will be people scalping tickets...:think:

[PapaBear]

No arrangements have been settled and made public as of yet!!!

Reuters
Thursday, July 2, 2009; 9:12 AM

Michael Jackson's will sets family trust, funeral sketchy

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A will signed by Michael Jackson putting his multimillion-dollar estate in a trust for his children and mother was filed in court on Wednesday, as details of his highly-anticipated funeral remained sketchy. Some media outlets reported a memorial service would take place this coming Tuesday at Los Angeles' Staples Center arena and others pointed to the city's Coliseum sports stadium, but a spokesman for Jackson's family could not confirm those reports nor could officials with the venues.

[23112]

Everybody just needs to BEAT IT. I mean that amount of traffic would be a THRILLER, but who can SAY SAY SAY what the traffic would be like other then BAD.

Best post in this thread!

[SB 405]

IT'S ON.....10am Tuesday per Jermaine Jackson

[23112]

Southern Division MFF is on stand-by.

[Jeff Rhea]

Everybody just needs to BEAT IT. I mean that amount of traffic would be a THRILLER, but who can SAY SAY SAY what the traffic would be like other then BAD.

I wonder if Billy Jean will offer a eulogy? Maybe Ben will be there too!

[gabriel]

I wonder if Billy Jean will offer a eulogy? Maybe Ben will be there too!

Good to see you around again, Sir. The nightmares caused by that avatar were starting to subside. :biggrin:

[CTCI08Wife]

Good to see you around again, Sir. The nightmares caused by that avatar were starting to subside. :biggrin:

Oh, come now. The LT's baby picture isn't too frightening; I'm sure even his Momma thought he was "cute"!

[CHPwhyf]

Everybody just needs to BEAT IT. I mean that amount of traffic would be a THRILLER, but who can SAY SAY SAY what the traffic would be like other then BAD.

that is absolutely hysterical...I love it:lol:

[Jeff Rhea]

Mmmwaahahahah!!!! :lol:

I like my baby picture! But its the Man in the Mirror that looks really good these days! :biggrin: And yes, my mother loved me. She used to tell me "You are not alone. I am here with you." She also said "The thing about my baby is it don't matter if you're Black or White." :wink: She is the reason I did not become a Smooth Criminal.

Sooo...I see there is a court battle brewing over Blanket, but not Chaz. What's up with that?

[mikekristine455]

The latest info from www.officer.com (http://www.officer.com)


The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) plans a "massive deployment" of officers for Michael Jackson's memorial next Tuesday morning, it was reported on Friday.
The local KFI radio, citing unnamed sources within the LAPD, reported that more than 1,400 officers -- two shifts of at least 30 officers plus three supervisors from each of the department's 25 patrol stations -- have been asked to volunteer for duty Monday and Tuesday related to the Jackson memorial service at Los Angeles Staples Center.
But the LAPD refused to give details. "We never give out statistics" on staffing plans, said Officer Norma Eisenman of the LAPD's Media Relations office, when asked for comment.
Officers at several stations and a senior department official told KFI that such a massive deployment usually takes weeks or months to organize, but will have to be in place within a few days, and could leave the department temporarily "stretched to dangerously low levels."
The station's sources also said that all training classes had been canceled for the two days and every sworn officer, including plainclothes detectives, had been ordered to report in uniform for possible assignment to crowd-control duties.
KFI reported that officers will be paid overtime for the duty.
The department did not reveal how much money the deployment will cost, but Councilwoman Jan Perry noted that funds for special events is built into the LAPD's budget.
She said the city will access a special fund set aside for extraordinary events to pay for the security costs associated with the memorial tribute.
"It's not the first, nor will it be the last time our police department is called upon to make and execute the necessary plans for special events of this magnitude," Perry said.
Organizers of the memorial tribute announced that only those who receive the 17,000 free tickets to attend the memorial at Staples Center and the Nokia Theatre will be allowed into the area, which will be cordoned off by police.
There will be a "hard closure," meaning no one without a ticket and wristband will be allowed into the area of Flower Street to the east, Olympic Boulevard to the north, Pico Boulevard to the South and Blaine Street to the West, said LAPD Assistant Chief Earl Paysinger.
Jackson, 50, was pronounced dead June 25 at Ronald Reagan Medical Center at the University of California in Los Angeles, about two hours after he collapsed at his rented Holmby Hills estate.
Jackson was in Los Angeles rehearsing for 50 sold-out concerts in London.
It was unclear where Jackson would be buried, although reports resurfaced Thursday that the singer would be buried at Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills.
There was also a lingering question about who would be footing the bill for the memorial service.

