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DJR917
03-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Garberville 1
Fort Bragg RP 1
Tracy 1
Redwood City 5
San Francisco 2
San Jose 6
Hayward 7
Marin 4
Santa Rosa 2
Oakland 11
Castro Valley 4
Merced 5
Los Banos 1
Modesto 2
Coalinga 3
Baldwin Park 9
South LA 7
East LA 4
Newhall 2
Santa Fe Springs 5
West LA 4
West Valley 1
Central LA 7
El Centro 1
Westminster 4
Santa Ana 9
El Cajon 2
Santa Cruz 3
Gilroy 3
Monterey 1
Santa Barbara 1
Ventura 1
Moorpark 4
Bishop 2
Mojave 1
Needles 1
Barstow 2
Riverside 2
Arrowhead 1

Total 135

Mom
03-01-2008, 06:15 PM
I keep looking at the dream sheet going "Dang, if only he had waived for the first class." BUT, reality is, I think he is getting so much more experience in LA.

Chippysgt
03-01-2008, 06:23 PM
Geez, I don't remember choices like that during my career...........Ft Bragg?? 5 for Merced??? Modesto 2, Los Banos 1, Garberville?? Even some of those desert spots don't look too bad. Quite a few ocean view opportunities too...........

Should be a few happy campers out there. Of course anywhere with a Gold Badge, Sam Brown Belt and fast car is good................

CHPGuy
03-01-2008, 11:48 PM
Of course anywhere with a Gold Badge, Sam Brown Belt and fast car is good................


Amen to that!

25/31
03-02-2008, 07:04 AM
Wow, Tracy? I don't think I have seen that before....:cool:

Jeff Rhea
03-02-2008, 09:55 AM
That's a pretty good spread. Kinda takes away from the common perception that everybody either goes to LA or the Bay out of the Academy. Like I said before, it's a very big state.

Ft. Bragg? Now that's just a disservice. No doubt they will have to break that officer in somewhere else first!

Chippysgt
03-02-2008, 10:23 AM
I remember the first cadet that came to Merced around 89-90. They had not gotten a cadet in recorded history. Fortunately, he was a sharp guy that had spent 8 years in the Navy before joining us. It was funny as hell to me since I had worked as a Sergeant in Santa Fe Springs for over 3 years so I pretty much knew the drill but everyone from the Captain to the senior Sgts thought they knew better so I sat still and let them learn. The job got done with a little stumbling and to his credit, he turned out to be a super officer and last year he got his lobotomy and was promoted to Sergeant. I think he is still somewhere in Central Division..........

chpsto
03-02-2008, 10:35 AM
Hey DJR917, great news for you guys (and for us in the field)! When are the dream sheets due back to the Staff Office? Hopefully, you'll have assignments by next week.

Now, you guys stay motivated and GRADUATE! :biggrin:

jrsfan
03-02-2008, 10:37 AM
Hey DJR917, great news for you guys (and for us in the field)! When are the dream sheets due back to the Staff Office? Hopefully, you'll have assignments by next week.

Now, you guys stay motivated and GRADUATE! :biggrin:

They have to be turned in by tomorrow (Monday). So hopefully we will all know very soon!

AaeJae
03-02-2008, 03:16 PM
I am SOOOOO pOed.

bcjack
03-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Garberville 1
Fort Bragg RP 1
Tracy 1
Redwood City 5
San Francisco 2
San Jose 6
Hayward 7
Marin 4
Santa Rosa 2
Oakland 11
Castro Valley 4
Merced 5
Los Banos 1
Modesto 2
Coalinga 3
Baldwin Park 9
South LA 7
East LA 4
Newhall 2
Santa Fe Springs 5
West LA 4
West Valley 1
Central LA 7
El Centro 1
Westminster 4
Santa Ana 9
El Cajon 2
Santa Cruz 3
Gilroy 3
Monterey 1
Santa Barbara 1
Ventura 1
Moorpark 4
Bishop 2
Mojave 1
Needles 1
Barstow 2
Riverside 2
Arrowhead 1

Total 135


Some really nice choices!!!

Another RP right out of the academy!!!

jrsfan
03-02-2008, 08:26 PM
I am SOOOOO pOed.

Yeah, we will be too, if the next list has Fresno, Oakhurst, or Madera on it!

cal911gal
03-05-2008, 08:53 AM
For some of you who "missed the boat" by a class or two, don't despair..... remember that once you've completed your probation, turn in that 220 (this means you MLB!). You might get back closer to where you want to be faster than you expected. As you can see by this dream sheet, there are either openings or new positions in places no one expected (merced = 5 = OMG!). More of that will be happening, plus some of the newbs who end up in one of these areas might not want to stay.......

attrition + new positions = more opportunities

highway sentinel
03-05-2008, 09:34 AM
New officers NEED to go to large metro areas. How can one claim to be a Highwayman or woman without ever working a freeway with Five or more lanes?! In my opinion, it is a disservice to send new officers to RP's or real rural areas. I know many share that view. However, I know that not ALL do, but that is fine with me.

