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Stylinnyc
10-09-2007, 01:41 PM
Has anyone been accepted into the January Class yet? Is the Department still accepting Cadets into CTC III -07:question:

Thank you

Metallicblue66
10-09-2007, 02:02 PM
Has anyone been accepted into the January Class yet? Is the Department still accepting Cadets into CTC III -07:question:

Thank you



I am almost positive no one will have been accepted into the January class yet, as invites usually go out between 6 weeks and two months before the start of the academy.

SJChp2B
10-09-2007, 03:38 PM
Invites don't go out this early. I was just at an orientation for the CTC III-07 and they said they were still short cadets for this class. They'll fill this one up first before sending out invites for CTC I-08.

GHM
10-09-2007, 03:53 PM
I had to waive the October class due to some personal reasons. As of last Tuesday I was told the October class was almost full. I have been told by the CHU that the invites for CTC I-08 will be coming out in late NOV-DEC. It was bitter sweet when my B.I. called and offered October, and I had to turn it down. Just knowing I passed the hiring process was awesome. I am now standing by for the invites to arrive. In the mean time I will continue to wake up at 0430 and train before work. I wish everyone in CTC III-07 the best of luck, and I will see you in January.

Stylinnyc
10-09-2007, 07:54 PM
when did you go to orientation for ctc III-07?

THanks for the help guys!!

Invites don't go out this early. I was just at an orientation for the CTC III-07 and they said they were still short cadets for this class. They'll fill this one up first before sending out invites for CTC I-08.

Jerminator
10-30-2007, 01:33 PM
Anyone else here hoping to make it to CTC I-08? I had my psych on 10/19/07 and now I'm just waiting patiently for the invite letter. That is if I passed :noidea:. Any cadet hopefuls from San Luis Obispo County? I look forward to meeting some of you and good luck to everyone in the process right now.

toe
10-30-2007, 02:12 PM
Jerm, I'm with you. Psych was earlier today and now the wait! By the way, Bay area.

CHiP Hopeful
10-30-2007, 04:04 PM
crossing my fingers:biggrin:

gabriel
10-30-2007, 08:40 PM
Same here, though its not in my hands and its not up to me whether I go. :D

Nor-Cal hopeful
11-08-2007, 05:14 PM
I just wanted to thank all the moderators and the helpful voices on this forum. I went in to my final backgrounds interview today and was told that I was being recommended for hire. I was given a list of doctors, and I called one and scheduled an appointment from the parking lot of Northern Division HQ. I am not in the academy yet I know, but I think the medical and psych. will go allright. All of the info received helped so much in being prepared so far. Hopefully I will be a cadet in CTC-I-08.

Melvin Eugene Punymeier
11-08-2007, 06:17 PM
Congrats, NorCal. It's a good feeling knowing that you're in the final sprint towards the finish line! Looks like your background went at lightning speed compared to mine... although I've lived all over the state and reside outside of California now which I'm sure contributed to the length.

I had my psych on 10/19 and have yet to hear anything. I'm still nervously checking the mailbox every day.... but no news is good news, and I'm hoping the next piece of mail I get from the State of California will be an invite to CTC I-08. I'll hope to see you there.

Yzeman
11-09-2007, 12:12 AM
...I went in to my final backgrounds interview today and was told that I was being recommended for hire. ...Hopefully I will be a cadet in CTC-I-08.

Very cool! Congratulations...keep your head, continue to prepare, and best of luck to you!

CHiP Hopeful
11-09-2007, 07:25 AM
That's great news. Seems as if you breezed through backgrounds.

Nor-Cal hopeful
11-09-2007, 09:11 AM
Thanks guys. I wouldn't say anybody breezes through backgrounds. There were a few issues, but nobody is perfect. I went in with everything from that list, and more. I was completely honest and opened my life like a book. I told them things they probably never wanted to know. :lol:

spikerman19
11-09-2007, 11:21 PM
I had my medical evalulation on 10-10-07 and was cleared,now I am going crazy waiting for the psych interview.

toe
11-10-2007, 04:48 AM
I am going crazy waiting for the psych
That will DQ you for sure. Just kidding. Mine were 6 weeks apart, so be patient and they will call.

cg+fd2chp
11-10-2007, 08:22 AM
I had my medical evalulation on 10-10-07 and was cleared,now I am going crazy waiting for the psych interview.


you FLEW through everything else. Welcome to the waiting club :biggrin::badgrin:

gabriel
11-10-2007, 10:28 AM
When are you told whether you passed your CVSA? Is it on the spot or via mail?

23112
11-10-2007, 05:28 PM
When are you told whether you passed your CVSA? Is it on the spot or via mail?