[Jeff Rhea]

Okay,

I've given in to popular demand and removed my baby picture. Enjoy! :biggrin:

(and No!, I'm not the one wearing the dress.)

[gabriel]

Okay,

I've given in to popular demand and removed my baby picture. Enjoy! :biggrin:

(and No!, I'm not the one wearing the dress.)

lol very nice, sir, very nice. I'm sure it'll come back at some point.. until then I will go get some rest.

Cheers! :biggrin::lol:

[SB 405]

CHP leading motrocade as I write this.

[Jeff Rhea]

Gabriel,

If you're a poolee, you're going to need PT, not rest! You'll get your manditory 8 hours soon enough. :lol:

I hear 1.5 million people have asked for tickets to the funeral ceremony. I know he was a popular ENTERTAINER but 1.5 million...

Wouldn't it be nice if 1.5 million people ever showed up along the procession route of an officer killed in the line of duty? I've been to a few LE funerals and it is truely heart warming to see people lining the streets and over passes waving flags; but I'm sure they only added up to a few thousand. And the beat goes on...

[RodeoChippie]

CHP leading motrocade as I write this.
I damn sure hope we're getting reimbursed for those services. If not, I call BS on that!

[SB 405]

I damn sure hope we're getting reimbursed for those services. If not, I call BS on that!


From what I could see it looked like four motors,two Crown Vic's and an Expedition.

[emcviper]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef011571d45140970b-pi

It looks like at least 8 motors and 3 CVPIs. I also saw an expedition in an E! video.

[playin in traffic]

It looks like at least 8 motors and 3 CVPIs. I also saw an expedition in an E! video.


It was slightly more than 8 motors and 3 cars. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 motors plus CVs and the SUV. I was on the black and white motor with the pretty lights. Not to mention the multitude of additional CHP units from the surrounding areas assisting with traffic control on the freeways and such.

[quaylie]

Were the motors from one office or were they from all over Southern California? I counted somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 CHP motors when they were pulling into Forest Lawn coming from the Jackson family home. It was awesome to see.

[RodeoChippie]

It was slightly more than 8 motors and 3 cars. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 motors plus CVs and the SUV. I was on the black and white motor with the pretty lights. Not to mention the multitude of additional CHP units from the surrounding areas assisting with traffic control on the freeways and such.

What a huge waste of resources during a multi million dollar budget crisis:confused:

[Vinnie]

I wouldn't call it a waste- it's not like it was a real motorcade. It's more like a Protective Services Detail, eh? I mean, imagine if all the nutjobs from all over the world who descended on LA for this spectacle went unmanaged. If they tried to run this like any other Joe's funeral, we'd see another month-long riot (my guess only- I've lost faith in humanity, apparently). For a public spectacle that big and that potentially nutty, they needed every Uniform that was there- I just hope the Estate is reimbursing the involved Departments.

The CHP has always been about Public Safety first, and figuring out the dollar signs later. Not all that surprising.

[jflip2002]

Beautiful ceremony this morning. The Jackson fans were very well behaved, which was great to see; there were no events stealing the spotlight from where it should have been. I am imagining that the City of Los Angeles will be eating the bill on the officers, along with the venue. This is after I heard that the mayor of Los Angeles was asking for "donations" regarding the ceremony. I'm still a little disappointed it didn't take place at NeverLand, though. I would have loved to have attended.

[e36geoff]

I wouldn't call it a waste- it's not like it was a real motorcade. It's more like a Protective Services Detail, eh? I mean, imagine if all the nutjobs from all over the world who descended on LA for this spectacle went unmanaged. If they tried to run this like any other Joe's funeral, we'd see another month-long riot (my guess only- I've lost faith in humanity, apparently). For a public spectacle that big and that potentially nutty, they needed every Uniform that was there- I just hope the Estate is reimbursing the involved Departments.

The CHP has always been about Public Safety first, and figuring out the dollar signs later. Not all that surprising.

This is not an attempt to start a debate...

I do agree that his estate should donate some money to the agencies involved in the service as well as the city (or whoever ended up footing the bill at the Staples Center). However, even if anyone is not reimbursed it would not be the end of the world. The man only sold how many million copies of his albums, many of which were bought in California over his 40 year career. Of course sales tax was collected on every record, eight track, tape, and CD that was sold. I'm sure that just because of him a few state employees had their paychecks funded over the years. A week of increased patrols around his home, the Staples Center, etc... is fair for the amount of revenue the man generated for the state in his lifetime.

Either way, it was a nice surprise to see CHP leading the motorcade when I turned on the coverage of the event this morning. RIP Michael.

[LadyVol@330]

I wouldn't call it a waste- it's not like it was a real motorcade. It's more like a Protective Services Detail, eh? I mean, imagine if all the nutjobs from all over the world who descended on LA for this spectacle went unmanaged. If they tried to run this like any other Joe's funeral, we'd see another month-long riot (my guess only- I've lost faith in humanity, apparently). For a public spectacle that big and that potentially nutty, they needed every Uniform that was there- I just hope the Estate is reimbursing the involved Departments.

The CHP has always been about Public Safety first, and figuring out the dollar signs later. Not all that surprising.

Well stated.

[LadyVol@330]

Beautiful ceremony this morning. The Jackson fans were very well behaved, which was great to see; there were no events stealing the spotlight from where it should have been. I am imagining that the City of Los Angeles will be eating the bill on the officers, along with the venue. This is after I heard that the mayor of Los Angeles was asking for "donations" regarding the ceremony. I'm still a little disappointed it didn't take place at NeverLand, though. I would have loved to have attended.

From what I heard of Michael's opinion of Neverland after it was "invaded" and searched, he did not want to go back there again. All the happy times were in the past, and the main house vacant, and wasn't it put on the market a while back? Over 3,000 acres on that ranch and many beautiful spots other than just the main house and surrounding gardens. How sad it turned out to be after the fun and laughter. Even with all the bizarre things we have all read and heard, he was one of a kind in the talent department. His choreographer went to the same high school as my son (much earlier), and I bowl with his mom. He and another man were in charge of the memorial service details today, and he was the main man in all the High School Musical movies, among others.

Back to Michael. I heard today that Elvis' estate generated much more money than he had before he died, mainly because of Graceland, but Michael's music will be a big smash again for awhile and a lot of money will be generated there again. Wonder what else will be turned into earnings? Hopefully, the CHP won't need to be called on again soon for something like this, but they did the usual dignified show of professionalism. Something to be very proud of.

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/CSP/CSP037/k0376169.jpg

[Vinnie]

...I'm still a little disappointed it didn't take place at NeverLand, though. I would have loved to have attended...

Sorry- we've re-reviewed your Psych Eval, and you won't be invited to continue the process. :cry:

:badgrin:

[gabriel]

Gabriel,

If you're a poolee, you're going to need PT, not rest! You'll get your manditory 8 hours soon enough. :lol:


Aye, aye, Sir. :lol:

[Bradley]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef011571d45140970b-pi

It looks like at least 8 motors and 3 CVPIs. I also saw an expedition in an E! video.

Thats a very interesting photo .. thanks for sharing.

In the middle of the frame .. that white F150(?) .. is that a K9 transport, with that little ramp down like that?

[dw]

Did anyone see the clip -- I think it was Matt Lauer -- touring MJ's bedroom in Neverland? (I actually saw it replayed on the Colbert Report.) He had a hidden section off his closet locked by three deadbolts. Yeah, that's normal.

