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Fire1
03-01-2009, 04:33 PM
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009

To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.

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Short: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 as introduced.
Official: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes. as introduced.

1/6/2009--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.
Prohibits:
(1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions;
(2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act;
(3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours;
(4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or
(5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to:
(1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse;
(2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and
(3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.



Full text http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

AyatollahGondola
03-01-2009, 04:45 PM
I don't like this part at all:



Amendment to Title 18, United States Code- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following
‘(36) The term ‘qualifying firearm’






‘(A) means‘(i) any handgun; or

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‘(ii) any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device; and
‘(B) does not include any antique.





I thought this was going to apply to full autos or something. I hope this doesn't get anywhere.

CWMellow
03-03-2009, 07:20 AM
And so it begins.....................

AyatollahGondola
03-03-2009, 07:39 AM
And so it begins.....................

Maybe; One of the things that is common in politics is a decoy operation. A bill very controversial or engaging is forwarded for everyone to attack or defend while another bill with something more rewarding for special interests slinks through with less fanfare. I know this anti gun agenda has been gaining ground for years, but I'm just saying to keep your eyes and ears open for other issues.

AyatollahGondola
03-03-2009, 11:12 AM
At least three gun bills have been introduced in the California assembly lately too. One with further restrictions on ammo sales, another to extend the distance of a school zone in 626.9, and yet another to add to the list of search warrant issuance. The last one is quite ambiguous in scope because it deals with a persons mental condition, and that of course is determined by mental health professionals.

BILL NUMBER: AB 962 INTRODUCED
BILL TEXT


INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member De Leon
(Coauthor: Assembly Member Bonnie Lowenthal)

FEBRUARY 26, 2009

An act to amend Sections 11106 and 12316 of, to add Sections 12317
and 12318 to, to add Article 3.5 (commencing with Section 12060) to
Chapter 1 of, to add a heading for Chapter 2.6 (commencing with
Section 12316) to, and to repeal the heading of Chapter 2.6
(commencing with Section 12320) of, Title 2 of Part 4 of the Penal
Code, relating to ammunition.



LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 962, as introduced, De Leon. Ammunition.
Existing law requires the Department of Justice to maintain
records pertaining to firearms transactions.
This bill would require the department to maintain additional
information relating to ammunition transfers and licensed handgun
ammunition vendors, as specified.
Existing law generally regulates the sale of ammunition.
This bill would establish a program administered by the Department
of Justice for licensing handgun ammunition vendors, as specified.
The bill would establish a database maintained by the department
to serve as a registry of handgun ammunition vendors.
This bill would require that commencing July 1, 2010, unless
specifically excluded, no person shall sell or transfer more than 50
rounds of handgun ammunition in any month unless he or she is
registered as a handgun ammunition vendor, as defined. The bill would
also require these vendors to obtain a background clearance for
those employees who would handle ammunition in the course and scope
of their employment. The bill would require the Department of Justice
to maintain a registry of registered handgun ammunition vendors, as
specified. Violation of these provisions, as specified, would be a
misdemeanor.
By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated
local program.
The bill would also provide that no retail seller of ammunition
shall sell, offer for sale, or display for sale, any handgun
ammunition in a manner that allows that ammunition to be accessible
to a purchaser without the assistance of the retailer or employee
thereof.
The bill would further provide that handgun ammunition may only be
purchased in a face-to-face transaction and only if certain
conditions exist.
Existing law generally regulates what information is required to
be obtained in connection with the transfer of ammunition.
This bill would, subject to exceptions, commencing July 1, 2010,
require certain ammunition vendors to obtain a thumbprint and other
information from ammunition purchasers, and would require submission
of that information to the Department of Justice, as specified. A
violation of these provisions would be a misdemeanor.
This bill would provide that a person enjoined from engaging in
activity associated with a criminal street gang, as specified, would
be prohibited from having under his or her possession, custody, or
control, any ammunition. Violation of these provisions would be a
misdemeanor.
The bill would prohibit supplying or delivering, as specified,
handgun ammunition to prohibited persons, as described, by persons or
others who know or by using reasonable care should know that the
recipient is a person prohibited from possessing ammunition.
Violation of these provisions is a misdemeanor with specified
penalties.
By creating new crimes, this bill would impose a state-mandated
local program.
The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local
agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this
act for a specified reason.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: yes.





