Officer Classification

[amir0727]

Are CHP Officers considered "State Employees" per say or do you guys fall under a certain special category? What I'm getting at is, since you guys are under PERS and so are pretty much all other state employees, are you guys allowed to transfer over your years of service to other state agencies (i.e. say you went to work for Caltrans after 5 years of being with the CHP) or vise versa? Also are officers eligible to do a lateral transfer if desired to work for another agency?

I'm hoping my lack of work experience balances out with my educational background (in regards to my QAP score) but in the event it doesn't, I was considering applying for a state job and in the future if and when I do reapply to the CHP, I wanted to know if my service would transfer over.

[G-Man]

Are CHP Officers considered "State Employees" per say or do you guys fall under a certain special category? What I'm getting at is, since you guys are under PERS and so are pretty much all other state employees, are you guys allowed to transfer over your years of service to other state agencies (i.e. say you went to work for Caltrans after 5 years of being with the CHP) or vise versa? Also are officers eligible to do a lateral transfer if desired to work for another agency?

I'm hoping my lack of work experience balances out with my educational background (in regards to my QAP score) but in the event it doesn't, I was considering applying for a state job and in the future if and when I do reapply to the CHP, I wanted to know if my service would transfer over.

Yes, retirement, vacation time, and sick time follows you.

[23112]

(i.e. say you went to work for Caltrans after 5 years of being with the CHP)

I think one would have to be 11550 to go from the CHP to work for Caltrans. In fact, I think that's a pre-requisite. :lol:

[amir0727]

I think one would have to be 11550 to go from the CHP to work for Caltrans. In fact, I think that's a pre-requisite. :lol:

Just curious, does classifying someone as an '11550' imply he/she has a few bolts loose upstairs?

[23112]

Just curious, does classifying someone as an '11550' imply he/she has a few bolts loose upstairs?

You're thinking of 5150.

11550 is a reference to the Health and Safety Code: 11550. (a) No person shall use, or be under the influence of any controlled substance...

[amir0727]

You're thinking of 5150.

11550 is a reference to the Health and Safety Code: 11550. (a) No person shall use, or be under the influence of any controlled substance...

You learn something new everyday. :biggrin:

[CAHPDist2X]

The transfer of PERS time goes at the rate it was accrued. So if someone has ten years of caltrans time at 2% and joins CHP, the time remains at 2%. An additional 20 years will get you 60% CHP time and 20% CalTrans time for a total of 80%.

[HIPCHIP]

If you are a state employee you can lateral from one state agency to another, but you still have to meet all qualifications, I.E. if you worked Caltrans and wanted to be CHP you still have to take all the tests and pass the academy. If you wanted to go from CHP to Caltrans then you would have to qualify for the Caltrans position. You could also go from something like CHP to state park ranger, which is a peace officer position, but would still have to meet their requirements.

Basically, being a state employee just gets your foot in the door better than a non employee.

[dw]

And lateraling to another law enforcement agency is based on the requirements of that particular agency.

[amir0727]

And lateraling to another law enforcement agency is based on the requirements of that particular agency.

Now that you brought it up, do you guys generally see more CHP officers transferring out to other agencies or is it the other way around?

One of the reasons why I'm asking is because (I swear I'm not making this up) a few months ago, I went on a ride along with a local law enforcement agency and while we were all sitting at the dinner table, one of the officers brought up the question as to why I wanted to join the CHP. According to him, he sees the lazier officers in his department go for the CHP because as he said: "CHP stands for Can't Handle Policework". Without wanting to risk a potential riot between agencies, I'm not going to disclose the agency. :smile:

BUT on a side note, I stood up for the CHP and handled it. We even got into a scuffle outside over it (ok, well, maybe not that far :biggrin:).

He was joking of course...or was he? jk jk jk, don't shoot.

[EDIT: It was the other way around]

[dw]

According to him, he sees the lazier officers in his department go for the CHP because as he said: "CHP stands for Can't Handle Policework". Without wanting to risk a potential riot between agencies, I'm not going to disclose the agency. :smile:I can't imagine anyone would say something like that. Well, it certainly is original. You should remember a good quote like that.

Next time ask the last time he handled a manslaughter case to completion. Or murder. Or assault with a deadly weapon. Oh right, that's what detectives are for.

[deep breath]

Okay, seriously. The great majority of those who join the patrol retire with the patrol. Some leave, though no small number who left recently have or are returning. We do not accept laterals into our Department, so that may play a role.

[silverman10051]

Now that you brought it up, do you guys generally see more CHP officers transferring out to other agencies or is it the other way around?

One of the reasons why I'm asking is because (I swear I'm not making this up) a few months ago, I went on a ride along with a local law enforcement agency and while we were all sitting at the dinner table, one of the officers brought up the question as to why I wanted to join the CHP. According to him, he sees the lazier officers in his department go for the CHP because as he said: "CHP stands for Can't Handle Policework". Without wanting to risk a potential riot between agencies, I'm not going to disclose the agency. :smile:

BUT on a side note, I stood up for the CHP and handled it. We even got into a scuffle outside over it (ok, well, maybe not that far :biggrin:).

He was joking of course...or was he? jk jk jk, don't shoot.