Mom
03-05-2008, 09:44 AM
New officers NEED to go to large metro areas. How can one claim to be a Highwayman or woman without ever working a freeway with Five or more lanes?! In my opinion, it is a disservice to send new officers to RP's or real rural areas. I know many share that view. However, I know that not ALL do, but that is fine with me.You may get to work a freeway with 5 lanes, but how often does that new officer get to learn how to get 5 cows out of the road??? (joking, but CHP is enroute to this now in my location.) I agree with you overall. The rural areas are vastly different from the large metros, and while it would have been nice to have had these dream sheet options last class, again, I think the learning experiences received in the "big city" will make him an overall better officer.

bcjack
03-05-2008, 06:28 PM
New officers NEED to go to large metro areas. How can one claim to be a Highwayman or woman without ever working a freeway with Five or more lanes?! In my opinion, it is a disservice to send new officers to RP's or real rural areas. I know many share that view. However, I know that not ALL do, but that is fine with me.

Not being a CHP Officer, but just an observer, I would have to agree. Not having the experience in doing all of the things that a CHP Officer does and being able to practice that trade before going to a place that might have one of two "big" crashes per year is just not fair to the officer or the customer.

Scott96b10
03-05-2008, 06:54 PM
Recently coming from L.A. to a mostly rural area, i can tell you this. The nastier crashes are in those rural areas. For the most part, no one can build up enough speed during the day in L.A. to hurt much other than the bumper of the vehicle in front of them. But if you get out on these 2-lane back roads and head on another vehicle, peaple get hurt, and bad.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen in L.A., but those five lane freeways do provide quite a bit of room for people to drive around an obstacle (not that they always do).

I left LA with the same state of mind that this new area would be a piece of cake. Not so.

Miami2Cali
03-05-2008, 06:57 PM
Kinda off topic, but which offices cover the desert areas in southern Cal? Is there an office that's more popular to work out of? Not from CA and I'm looking on a map but can't place all the offices.

bcjack
03-05-2008, 07:48 PM
Kinda off topic, but which offices cover the desert areas in southern Cal? Is there an office that's more popular to work out of? Not from CA and I'm looking on a map but can't place all the offices.

Scroll down and you will see all of the offices.

http://www.freqofnature.com/frequencies/ca/chp.html

23109
03-05-2008, 09:36 PM
Well I went to a rural area out of the Academy, I guess that makes me a lesser officer than those that went to a major metro area. :wink:

I did do two phases of break-in out of area in a metro area and it was great to get exposure to a lot of different people, but running from call to call handling 11-82's with the same PCF that I already learned how to write in a rural area (and knew how to write it the RIGHT way) taught me how to deal with heavy traffic congestion.

I learned more AI and general investigation skills while working the rural areas than in the city. In the city it was push or move everything ASAP and guestimate the measurements. In the rural areas you run a stationline and do all of your measurements, check and measure physical evidence, etc.


In the rural areas I was exposed to more investigation type work and performed more of my own follow up because I had the time to do so. It was fun being proactive and not just running from call to call. Knowing my backup wasn't a minute away with the multitude of other allied agencies within arm reach of me also helped consciously with my officer safety.

It can go both ways, I think a lot of it depends on how proactive and locked on your FTO's are.

bcjack
03-05-2008, 09:43 PM
Well I went to a rural area out of the Academy, I guess that makes me a lesser officer than those that went to a major metro area. :wink:

I did do two phases of break-in out of area in a metro area and it was great to get exposure to a lot of different people, but running from call to call handling 11-82's with the same PCF that I already learned how to write in a rural area (and knew how to write it the RIGHT way) taught me how to deal with heavy traffic congestion.

I learned more AI and general investigation skills while working the rural areas than in the city. In the city it was push or move everything ASAP and guestimate the measurements. In the rural areas you run a stationline and do all of your measurements, check and measure physical evidence, etc.


In the rural areas I was exposed to more investigation type work and performed more of my own follow up because I had the time to do so. It was fun being proactive and not just running from call to call. Knowing my backup wasn't a minute away with the multitude of other allied agencies within arm reach of me also helped consciously with my officer safety.

It can go both ways, I think a lot of it depends on how proactive and locked on your FTO's are.

What good does it do to push or move everthing out of the way when the fire engines are blocking all of the lanes anyway???:think:

G-Man
03-05-2008, 11:31 PM
What good does it do to push or move everthing out of the way when the fire engines are blocking all of the lanes anyway???:think:

You beat me to it! Those Crown Vic's can push a lot of weight, I will take a guess and say it can probably move a fire ENGINE, not a truck. :biggrin:

iakona
03-06-2008, 06:31 AM
Just a reminder, our department is called HIGHWAY Patrol not FREEWAY Patrol. I, too, did my break-in in a rural area. Mind you, we had 4 miles of freeway (2 lanes) and the rest county roads. I just think people are quick to judge when they have not had the experience working a rural area. Regardless of where someone breaks-in, we are all officers and deserve the same respect! Off my soap box now, have a great day.

Miami2Cali
03-06-2008, 09:15 AM
Scroll down and you will see all of the offices.

http://www.freqofnature.com/frequencies/ca/chp.html


Sweet thanks! Interesting to see how many Officers are assigned to each office...

bcjack
03-08-2008, 07:38 PM
You beat me to it! Those Crown Vic's can push a lot of weight, I will take a guess and say it can probably move a fire ENGINE, not a truck. :biggrin:

New engines today...+-45,000 lbs gross.

mb116
03-08-2008, 11:02 PM
I can't believe the Modesto and Merced openings. I am jealous.

TheForceCHP
03-09-2008, 05:39 AM
New engines today...+-45,000 lbs gross.

I have pushed fully loaded rigs multiple times before (don't know exact weight). The CV does fairly well when needed

CHP Explorer
03-09-2008, 10:52 AM
I have pushed fully loaded rigs multiple times before (don't know exact weight). The CV does fairly well when needed

I was on a ride along before we pushed a tour bus that got stuck on a dip going up a hill.

Jeff Rhea
03-11-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm with 23109 on this one. I've worked LA, the Bay and points in between; large and small. You will see things in LA and Oakland you will never see in King City and vis versa. They teach AI and traffic control at the academy, they don't teach cattle herding.

He is also correct about the dynamic collisions; you don't get 1,000-foot-long collision scenes with a rollover and 10 ejections and 7 fatalities in a metro area. You don't get fatals where there is nothing left at the scene but two wrecked vehicles by the time you finally get there. In rural areas you learn to not respond to every 11-79 unless you are really needed there because of the sparse coverage and long response times. You also learn to work a fatal all by yourself and not get mad that your beat partner did not come to help you; you realize they are the only other unit covering the rest of the Area and handeling all other calls.

Officer safety takes on a whole new meaning when you know code three back-up is an hour away. It's just you and your two friends - Smith and Wesson - baby!

Ideally, we would all be shipped around the state for well rounded careers - ideally.

chpsto
03-11-2008, 08:37 PM
Quick update: Area assignments came out this afternoon, so CTC III-07 (should they be so fortunate as to graduate) have their orders and will soon be on the way to the field!

uoplax13
03-12-2008, 09:08 AM
I work (and broke-in at) an RP. In my first year I've taken a fatal, plenty of crashes, pursuits, hooked plenty, herded cattle, rolled code with a few inches of ice and snow on the road, been in a mini-riot (50 or so person bar fight w/ 3 PD guys and an SO), taken rollovers in blizzards, taken an 11-80 snowmobile crash, found dope, handled a DV on the highway (with more dope), had a patrol car totalled when an idiot slid in some slush and rear-ended me, written a neighbor a ticket/ hooked her friend (and ran into him at a party later that month...fun), pulled guns off people (a lot of people carry guns in the boonies), dealt with parolees and rich snobs on vacation, and worked graveyards in a "real" office for a couple weeks for experience (6 or 7 dueces and some tickets).

Every office is different. Each area has different challenges. I don't think I'm any less an Officer, but who knows, maybe in a few years I'll turn into a real slug :smile:.

bcjack
03-12-2008, 08:39 PM
I work (and broke-in at) an RP. In my first year I've taken a fatal, plenty of crashes, pursuits, hooked plenty, herded cattle, rolled code with a few inches of ice and snow on the road, been in a mini-riot (50 or so person bar fight w/ 3 PD guys and an SO), taken rollovers in blizzards, taken an 11-80 snowmobile crash, found dope, handled a DV on the highway (with more dope), had a patrol car totalled when an idiot slid in some slush and rear-ended me, written a neighbor a ticket/ hooked her friend (and ran into him at a party later that month...fun), pulled guns off people (a lot of people carry guns in the boonies), dealt with parolees and rich snobs on vacation, and worked graveyards in a "real" office for a couple weeks for experience (6 or 7 dueces and some tickets).

Every office is different. Each area has different challenges. I don't think I'm any less an Officer, but who knows, maybe in a few years I'll turn into a real slug :smile:.

OK...My bad!!!:tape:

uoplax13
03-13-2008, 07:25 PM
OK...My bad!!!:tape:

Ok, I'll admit that the city guys probably do a lot more than us......and if I was sent to a city right now it'd probably be pretty over-whelming for the first couple days......send a city boy out next winter! Bottom line, that's why our jobs are freakin cool- we all do virtually the same thing in every geograhic extreme California has.....maybe I'm lame, but I think that's cool.

G-Man
03-13-2008, 10:14 PM
.....send a city boy out next winter!

No thanks, you can have it. I like my short sleeves in the winter thank you very much!

cal911gal
03-15-2008, 10:07 PM
Sweet thanks! Interesting to see how many Officers are assigned to each office...



Where it says "units" is not current staffing levels....it's the call sign prefix. For example......Merced call sign would be 64-1, 64-2 etc.

Artem
04-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Ft. Bragg is just beautiful, I have been there yesterday.:cool: