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AyatollahGondola
06-18-2009, 04:25 PM
Anyone know if there is any part of the cal trans or dot website, or anywhere else for that matter, where they display the different car pool lane requirements for the state?
I kind of looked, but maybe I'm not hunting in the right field or with the right equipment
14596
06-18-2009, 04:49 PM
http://www.dot.ca.gov look up under each geographical district. Below links are for district 7.
http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist07/resources/hov/docs/HOV%20Map%20LA%20County.pdf
http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist07/resources/hov/docs/HOV%20Map%20Interregional.pdf
AyatollahGondola
06-18-2009, 05:00 PM
Thanks,
Not quite what I was hunting for, but working that way. I was looking for the detail that shows times, minimum # of persons
PapaBear
06-19-2009, 04:40 AM
If memory serves me correctly, and I may be mistaken (Sergeants are never wrong), most areas, if not all, that have car pool lanes have done away with the time frames. The car pool lanes are car pool lanes 24/7/365. There used to be a time frame but it was too confusing for motorists (and officers) that they were eliminated. On ramps that have car pool lanes are generally only in effect when the signals are activated; and there are signs that indicate that fact.
Bradley
06-19-2009, 06:48 AM
He might mean the occupancy limit?... Some of the freeways around LA require 3 occupants during peak hours, and 2 all other times. (I10 through DTLA for example)
I think this (http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/systemops/hov/HOVInvNov2008.xls) may be what you are looking for. It shows the county, section of county, highway, length, opening date, hours of op, number of occupants required, etc... Look under the "Existing" tab.
AyatollahGondola
06-19-2009, 07:48 AM
Yes Mom,
Precisely what I wanted!
Every traffic prosecutor should have a copy of this at hand in court for those HOV lane tickees.
Thanks Mom.
Bradley
06-19-2009, 07:58 AM
Thats a very cool spread sheet - thanks for sharing!
Edit: On a similar note - is there anywhere to look up the speed limit of a particular street/roadway? short of searching for where the speed control signs are, of course.
If memory serves me correctly, and I may be mistaken (Sergeants are never wrong), most areas, if not all, that have car pool lanes have done away with the time frames. The car pool lanes are car pool lanes 24/7/365. There used to be a time frame but it was too confusing for motorists (and officers) that they were eliminated. On ramps that have car pool lanes are generally only in effect when the signals are activated; and there are signs that indicate that fact.In the Bay Area I can not think of a single 24/7 HOV lane, they're all commute hours only.
rumbero36
06-19-2009, 11:10 PM
In the Bay Area I can not think of a single 24/7 HOV lane, they're all commute hours only.3:30 to 19:00hrs in the bay area.
3:30 to 19:00hrs in the bay area.They may need to update the info at DOT as they are showing the Bay Area HOVs 5am-10am and 3pm-7pm for almost all.
alexfarrington
06-20-2009, 09:59 AM
Pay attention to those hours on the lanes that aren't 24/7, and if you don't see hours posted, it's safe to assume that the lanes are 24/7.
Not doing that is a great way to earn the opportunity to make a compulsory $381 donation to your friendly county courthouse...
They may need to update the info at DOT as they are showing the Bay Area HOVs 5am-10am and 3pm-7pm for almost all.Oh, Snap! :wink:
CAHPDist2X
06-20-2009, 04:08 PM
In the Bay Area I can not think of a single 24/7 HOV lane, they're all commute hours only.
I think the difference is in the way the lanes are constructed. In the bay area the lanes are just a lane to the left with no real difference. In LA they are often a separate part of the freeway with an actual physical divider.
Car pool on the bridges are 3 people so any lane leading to a bridge is three and the others are two.
CAHPDist2X
06-20-2009, 04:11 PM
Originally, the idea was to get cars off the road and reduce traffic. Now the bridge authority says that toll revenues are down so they want to charge car poolers too.
:doh: :noidea: :hitwall: all in one.
AyatollahGondola
06-20-2009, 10:24 PM
Originally, the idea was to get cars off the road and reduce traffic. Now the bridge authority says that toll revenues are down so they want to charge car poolers too.
:doh: :noidea: :hitwall: all in one.
I must have missed this. There's something in the works to charge the carpool'ers? I haven't seen any legislation on this, but maybe none is required? Can the governor just sign an executive order for something like this?
CAHPDist2X
06-21-2009, 08:32 AM
I saw one news story and that was it. I don't know who decides how they do their tolls. Part of our problem is that we have these "boards" who wield tremendous power yet are not elected and consist of unknowns. Don't get me started about the chimney police.:evil:
The story said "they" were looking at a lesser toll for car poolers because of reduced traffic in the regular lanes.
Found the story:
http://www.ktvu.com/news/19721173/detail.html
AyatollahGondola
06-21-2009, 09:02 AM
I saw one news story and that was it. I don't know who decides how they do their tolls. Part of our problem is that we have these "boards" who wield tremendous power yet are not elected and consist of unknowns. Don't get me started about the chimney police.:evil:
The story said "they" were looking at a lesser toll for car poolers because of reduced traffic in the regular lanes.
Found the story:
http://www.ktvu.com/news/19721173/detail.html
(Whew!) Had me worried there. You gotta be careful when you post commentary like that. I scare easily.
Don't get me started about the chimney police.:evil:
:badgrin:
We have them here too. Consider this: If they can meter the water coming in, it's not that big of a hop to meter the exhaust going out.:biggrin:
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