[EDIT: It was the other way around]


BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.... I am not going to say anything bad about other agencies. Having come from an allied agency, I can say that the CHP handles more out of the ordinary type stuff then the P.D does. With the P.D for instance, you can count coming on shift and chasing radio calls from the previous shift that bled over into yours. The majority of which will be barking dog calls, loud party calls, domestic violence calls that are for the most part repetitive and so on and so forth. You can guarantee that you will be responding to the same addresses over and over again. This of course is not to say that the CHP doesn't have some things that are repetitive (collisions, disabled vehicles, debris in the road.....) but the chances of coming across something unique is very possible.

The bottom line is that each agency is good at what they do. I have complete respect for each and every agency (including TSA, I wouldn't want that job). I have many friends that work for other agencies and when we get together it is a big ribbing fest. We all joke about each others agency but at the end of the day we all have a common goal.

I had my reasons for leaving the other agency. I had several other opportunities other then the CHP and I am glad and fortunate that I have this job. The CHP offers many unique opportunities that other agencies don't. Your level of motivation dictates what you can do on this department.

Ok, I will get off my soap box now...........

[amir0727]

Next time ask the last time he handled a manslaughter case to completion. Or murder. Or assault with a deadly weapon. Oh right, that's what detectives are for.

I can see it now:

Amir: "When was the last time you handled a manslaughter case?"

Officer X: "Manslaughter?.....Meaning......"


On a side note:

After my first ride along I was truly amazed on how well structured the CHP is. No disrespect to other departments and I'm definitely not trying to dog another department but there was a HUGE difference between Dept. X and the CHP. The level of professionalism, respect and integrity shown by the officer I was with that day truly made a positive impact on my decision to prove my worthiness to the CHP. I wouldn't be applying if I didn't feel like the fight to the finish wasn't worth it. This is just a little encouragement message for those contemplating on joining other departments to DO take a ride along with the CHP - it's definitely something you'll appreciate for the rest of your life.

[amir0727]

....With the P.D for instance, you can count coming on shift and chasing radio calls from the previous shift that bled over into yours. The majority of which will be barking dog calls, loud party calls, domestic violence calls that are for the most part repetitive and so on and so forth.....

Unfortunately, I really can't say this another way but TRUE THAT.

One after another. We responded to a call at a local Jack In The Box...wow....SO, I don't know how this customer justified calling 911 because he was given cold fries, which he then exchanged for hot fries and then demanded a refund because he had to get out of his car and go back inside (he received the food through the drive-thru window) and they wouldn't issue him a refund. This dude was SUPER irate. Anyhow, long story short, the officer gave him a big o'l "ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!????". It was pretty amusing but it was stupid and unjust because it ended up delaying us to our next call being an attempted robbery. Because of BS calls like this (oh yea, there were a good amount of 'em) we weren't able to make it to the important ones on time.

[Eagl5]

Agencies talking crap about agenceis is old news. Who cares, and thanks but I dont think the CHP needs someone to stand up for us, I think our history and record speak for itself. Gonna stop here, cuz have lots more to say but dont want to anger others.:hitwall:

[snowdog]

Now that you brought it up, do you guys generally see more CHP officers transferring out to other agencies or is it the other way around?

One of the reasons why I'm asking is because (I swear I'm not making this up) a few months ago, I went on a ride along with a local law enforcement agency and while we were all sitting at the dinner table, one of the officers brought up the question as to why I wanted to join the CHP. According to him, he sees the lazier officers in his department go for the CHP because as he said: "CHP stands for Can't Handle Policework". Without wanting to risk a potential riot between agencies, I'm not going to disclose the agency. :smile:

BUT on a side note, I stood up for the CHP and handled it. We even got into a scuffle outside over it (ok, well, maybe not that far :biggrin:).

He was joking of course...or was he? jk jk jk, don't shoot.

[EDIT: It was the other way around]
I've been looking over your past posts and I put most of your posts in 4 general categories.
1) You are kissing up.
2) You are asking questions that are either irrelevant or foolish.
3) You are offering advice.
4) Your stirring the pot trying to get a reaction from "Verified Chippies", especially with regards to other agencies.

So here's my advice to you. Keep the questions relevant, stop offering advice, stop comparing different agencies and save the kissing up for your background investigator (if you are so lucky) because as a 22 year old college graduate who comes across as a 17 year old wannabe that is where you are really going to need it.
Good Luck

[Kahuna]

Besides, it is not "Can't handle police work", it is "Coffee Has Priority". Get it right:doh::lol:

[dw]

Besides, it is not "Can't handle police work", it is "Coffee Has Priority". Get it right:doh::lol:One of the above quotes is accurate. But which one? :think:

[SB 405]

One of the above quotes is accurate. But which one? :think:

How about this.... "coffee has priority" because without it one "can't handle police work"

[iakona]

Besides, it is not "Can't handle police work", it is "Coffee Has Priority". Get it right:doh::lol:

Or "Cops Half Price" :biggrin:

Not that we would take gratuities. :lol:

[Mom]

When my son was contemplating a LEO position, he did several ride alongs. He was very enthused after riding with the Sheriffs. Then he rode with the local PD and he thought that was even better. Then he rode with CHP and he knew where he wanted to be. There was no looking back. Each one was with close family friends in that department. Each time he wondered why he should ride with the next one, as he was sure he had it right.