BILL NUMBER: AB 668 INTRODUCED
BILL TEXT


INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Lieu

FEBRUARY 25, 2009

An act to amend Section 626.9 of the Penal Code, relating to
firearms.



LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 668, as introduced, Lieu. Firearms: gun-free school zones.
Existing law, subject to exceptions, provides that it is an
offense for any person who possesses a firearm in a place that the
person knows, or reasonably should know, is a school zone, unless it
is with the written permission of the school district superintendent,
his or her designee, or equivalent school authority. Existing law
defines "school zone" for these purposes as an area in, or on the
grounds of, a public or private school providing instruction in
kindergarten or grades 1 to 12, inclusive, or within a distance of
1,000 feet from the grounds of the public or private school.
This bill would extend that distance to 1,500 feet from the
grounds of the public or private school.
By expanding the scope of an existing offense, this bill would
impose a state-mandated local program.
The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local
agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this
act for a specified reason.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: yes.






BILL NUMBER: AB 532 INTRODUCED
BILL TEXT


INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Lieu

FEBRUARY 25, 2009

An act to amend Section 1524 of the Penal Code, relating to search
warrants.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 532, as introduced, Lieu. Search warrants: firearms.
Existing law establishes various grounds for the issuance of a
search warrant.
This bill would additionally authorize issuance of a search
warrant when the property or things to be seized include a firearm or
any other deadly weapon that is owned by, or in the possession of,
or in the custody or control of, a person who has been detained or
apprehended for examination of his or her mental condition, as
specified. The bill would also authorize issuance of a search warrant
when the property or things to be seized include a firearm or any
other deadly weapon at the scene of a domestic violence incident
involving a threat to human life or a physical assault, as specified.

The bill would also state the intent of the Legislature in
enacting the measure.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no.
State-mandated local program: no.

CWMellow
03-03-2009, 02:51 PM
Very true, they (law makers) have been known to do that from the begining of time and will continue. All law makers are bad, both red and blue.

I was speaking to someone a few years ago when I first started to really get into guns and figured ammo would get new attention in coming years. Now with lead ammo off limits where a condor may live, all of the micro stamping talk, and now the things you bring forth now just go to show that the gun lobby is strong and the law makers are going to play dirty. They have also learned a lotafter the old "Assault Weapons" ban lifted. I was watching the news just last night and the president of Mexico was pointing his finger at the US for the import of "assault weapons" into mexico, yet it isnt their problem when they import to the US vast amounts of illegal drugs. Just gives law makers more "ammunition" to use against those who use "Assault Weapons" for sport.

I dont think that there will ever be a total ban on firearms, but they are going to make it so stinking difficult for the average joe to have a firearm with ammunition that he/she can go and plink with. The dirt bags with guns are the ones that are killing people, and they dont care what the laws say to begin with. They are the ones that are using stolen guns and ammunition unlawfully taken from overall good people to commit their crimes. If more people had firearms there would be less crime against the innocent because the dirt bags will have something to fear; because they sure dont fear the court system

"If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" Unknown

ok i'm done, off my soap box... just going to sit back, drink a cold one and watch:popcorn:

AyatollahGondola
03-03-2009, 03:52 PM
I was at the press conference that Nava held when Lead ammo ban became law. I told him that since this was California, I planned on using golden bullets from now on, and he said that was still unlawful, as any bullets had to be on the approved list. So it wasn't just about banning lead for the protection of condors you see:wink:

I find it a little hard to believe that the US is mexicos biggest problem when it comes to weapons supply. You have some of the biggest drug syndicates there that have access to world markets where fully automatics are available. But, I'm willing to help our southern neighbor out by securing our borders against illegal traffic.

Reader
03-03-2009, 11:50 PM
The dirt bags with guns are the ones that are killing people, and they dont care what the laws say to begin with. They are the ones that are using stolen guns and ammunition unlawfully taken from overall good people to commit their crimes. If more people had firearms there would be less crime against the innocent because the dirt bags will have something to fear; because they sure dont fear the court system

"If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" Unknown
:popcorn:

My Grandpa taught me that one.....my uncle had a sign in front of his house that said " This house guarded by shotgun three nights a week...you guess which three."

IMHO the problem is "city people" who don't grow up around guns.
Every summer vacation as a kid, I would sleep on the bed my Grandpa kept his guns under......and I KNEW not to touch them:biggrin:, or I would be getting my own switch....:shock::sad: