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360 (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d01/vc360.htm) "Highway" is a way or place of whatever nature, publicly maintained and open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel. Highway includes street.
Yep - like I said, it's a pretty liberal definition! :smile:
Or the other line I sometimes use - "You're reading the wrong line on the patch - try reading the TOP one!".
There was a local PD officer who didn't like seeing Chippies poaching in town - everytime he saw one of us, he'd pull up and ask "What are you doing in my city?". He finally found my partner and I, and asked his usual question....I replied "What's your city doing in my STATE?". :badgrin:
SR-25
02-13-2006, 04:10 PM
I'm aware CHP officers usually stick to the Highways. But if they are say, on their lunch break and they pass a city/county black and white that has someone pulled over, are in a city street high speed chase, possibly even a domestic violence call, at their discretion can they provide back up to the city/county officers or do they have to stick to their beat on the highway?
graver
02-13-2006, 04:37 PM
our beat is the state of california
CaliforniaHighwayPatrol
02-13-2006, 05:56 PM
I would say state jurisdiction.
RodeoChippie
02-13-2006, 06:30 PM
Providing assistance to allied agencies is a routine occurance. In some areas you may be their closest backup and they yours. As the saying goes, "All roads, all codes."
norcal625
02-13-2006, 07:02 PM
I just want to chip in my 2 cents here... It was 2:30 AM the other night and I'm an cadet for a city pd and we pulled over a mustang with 5 people in it and there was a CHP unit at the light when we initaited the stop on a on ramp/off ramp overpass... We had no additional units anywhere insight and we didn't throw up the code 4 sign. So they went and iniated a stop directly across from us (In fact they released their stop before we did!) and then drove off, parking at the gas station for a couple minutes then hit the freeway again. Our cover actually got there just before the CHP unit took off to the freeway. I asked the Officer if waved to them we were ok and he said no. There is no mistaking me for an Officer as I wear the powder blue shirt. I just thought it odd that they didn't make any communcation effort at all, I know we would have.
not5150
02-13-2006, 10:45 PM
I just want to chip in my 2 cents here... It was 2:30 AM the other night and I'm an cadet for a city pd and we pulled over a mustang with 5 people in it and there was a CHP unit at the light when we initaited the stop on a on ramp/off ramp overpass... We had no additional units anywhere insight and we didn't throw up the code 4 sign. So they went and iniated a stop directly across from us (In fact they released their stop before we did!) and then drove off, parking at the gas station for a couple minutes then hit the freeway again. Our cover actually got there just before the CHP unit took off to the freeway. I asked the Officer if waved to them we were ok and he said no. There is no mistaking me for an Officer as I wear the powder blue shirt. I just thought it odd that they didn't make any communcation effort at all, I know we would have.
I see no problem with that... they did a stop across the street, which gave them eye contact to you. Afterwards, they moved close by (gas station) and left after your backup arrived.
norcal625
02-13-2006, 11:19 PM
I guess I'm just used to the way all the locals who work with us do their thing. Pulling up right behind and walking up/driving by and checking the situation out and not leaving until we tell them were alright. Granted they were right across the street and then just down the street. Like I said I was just telling what happened and in no way trying to analyze the way they did their thing or that they were wrong, I'm just used to a different interaction when it comes to other PD's seeing if we're code 4. I'm young and still have a lot to learn and I know everyone is different.
pp48n
02-14-2006, 05:00 AM
I agree that as long as they were within your line of sight, if things "jumped off" as we say in NY they were right there to assist. And as it was said once you had back up they went on there way. It is all to possible they didnt want to step on your toes if you will.
BoySergeant
02-14-2006, 07:11 AM
Police officers in California have statewide peace officer powers regardless of any 'jurisdictional' boundaries. If you're in Los Angeles, Pasadena PD can still stop and cite you for a violation (albeit this practice is generally discouraged because they should be in Pasadena helping their citizens). The CHP is no different. We stop anyone anywhere for any violation. We don't care what city or county you're in since we are, in fact, the state police.
our beat is the state of california
All Roads, All Codes!!! We back allied agencies all the time, no matter whether it's on the freeway, in the middle of the city or the middle of nowhere.
Also, if by sticking to the "highways" you mean "freeways", that's a common misconception. Many areas throughout the state have tons of "surface street" beats within unincorporated (county) areas....it ain't all about the freeway.
...or as I've been known to tell people when they claim that I have no jurisdiction stopping them on surface streets because I'm Highway Patrol - "if you look up the definition of 'highway' in the Vehicle Code, you'll find that it's rather liberal....and encompasses what you were driving on". :badgrin:
pupdog
02-14-2006, 10:32 AM
I live in the sticks, outside city limits. If someone calls the cops (around here, it's usually for loud late parties)it used to be the shreriff's dept. that came. But budgets being what they are, these days it's usually CHP we see around here. Actually, I can't recall the last time I saw a sheriff's car around, but CHP is always there for us. I want this beat...I've got my fish in a barrell spots staked out!
I've got my fish in a barrell spots staked out!
OK, you're going to have to learn the lingo -Its a "cherry patch"
Tom
CaliforniaHighwayPatrol
02-14-2006, 11:08 PM
So do the regular cops have the same power as the CHP?
redhead
02-15-2006, 12:06 AM
...or as I've been known to tell people when they claim that I have no jurisdiction stopping them on surface streets because I'm Highway Patrol - "if you look up the definition of 'highway'in the Vehicle Code, you'll find that it's rather liberal....and encompasses what you were driving on". 360 (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d01/vc360.htm) "Highway" is a way or place of whatever nature, publicly maintained and open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular travel. Highway includes street.
You learn something new every day. Thanks Mac :smile:
Flying Pig
02-15-2006, 09:20 PM
All peace officer in Ca. have the same authority. Things they are responsible for can be different.
pupdog
02-16-2006, 01:22 PM
There was a local PD officer who didn't like seeing Chippies poaching in town
Ona RA last year, there was a big traffic jam on the beat. Why? The local city cops parked on the median strip to look for diamond lane violators! Of course everyone slows way down when a cop is parked there! The officer I was riding with was not amused.
SB 405
02-16-2006, 01:51 PM
Must have been a slow crime day if city cops are watching an HOV lane.
ka4993
02-16-2006, 03:31 PM
I've got my fish in a barrell spots staked out!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cameron
02-18-2006, 11:19 PM
haha, Mac, that made me laugh.
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