At best -- from actions he admitted to -- he was a pervert. At worst, well....

Glad there were no riots or other disturbances, but really.... The tab is now approaching $4 million.

[CHIPY55]

Glad there were no riots or other disturbances, but really.... The tab is now approaching $4 million.
Then again..there were some really dumb calls made to add up that cost. Such as spending 48K in tax payers dollars in feeding LAPD officers 80 miles away in Wrightwood. :doh:

[icepack]

Then again..there were some really dumb calls made to add up that cost. Such as spending 48K in tax payers dollars in feeding LAPD officers 80 miles away in Wrightwood. :doh:[/QUOTE]

I heard about this as well on KFI. SUBWAY vs Jensens in the mountains. I am all about feeding those that serve, but WOW, $50k in food that was not even an emergency. Bill that as well to the Jackson Five! :hitwall:

[jflip2002]

Did anyone see the clip -- I think it was Matt Lauer -- touring MJ's bedroom in Neverland? (I actually saw it replayed on the Colbert Report.) He had a hidden section off his closet locked by three deadbolts. Yeah, that's normal.

At best -- from actions he admitted to -- he was a pervert. At worst, well....

Glad there were no riots or other disturbances, but really.... The tab is now approaching $4 million.

The room was a safe room, in case there was ever a need for it, like a home invasion. It's irresponsible to jump to the conclusion that he automatically is a "pervert at best". If he was such a pervert, certainly there would have been SOME sort of incriminating evidence when his home in Los Olivos was raided, right? But wait... nothing was ever found.

Just because people assumed he was a pedophile, pervert, weird, etc, doesnt make it true. The man loved children,and I personally feel it was innocent. Id love to see a figure of how many disadvantaged children he brought to his ranch, and gave them the time of a life, a time they normally wouldnt be able to afford. Should he have slept with children in the same bedroom? Well no, he shouldnt have, from a PR standpoint. But then again, if he was such a pedophile, he wouldnt have openly admitted to such events. If he was such a pedophile, wouldnt there been more alleged victims?

Lets not mention the first family sued a large retail store for injuring them, while being apprehended by a security guard. Or that the second family called the lawyer of the first family that settled for the multi million dollar settlement before calling the authorities. Let's not question their credibility, because that'd take away from the "juicy" negative news. People are money hungry, and will sue for anything.

If I had millions of dollars, and lived a good 30-45 minutes from the authorities if I ever encountered an emergency, would I also have a safe room? Most certainly. But also, would I have let me kids sleep over at his, or ANY grown man's house? No way. After the first case, a responsible parent would not let their kids anywhere near a POTENTIAL risk of their child being harmed. Even the slightest chance is more than I would be willing to take with my child. So either the parents of these alleged victims are irresponsible, money hungry, or both (Im going with both).

Its funny that people in this thread have steered away from voicing their personal feelings and opinions on the matter.... EXCEPT FOR AN ADMINISTRATOR. So I hope since you want to voice your opinion, which you are entitled to, that you will let me voice mine.

[dw]

It's irresponsible to jump to the conclusion that he automatically is a "pervert at best". If he was such a pervert, certainly there would have been SOME sort of incriminating evidence when his home in Los Olivos was raided, right?

....

Just because people assumed he was a pedophile, pervert, weird, etc, doesnt make it true. .....Should he have slept with children in the same bedroom? Well no, he shouldnt have, from a PR standpoint. But then again, if he was such a pedophile, he wouldnt have openly admitted to such events. If he was such a pedophile, wouldnt there been more alleged victims?

....

So I hope since you want to voice your opinion, which you are entitled to, that you will let me voice mine.FYI, we're in agreement. I was not basing my statement on the room, I based it (the pervert one) on his admitted activities with young boys. Which you agree took place. In my book that is perverted behavior. You agree he shouldn't have done so, although you cite PR and not morals; I cite morals.

And I hate to break it to you, but psychotics (used as a clinical term) often behave irrationally. That he openly admitted his perverted behavior means little to me in terms of the other allegations. Are the other allegations loose? Of course; that's why I used a best-case/worse-case analogy.

Anyway.... Why would you insinuate that I would censor your opinion because it differs from mine? :noidea:

[SB 405]

"Anyway.... Why would you insinuate that I would censor your opinion because it differs from mine?" :noidea:

Because you're "the man" man. And it's the man that is always keeping us down.:biggrin:

Get it man?

[jflip2002]

FYI, we're in agreement. I was not basing my statement on the room, I based it (the pervert one) on his admitted activities with young boys. Which you agree took place. In my book that is perverted behavior. You agree he shouldn't have done so, although you cite PR and not morals; I cite morals.

And I hate to break it to you, but psychotics (used as a clinical term) often behave irrationally. That he openly admitted his perverted behavior means little to me in terms of the other allegations. Are the other allegations loose? Of course; that's why I used a best-case/worse-case analogy.

Anyway.... Why would you insinuate that I would censor your opinion because it differs from mine? :noidea:

The difference is I do not believe his actions were perverted, or had any ill intentions, sir. My reasoning behind not allowing my children to sleep at his house, is the simple fact that there is at least the slightest chance something can go wrong. I would not let my children sleep in his room, in my fathers room, in the pope's room, in ANY other man's room. It didnt reflect what I believe occurred.

You say you may not have based your pervert label on him due to his "secret room" also known as a "safe room". That is the only relevance of it being posted in your previous post, IMO. Just look at the post, it was short, without much detail. So it tends to come off that way, without your explanation you just gave.

Im not offended or taking any of this to heart, I am just throwing this out there. I was also just throwing the censorship thing out there in hopes that it wasnt censored. ;)

[23112]

You say you may not have based your pervert label on him due to his "secret room" also known as a "safe room". That is the only relevance of it being posted in your previous post, IMO.

I think DW was just saying that a secret room of the closet, at first hearing, sounds a little freakish (i.e., it isn't exactly normal for folks to have hidden rooms--though your explanation made sense, and I certainly want a panic room in my house...but not for entertaining the neighborhood kids).

With or without the closet, and whether Jackson did or didn't molest anyone, I think he was one of the freakiest freaks in all of freakdom. I didn't know him, but from what he projected to the outside world, the guy was just weird. Of course, I think most people are nuts. But not as nuts at Jacko.

[jflip2002]

I think DW was just saying that a secret room of the closet, at first hearing, sounds a little freakish (i.e., it isn't exactly normal for folks to have hidden rooms--though your explanation made sense, and I certainly want a panic room in my house...but not for entertaining the neighborhood kids).

With or without the closet, and whether Jackson did or didn't molest anyone, I think he was one of the freakiest freaks in all of freakdom. I didn't know him, but from what he projected to the outside world, the guy was just weird. Of course, I think most people are nuts. But not as nuts at Jacko.

I think it is very safe to say that he seemed a little loopy. Whether his intentions were ill or not (I dont believe they were), he had some issues, as many people do. I think the difference is he was the greatest entertainer ever, meaning he was under the brightest spotlight and largest magnifying glass. So we tend to focus on his faults, and successes for that matter, a little more.

[LadyVol@330]

FWIW, I tried to understand what happened to him after his horrible childhood that never was, the beatings from his father, etc. Rewatching the documentary done on a one-to-one with him from 2003, I believe, his flat out saying that the only surgery he had had was one for the nose told me that he lied directly to the face of the interviewer. He was questioned about the chin dimple, his lips, and his explanation was that people's faces change with aging. That alone should have made his own nose grow longer! No wonder he kept that one doctor around for so long. A dermatologist, I believe?

I have a lot more I would like to say, but this is not the place for it. May he rest in peace and the right determination be made for the futures of his children.

[highwaybs]

Okay,

I've given in to popular demand and removed my baby picture. Enjoy! :biggrin:

(and No!, I'm not the one wearing the dress.)

Perhaps you should put gold bars on the collar....