They don't tell you anything at the actual interview with direct communication. However, as long as DW doesn't delete this post, I will unveil the secret codes the CVSA crew uses to covertly let you know when you have failed (all CHP employees in backgrounds communicate in riddles and nuances to confuse applicants). If they tell you that the interview is over and tell you somethign along the lines of, "Thank you, you'll hear from your background investigator in the next couple of weeks," you definitely failed. If the interviewer says, "Uh-huh" at any point during the questioning, that's their way of saying, "I doubt what you're telling me, liar, now go away." And the biggest giveaway is if they look you in the eye at any point. Much like the wolf society, looking another in the eye is a confrontational challenge. So if your interviewer looks at your eyes--even for a brief second--it's all over. This tactic can be combatted by staring at the table throughout your entire interview and avoiding eye contact at all costs. The good news is that McDonald's is looking for more students to attend Hamburger University, and your background paperwork is automatically forwarded upon disqualification. Sorry for spilling all the secrets, Snowdog. :neutral:

dw
11-10-2007, 05:30 PM
When are you told whether you passed your CVSA? Is it on the spot or via mail?The CVSA, much like field sobriety tests, is not pass/fail.

They don't tell you anything at the actual interview with direct communication. However, as long as DW doesn't delete this post, I will unveil the secret codes the CVSA crew uses to covertly let you know when you have failed (all CHP employees in backgrounds communicate in riddles and nuances to confuse applicants). If they tell you that the interview is over and tell you somethign along the lines of, "Thank you, you'll hear from your background investigator in the next couple of weeks," you definitely failed. If the interviewer says, "Uh-huh" at any point during the questioning, that's their way of saying, "I doubt what you're telling me, liar, now go away." And the biggest giveaway is if they look you in the eye at any point. Much like the wolf society, looking another in the eye is a confrontational challenge. So if your interviewer looks at your eyes--even for a brief second--it's all over. This tactic can be combatted by staring at the table throughout your entire interview and avoiding eye contact at all costs. The good news is that McDonald's is looking for more students to attend Hamburger University, and your background paperwork is automatically forwarded upon disqualification. Sorry for spilling all the secrets, Snowdog. :neutral: :shock: :lol:

snowdog
11-10-2007, 05:36 PM
Sorry for spilling all the secrets, Snowdog. :neutral:

Great!! Now they know all the secret techniques. At least you didn't mention the importance of the color of our shirt and how it relates to hypnotizing them.

gabriel
11-10-2007, 05:48 PM
You guys have too much fun with us :razz::lol: :wink:

G-Man
11-10-2007, 10:41 PM
When are you told whether you passed your CVSA? Is it on the spot or via mail?

I remember being told right after the test. They showed be my results and explained it right there.

gabriel
11-10-2007, 11:24 PM
I remember being told right after the test. They showed be my results and explained it right there.

Thanks, hopefully it'll be like that for me also

spikerman19
11-11-2007, 11:10 PM
Thats pretty much how mine went.
I remember being told right after the test. They showed be my results and explained it right there.

gabriel
11-11-2007, 11:49 PM
I got mine this week.. I'm freaking out!

Mom
11-12-2007, 06:52 AM
I got mine this week.. I'm freaking out!Why? If you have nothing in the closet, all you do is go in, sit down, and be honest. No need to freak out. If you haven't been honest with your BI, then you have cause to be freaking out.

gabriel
11-12-2007, 12:32 PM
Why? If you have nothing in the closet, all you do is go in, sit down, and be honest. No need to freak out. If you haven't been honest with your BI, then you have cause to be freaking out.

Has nothing to do with hiding anything or not being honest, it's mostly the 'unknown' of it. May be 'freaking out' wasn't the right phrase, more like slightly "apprehensive"?

CTC III-05
11-13-2007, 10:29 AM
it's mostly the 'unknown' of it

You might as well get used to this right now. You will have unknowns throughout the hiring process, at the Academy, and on every single stop and contact you make once you are on the road.

CWMellow
11-13-2007, 03:10 PM
The only question I had a hard time with was when they asked me about the relationship that I once had with some farm animals when I was much younger........ stupid sheep.......

snowdog
11-13-2007, 03:22 PM
....... stupid sheep.......

Don't you hate when those damn farm animals get you all liquored up then take advantage of you :shock:

cg+fd2chp
11-14-2007, 06:58 PM
The BI working with me said that most likely no one that tested around the time I did in Northern Division will make it to CTC I -08. We'll see.

gabriel
11-14-2007, 08:01 PM
The BI working with me said that most likely no one that tested around the time I did in Northern Division will make it to CTC I -08. We'll see.

Because they didnt pass or because its taking long?

Mom
11-14-2007, 08:48 PM
The BI working with me said that most likely no one that tested around the time I did in Northern Division will make it to CTC I -08. We'll see.Thats what they told my son CTC II-07 when he entered backgrounds. He was actually told there was no way he would make it to CTC II-07. He did backgrounds in 2 weeks, then his medical one day, the psych less than 24 hours later (they tried to schedule them on the same day.) He got his invite 7 days later. He got his assignment today...

gabriel
11-15-2007, 11:34 AM
When are you told whether you passed your CVSA? Is it on the spot or via mail?

Passed. Told on the spot. Not before being scared to death. :redface:

cg+fd2chp
11-15-2007, 06:01 PM
Thats what they told my son CTC II-07 when he entered backgrounds. He was actually told there was no way he would make it to CTC II-07. He did backgrounds in 2 weeks, then his medical one day, the psych less than 24 hours later (they tried to schedule them on the same day.) He got his invite 7 days later. He got his assignment today...


"most likely" no one. He said the high QAP scores maybe.




Awesome, where's he going?

Mom
11-15-2007, 07:37 PM
Awesome, where's he going?LA. He had a low last 4.

cg+fd2chp
11-16-2007, 07:49 AM
Me too. Starts with a 1 :doh:


I wouldn't mind the LA area though

spikerman19
11-16-2007, 06:07 PM
This might sound dumb, but is 0000 low or is 9999 low for your social
LA. He had a low last 4.

rayni
11-16-2007, 06:15 PM
This might sound dumb, but is 0000 low or is 9999 low for your social

0000 means your going to East LA. :biggrin: 9999 means ya gotta a good chance at your #1 pic. By the way from what I understand East Los is a great office to get your break in done. It may not be mayberry , but every officer I have spoken with who paid their dues in a busy office has appreciated the experience.:wink:

TanAndBlue
11-16-2007, 06:17 PM
I received my academy invite today. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Good luck to all of the other hopefuls!!!!

CHPwannaBE
11-16-2007, 08:37 PM
TanandBlue Congrats!!!!!!! I'm jealous. By the way if that's the case with the SS# then I will be in luck!! Whats the best station in SoCal if you can have whatever one you want?

Mom
11-17-2007, 08:52 AM
TanandBlue Congrats!!!!!!! I'm jealous. By the way if that's the case with the SS# then I will be in luck!! Whats the best station in SoCal if you can have whatever one you want?East LA.

23112
11-17-2007, 10:32 AM
Whats the best station in SoCal if you can have whatever one you want?

West Valley

Nor-Cal hopeful
11-19-2007, 08:38 AM
Congrats Tan and Blue. Just curious, what testing cycle were you in? I am just waiting on the psych.

G-Man
11-19-2007, 12:20 PM
West Valley

+1

Boston Fan
11-19-2007, 02:08 PM
Received my invite on Friday; looking forward to seeing all the shaved heads at the orientation.:lol::lol:

TanAndBlue
11-19-2007, 03:05 PM
Congrats Tan and Blue. Just curious, what testing cycle were you in? I am just waiting on the psych.


I had my QAP in may with valley division. I was told I would have been in the October academy if my B.I. wasn't laid off during my background investigation. My file was then put aside until all aplicants in my testing cycle backgrounds were completed. Everything happens for a reason and I am just happy I have been accepted. So basically I was in between testing cycles.

bcjack
11-19-2007, 05:14 PM
I had my QAP in may with valley division. I was told I would have been in the October academy if my B.I. wasn't laid off during my background investigation. My file was then put aside until all aplicants in my testing cycle backgrounds were completed. Everything happens for a reason and I am just happy I have been accepted. So basically I was in between testing cycles.

Was the B.I. an Officer or civilian???:noidea:

TanAndBlue
11-19-2007, 05:57 PM
Was the B.I. an Officer or civilian???:noidea:

He was a retired chippie that was hired on to help with the expansion. What I was told was that when the state did the budget, some or all of them were laid off.

cg+fd2chp
11-19-2007, 07:00 PM
How far NorCal?

I'm finishing up with a retired SGT tomorrow..could be the same

snowdog
11-19-2007, 07:36 PM
That's kind of right. He is a retired annuitant. There was no budget passed on July 1 so there were no funds to pay the R.A's., or some might say they were laid off. Their cases were reassigned which unfortunately meant those cases went to the bottom of the pile. Once the budget was passed and approval was granted they began to return. They are all back now and helping us push forward.

What I was told was that when the state did the budget, some or all of them were laid off.

JoeRodSac
11-19-2007, 08:45 PM
Count me in for January 7th.

sbchp
11-20-2007, 06:49 AM
Count me in too !!!

GHM
11-20-2007, 08:02 AM
I received my invite yesterday. Count me in for CTC-I-08!!!

TanAndBlue
11-20-2007, 09:40 AM
Congrats GHM, sbchp, JoeRodSac, and Boston Fan! Hope to see you guys there.

Jerminator
11-20-2007, 01:11 PM
I received my invite as well today. Congrats to everyone else as well!!

Nor-Cal hopeful
11-20-2007, 02:22 PM
Congratulations guys!!!! It sounds like a lot of guys and gals are getting the good news right now. Remember how many of us there are who would jump at the chance to be molded into shape by the staff at camp snoopy. Quitting is not an option. You guys can do it. Hopefully I will get some info soon. I would love to join you.

Jerminator
11-20-2007, 07:29 PM
We would love to see you there too Nor-Cal. Good luck!

here2serve
11-21-2007, 09:32 PM
We would love to see you there too Nor-Cal. Good luck!

Us Junior Cadets will be especially excited to have you all joining us in January!!

Stand-by to Stand-by future Cadets!! :shock:

CHP2B
11-26-2007, 12:03 PM
Received my invite letter on Friday (112307) for CTC I-08! :smile: Count me in!!

sbchp
11-26-2007, 02:45 PM
Does anyone know if there will be an informational session or regional meeting for cadets before the orientation on Jan 6th. I was just curious if there was going to be time where we can ask questions and get more info on what to bring or if we should be going to our B.I. for that information. Thanks

Jerminator
11-26-2007, 03:01 PM
If anyone is looking to carpool to CTC I-08 from San Luis Obispo or Santa Barbara County, let me know. It's a long drive and gas costs are outrageous at the moment. Just send me a private message if interested.

Mom
11-26-2007, 03:28 PM
Does anyone know if there will be an informational session or regional meeting for cadets before the orientation on Jan 6th. I was just curious if there was going to be time where we can ask questions and get more info on what to bring or if we should be going to our B.I. for that information. ThanksThere usually is one per area the week before the academy starts. You might contact your BI for the info.

BOSSLADY
11-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Does anyone know if there will be an informational session or regional meeting for cadets before the orientation on Jan 6th. I was just curious if there was going to be time where we can ask questions and get more info on what to bring or if we should be going to our B.I. for that information. Thanks



For the Inland Division there is an orientation @ 0900 on 1-2-08 at the Division office

Jerminator
11-29-2007, 11:20 AM
Congrats to all the cadets that have been invited to CTC I-08! Here is a list so far of who has received invites:

TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2BIf I missed your name or you want to be added to the list, just let me know.

Also, previous classes have had a dinner the night before reporting to Camp Snoopy at the Hard Rock Cafe. Anyone interested in doing the same? Spouses and SO's are included. I think it would be a good way to informally meet other cadets and for spouses and SO's to meet. I will try to reserve the banquet room at the Hard Rock if others are interested. DW, you are included as well if you wish to come!!:biggrin:

I will set the dinner up for 6PM on Sunday 1/6/08.

jrsfan
11-29-2007, 04:07 PM
Jerminator,
We just did the Hard Rock dinner for CTC III-07, and you might want to place a limit on the number of people you invite. The room we had really is not that huge. I think we had low 30s and the room was pretty full. I don't know if there is a bigger room, you might want to check. Just wanted to throw a heads up out there.

Eagl5
11-29-2007, 04:15 PM
Congrats to all the cadets that have been invited to CTC I-08! Here is a list so far of who has received invites:

TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2BIf I missed your name or you want to be added to the list, just let me know.

Also, previous classes have had a dinner the night before reporting to Camp Snoopy at the Hard Rock Cafe. Anyone interested in doing the same? Spouses and SO's are included. I think it would be a good way to informally meet other cadets and for spouses and SO's to meet. I will try to reserve the banquet room at the Hard Rock if others are interested. DW, you are included as well if you wish to come!!:biggrin:

I will set the dinner up for 6PM on Sunday 1/6/08.

Yeah DW you should go, you should buy also and you can impart wisdom to the new to be minted cadets!!!!

snowdog
11-29-2007, 08:02 PM
DW, you are included as well if you wish to come!!:biggrin:
I'm feeling left out:cry: Is it because I didn't shower today?

dw
11-29-2007, 09:07 PM
Yeah DW you should go, you should buy also and you can impart wisdom to the new to be minted cadets!!!!Buy what? :hitwall: I'll come if you and snowdog will. In fact, you can put your years of experience of to work and cook for everyone! :wink:

Eagl5
11-29-2007, 09:10 PM
Buy what? :hitwall: I'll come if you and snowdog will. In fact, you can put your years of experience of to work and cook for everyone! :wink:
Now thats just mean. :doh:

bcjack
11-29-2007, 09:16 PM
Jerminator,
We just did the Hard Rock dinner for CTC III-07, and you might want to place a limit on the number of people you invite. The room we had really is not that huge. I think we had low 30s and the room was pretty full. I don't know if there is a bigger room, you might want to check. Just wanted to throw a heads up out there.

Let me know the time and date...I will call the Sac Fire Dept. Fire Marshal for a "Surprise" visit!!!:badgrin:

Here's a little pre-academy math: DIVIDE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ROOM IN QUESTION BY 15 = MAXIMUM OCCUPANT LOAD...:think: Don't forget to have at least two exits if your number is between 50 and 299, three exits for 300 to 499.

Seriously, good luck to all of you who are embarking on a journey into a very worthy profession. :biggrin:

Jerminator
11-29-2007, 10:38 PM
I'm feeling left out:cry: Is it because I didn't shower today?

Of course you're invited too! How could we not invite another Chippie that has provided us with so much info and insight!!

chpwife2b
11-30-2007, 08:37 AM
Hi All,
Just wondering...anyone in the fresno area get an invite yet?

Rangers LTW
11-30-2007, 02:02 PM
I received my invite letter today so I will see you all in January. Also, I am from the Fresno area (Visalia).

Jerminator
11-30-2007, 02:52 PM
Congrats Rangers_LTW. Here is the updated list:

TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTWRemember to let me know about the dinner if interested. Once I get a good idea of how many will be attending, I will give out more details.

GHM
11-30-2007, 11:20 PM
Add myself and SO to the dinner list. It will be great getting to meet class mates and their SO's before reporting to the holiday get away called the Academy. :biggrin:

Spartan
12-01-2007, 11:19 AM
Congratulations everyone! Getting to know each other beforehand is an excellent idea. Teamwork is the only thing that will get you through the hardest 27 weeks of your life. I'm sure I can speak for the entire Junior class when I say that we are all looking forward to not being the lowest of the low anymore. We will be very happy to see your smiling faces on pickup day! It is an outstanding experience...

Jerminator
12-01-2007, 02:37 PM
Hey Spartan, I'm sure you'll be glad to see our :shock: faces on pickup day!!

Congratulations everyone! Getting to know each other beforehand is an excellent idea. Teamwork is the only thing that will get you through the hardest 27 weeks of your life. I'm sure I can speak for the entire Junior class when I say that we are all looking forward to not being the lowest of the low anymore. We will be very happy to see your smiling faces on pickup day! It is an outstanding experience...

JohnKD
12-01-2007, 04:24 PM
Hey Spartan, I'm sure you'll be glad to see our :shock: faces on pickup day!!


+100 :shock:
Look foreward to meeting you all.

cg+fd2chp
12-02-2007, 03:10 PM
TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u

lew
12-02-2007, 09:23 PM
Count me in also.

Jerminator
12-02-2007, 10:09 PM
cg+fd2chp, thanks for adding Angelito4U. We can now add lew to the list as well.
TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew

Boston Fan
12-03-2007, 04:02 PM
Add my spouse and me to the dinner list, I am looking forward to some pre-camp fun.

spikerman19
12-04-2007, 04:44 PM
I just recieved my invite phone call today!
cg+fd2chp, thanks for adding Angelito4U. We can now add lew to the list as well.

TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew

Nor-Cal hopeful
12-04-2007, 04:50 PM
Congrats spiker. Hope to see you there in January. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

cg+fd2chp
12-04-2007, 05:54 PM
I just recieved my invite phone call today!


SWEET !

congrats

cg+fd2chp
12-04-2007, 05:54 PM
TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
spikerman19

User142434
12-04-2007, 08:03 PM
All those who are invited to the academy, what's your QAP score? A friend has a high score got invited to the acamedy 2 weeks ago. I have a low score and have not been invited yet. Are they only inviting high scores and shelfing the low scores? BTW we both had our psych interview in beginning of Oct.

cg+fd2chp
12-04-2007, 08:28 PM
The higher the QAP score the sooner they are looked at for invites.

CHPwannaBE
12-04-2007, 08:30 PM
All those who are invited to the academy, what's your QAP score? A friend has a high score got invited to the acamedy 2 weeks ago. I have a low score and have not been invited yet. Are they only inviting high scores and shelfing the low scores? BTW we both had our psych interview in beginning of Oct.

Give us an idea and tell us what the both of yours were.

sbchp
12-05-2007, 06:28 AM
Add myself and SO to the dinner list.

snowdog
12-05-2007, 07:07 AM
The higher the QAP score the sooner they are looked at for invites.

And this became policy when?
Actually, your QAP score has absolutely nothing to do with when you receive the invitation.

cg+fd2chp
12-05-2007, 07:12 AM
or maybe it was when the BI started your case...:doh:

snowdog
12-05-2007, 08:04 AM
or maybe it was when the BI started your case...:doh:
Again, wrong information. Many things are taken into consideration that determine when anyone's background begins.

jrsfan
12-05-2007, 09:14 AM
Something for you who are waiting for your invite to remember. You may not get called for the first class that you're eligible for. You can be all done with testing and ready to go on your end, and wait for three classes to go by before you get invited. It happens. They will call you when they need you. And, you will be in the class you are meant to be in.

Eagl5
12-05-2007, 09:36 AM
or maybe it was when the BI started your case...:doh:
Or maybe this is why DW tells you Applicants to watch what information you guys give out that you think is right, but is totally wrong. :shock:

User142434
12-05-2007, 11:09 AM
Both of us took the written, PAT, QAP, on the same dates. Both had initial BI, CVSA, final BI, medicial, psych a few days apart. We had our psych on the first week of October. He got his invitation in mid November. I'm still in the dark. I haven't received anything from SPB either which is good. The difference I can think of is he got a high QAP. I got a low but passing QAP. He got a friendlier BI. I got a tougher BI. He did his psych in town. I had to goto another city for my psych.

Nor-Cal hopeful
12-05-2007, 12:53 PM
Have you ever seen another psychologist or therapist? Could it be held up waiting for those reports back?

cg+fd2chp
12-05-2007, 02:07 PM
My apologies, I got some bad info from a credible source or I misunderstood.
So, no where in the process is a higher qualifying QAP score an advantage over the lower qualifying QAP score? I could have sworn it came in to play somewhere...

snowdog
12-05-2007, 02:53 PM
Both of us took the written, PAT, QAP, on the same dates. Both had initial BI, CVSA, final BI, medicial, psych a few days apart. We had our psych on the first week of October. He got his invitation in mid November. I'm still in the dark. I haven't received anything from SPB either which is good. The difference I can think of is he got a high QAP. I got a low but passing QAP. He got a friendlier BI. I got a tougher BI. He did his psych in town. I had to goto another city for my psych.

Obviously you are two different people with different backgrounds and different life history as evidence by your different QAP scores. Your B.I.'s personality has nothing to do with it. Don't confuse friendly or tougher with professional. Possibly there were more derogatory issues in your B.I. than the other guy. Where you had your psych interview also has nothing to do with it. They all have to base their professional opinions on the same standards/criteria as all other applicants. Nobody here knows why you have not received an invitation so all you can do is keep hope alive. Good Luck.

My apologies, I got some bad info from a credible source or I misunderstood.
So, no where in the process is a higher qualifying QAP score an advantage over the lower qualifying QAP score? I could have sworn it came in to play somewhere...

Be careful of what you consider a credible source. Kinda what GitRDone was suggesting.
Now that the Department has decided to dip down to the 70's to expand our applicant pool :tape: the score of 70 or higher only allows you to move into backgrounds. As has been explained in previous posts (probably several times) every B.I. has their own method of choosing when to interview their applicants. The amount of life history you have, number of residences or employers you have, whether you are an out-of-state applicant or lived out of state during your life, past criminal history, past driving history or a plethora of other factors including your QAP score, may influence your B.I. Or, maybe the applicant just ticked him/her off by being a know-it-all at some point and he/she remembers you so they moved you to the bottom of the pile so they don't have to deal with you yet. (Not that this would ever happen :think:).
Once you have advanced into backgrounds the score essentially has no value.
Now, years back our applicant pool was so large that the Department could pick and choose who to advance. Although 85 was once the minimum, we had so many 95's and the classes were smaller so we would only advance the 95's.
For now, consider your QAP score similar to your time in the 500' run. We don't care how fast you did it, just that you did it in the minimal time allowed.
I hope this offers some clarification.

cg+fd2chp
12-05-2007, 05:22 PM
Got it.



Thank you snowdog

Mom
12-05-2007, 07:20 PM
Both of us took the written, PAT, QAP, on the same dates. Both had initial BI, CVSA, final BI, medicial, psych a few days apart. We had our psych on the first week of October. He got his invitation in mid November. I'm still in the dark. I haven't received anything from SPB either which is good. The difference I can think of is he got a high QAP. I got a low but passing QAP. He got a friendlier BI. I got a tougher BI. He did his psych in town. I had to goto another city for my psych.Is there a possibility you may have moved? Had a phone number change and they don't know it? Is your mail reliable? Any chance your invite could have been lost? I know several have posted they got phone calls asking if they were going to accept the invite, as CHU hadn't heard back frmo them.

Eagl5
12-05-2007, 08:37 PM
Just to add what snowdog was saying, all QAP score does is kinda move you alog in the process, but he was right, since we lowered the scores things are a bit different. So don't compare yourself to your friend, just wory about yourself, if its meant to be in this class it will be. If for some reason you get another class who cares as long as you get there right.

dw
12-07-2007, 02:39 PM
As I read this thread a rant formed in my head but lucky for everyone, you don't have to read it thanks to snowdog & GitRDone who covered the bases.

I guess the last dozen times I've said this has fallen on deaf ears so here goes again: There are few things that police dislike more than "experts" in their field who are unqualified to provide an opinion but do so anyway. It follows that those of us who work in with applicants in the hiring process have very little tolerance for "expert applicants" who think they know everything about the process and provide bad information to others. As it relates to your application, dishing out bad advice and being a know-it-all shows poor judgment and immaturity; attributes we don't particularly value in an applicant.

Ruling on an unrelated matter, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals recently ruled that although citizens have the Constitutional right to freedom of speech, they do not have a Constitutional right to be a police officer. Think about that for a minute next time before you post. The two may be mutually-exclusive.

User142434
12-07-2007, 09:26 PM
I realize that qap scores, BI, and place of psych interview dont matter. We both got through the hiring process around the same time. Im not worry about that. What I'm worry about is what Mom had suggested. What if my invitation was lost in the mail or I'm simply being shelved til further notice and don't know it. I have not moved, nor changed my phone number. I really dont care what other applicants opinions are, only credible source.
My employer knows that there's a possibility that I will depart my job by the end of December pending on my CHP invitation. They have already hired my replacement. I have stressed to them that I have not received my invation yet and may have to work til I get invited to CHP academy. They are not taking any chances of loosing me and not able to fill my position.
I remember during the final BI interview, my BI and his BI both told us that invations usually being sent out 4 to 6 weeks before academy date but could be as late as a few days before the academy date.
Is there any way to find out my application status without drawing attention to myself? I have a feeling that the answer is no. I thought I ask.
Edit:
....Is your mail reliable?......
God, I hope so. It's the United Stated Postal Service. If they're not reliable please suggest another.:lol: I had to cheer myself up.

23112
12-07-2007, 10:37 PM
I had my paperwork "misplaced" up in Sacramento the first time I went through the hiring process. It was misfiled for such a long time that when I called to ask what was going on, they had to send my packet back down to backgrounds to a new background investigator because more than a year had lapsed. Then I got DQ'ed by the second investigator, even though the first one recommended me. Talk about a situation that sucked. Alas, I eventually re-applied and made it back through, so hopefully you'll do the same.

dw
12-08-2007, 01:39 PM
Is there any way to find out my application status without drawing attention to myself? I have a feeling that the answer is no. I thought I ask..A friendly call to your BI?

OfficerWife
12-13-2007, 10:29 PM
If there is still a dinner being planned, please add cadetwife and her cadet :biggrin:

Eagl5
12-14-2007, 02:37 PM
If there is still a dinner being planned, please add cadetwife and her cadet :biggrin:
And cadet will wear what cadet wife tells him too. :lol:

OfficerWife
12-14-2007, 03:43 PM
And cadet will wear what cadet wife tells him too. :lol:

What?! How did you know?!! :shock: :lol:

Eagl5
12-14-2007, 10:51 PM
What?! How did you know?!! :shock: :lol:

:doh:

203247
12-17-2007, 03:53 PM
I am new to the posting, long to the viewing. Jerminator, can you tell me if there is still room at the dinner for me and SO? I am in CTC1-08 and would like to attend the dinner before 6 months at summer camp:lol:.

Tom
12-17-2007, 07:20 PM
I'll answer for him...even if there isn't room....GO....you guys "meshing" early is a good thing....go no matter what...........you can smuggle in a big mac or something..............

Jerminator
12-17-2007, 08:48 PM
I am new to the posting, long to the viewing. Jerminator, can you tell me if there is still room at the dinner for me and SO? I am in CTC1-08 and would like to attend the dinner before 6 months at summer camp:lol:.

You bet 203247, both of you are welcome to come. I will send you the details via PM after Christmas!! Congrats and I look forward to meeting you in a few weeks!!

Jerminator
12-17-2007, 08:54 PM
...........you can smuggle in a big mac or something..............

I don't know, Big Mac the day before reporting? I'm sure the PT staff would love to get word of that!! :lol:

USMC8541
12-22-2007, 09:55 AM
Congrats to all those on their way to Ctc I-08. Now hurry up and report please:lol:

malibu65
12-23-2007, 10:13 AM
ya'll just need to stand by to stand by. Can't wait to see you guys show up. Hopefully it'll mean less heat for us ;) But it doesn't guarantee anything. make sure you guys are in good shape comming in too, or pt staff will have their way with you. :neutral:

PapaBear
12-23-2007, 10:43 AM
Does anyone know if there will be an informational session or regional meeting for cadets before the orientation on Jan 6th. I was just curious if there was going to be time where we can ask questions and get more info on what to bring or if we should be going to our B.I. for that information. Thanks

What to bring

As a cadet, the most important item to take to training is a positive attitude. It is imperative that each cadet possesses certain documents and information for the first day processing.

-Driver's License
-At least two blank checks, with $350 to $500 in account to cover checks
-Social Security Numbers of Beneficiaries
-Emergency contact information
-Vehicle information - License Plate Number, Color, Make and Model

Other Items to Bring

-One clock-radio
-Dusting supplies (Pledge, dust rags, etc.)
-Shoe Polishing items
-Plain white Crew Neck t-shirts
-A minimum amount of civilian attire
-Swimsuit
-Toiletries (Prescription Medications)
-Boots / Shoes - Black, all leather
-A pair of running shoes and non-marking court shoes

http://www.chp.ca.gov/cadet/cadet_2.html

Nuori84
12-26-2007, 11:53 PM
I will be in 1/7/08 class. My letter was dated 11/14/07. :cool: I had my closing interview with by BI on 9/14 (my birthday). It took me 1 year and 2 days since I passed the written.

Nuori84
12-27-2007, 12:02 AM
TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
Nuori84

Nor-Cal hopeful
12-27-2007, 08:45 AM
nuori84 congratulations man but you left spikerman19 off of it. You are number 12.


TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
Nuori84

Nuori84
12-27-2007, 12:59 PM
nuori84 congratulations man but you left spikerman19 off of it. You are number 12.

Thanks. I just copied what I thought was the last post digging back. :doh:


TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
spikerman19 4
Nuori84

Nor-Cal hopeful
12-27-2007, 02:13 PM
And now the moment I have been waiting for I get to add myself to the list. I got the phone call today when I went home for lunch. I am so excited I can barely stand it. Thank you everybody for all the support you have given me.

TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
spikerman19 4
Nuori84
Nor-cal Hopeful woooooo hoooooo

JackFlash
12-27-2007, 02:29 PM
Congrats man! I think the whole board was rooting for you.

And now the moment I have been waiting for I get to add myself to the list. I got the phone call today when I went home for lunch. I am so excited I can barely stand it. Thank you everybody for all the support you have given me.
TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
spikerman19 4
Nuori84
Nor-cal Hopeful woooooo hoooooo

Nor-Cal hopeful
12-27-2007, 02:49 PM
Now the real worry sets in. There is always something to worry about, so I am just going to relax and enjoy this feeling as long as I can. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

spikerman19
12-27-2007, 03:08 PM
Wow,right on brother its great to hear this news, hope to see you soon!
Now the real worry sets in. There is always something to worry about, so I am just going to relax and enjoy this feeling as long as I can. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

elprotectorchp
12-27-2007, 03:17 PM
And now the moment I have been waiting for I get to add myself to the list. I got the phone call today when I went home for lunch. I am so excited I can barely stand it. Thank you everybody for all the support you have given me.

TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
spikerman19 4
Nuori84
Nor-cal Hopeful woooooo hoooooo



Congratulations, Nor Cal Hopeful!
I have followed your progress since you applied. You have come a long way.

CHiP Hopeful
12-27-2007, 03:20 PM
Congrats Nor-Cal!!!

CHP2B
12-27-2007, 03:28 PM
Congratulations NOR-CAL !! I look forward to meeting you at the academy.:smile:

OfficerWife
12-27-2007, 03:35 PM
Congrats Nor-Cal! Me and my cadet were thinking about you over the holidays. Congratulations!!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Mom
12-27-2007, 08:12 PM
Congrats!!! Get your affairs in order quickly and be as prepared as you can be. All you can do is the best you can do. Give it everything you have and you should be fine. I've been rooting for you.

cal911gal
12-27-2007, 08:18 PM
Congrats to all of you.

NorCal, I am very happy for you, as you had me checking daily to find out if you had heard!!!

Nuori84
12-28-2007, 02:44 AM
Is it rare to have this many guys (13) on this board for one class?

JackFlash
12-28-2007, 08:42 AM
Is it rare to have this many guys (13) on this board for one class?


It could say statistically that candidates who visit this board are more informed, and therefore more likely to navigate the hiring gauntlet successfully. Someone should do a study. :biggrin:

Congratulations out to all those whom have been successful! Good Luck!

Mom
12-28-2007, 09:22 AM
Is it rare to have this many guys (13) on this board for one class?CTC II-07 and CTC III-07 both had about 28 posting on the boards.

Nor-Cal hopeful
12-28-2007, 09:45 AM
Thank you everybody. It means so much to me. So much pressure not to walk away.:lol: I look forward to meeting everybody down there. Any word on the dinner?

JackFlash
12-28-2007, 10:27 AM
CTC II-07 and CTC III-07 both had about 28 posting on the boards.

28 each class, or 28 total?

Nor-Cal hopeful
12-28-2007, 10:57 AM
if you do a search under each of the classes you will find the lists of the guys from the forums who said they were invited. I know we all gave the staff a heads up that we were coming, but I was too excited not to share. I guess I will have to deal with the wrath. :lol:
I will start you out with one. http://www.chpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2592&highlight=orientation&page=9
Happy hunting jack. :biggrin:

Jerminator
12-28-2007, 11:12 AM
TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
spikerman19 4
Nuori84
Nor-cal Hopeful woooooo hoooooo
Chipper745
UCLA04
203247
cadetwife's cadet

Jerminator
12-28-2007, 11:49 AM
Here is a list so far of who I have attending the dinner.

1.Jerminator x 2
2.TanAndBlue x 2
3.GHM x 2
4.Boston_Fan x 2
5.angelito4u x 2
6.UCLA04 x 1
7.203247 x 2
8.cadetwife x 2
9.Chipper745 x 1
10.Sbchp x 2

If I forgot someone or if someone wants to add, please PM me ASAP. I need to get an accurate count so I can determine where the dinner will be.

THANK YOU!

JackFlash
12-28-2007, 01:48 PM
if you do a search under each of the classes you will find the lists of the guys from the forums who said they were invited. I know we all gave the staff a heads up that we were coming, but I was too excited not to share. I guess I will have to deal with the wrath. :lol:
I will start you out with one. http://www.chpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2592&highlight=orientation&page=9
Happy hunting jack. :biggrin:

Thank you. I had done the search myself after posting. I am more curious now how many applicants found the site and were not hired. I am wondering about a correlation between being an actively posting applicant and not making it. I also think I am just trying to occupy my brain while I wait for my QAP results.

AFtoCHPHopefully
12-28-2007, 06:30 PM
And now the moment I have been waiting for I get to add myself to the list. I got the phone call today when I went home for lunch. I am so excited I can barely stand it. Thank you everybody for all the support you have given me.

TanAndBlue
Boston_Fan
JoeRodSac
sbchp
GHM
Jerminator
CHP2B
Rangers_LTW
Angelito4u
lew
spikerman19 4
Nuori84
Nor-cal Hopeful woooooo hoooooo
Congratulations Nor-Cal. I have never talked to you on this forum but I see your postings all the time. I wish the very best to you and to everyone entering CTC I 08. GOOD LUCK ALL!!

Nuori84
12-28-2007, 10:43 PM
It could say statistically that candidates who visit this board are more informed, and therefore more likely to navigate the hiring gauntlet successfully. Someone should do a study. :biggrin:

Congratulations out to all those whom have been successful! Good Luck!


Good point.

Personally, I have a good friend out of the Calinga office and he pretty much told me everything and mentored me. I happened to stumble upon this site via a link from another law enforcement board a day late and a dollar short.

Chipper745
12-29-2007, 08:39 AM
Question of anyone who is, or has recently attended the Academy.....

Does the CHP allow the use of personal recording devices? ex, recording lectures for study.

Thank you..

AaeJae
12-29-2007, 10:36 AM
Question of anyone who is, or has recently attended the Academy.....

Does the CHP allow the use of personal recording devices? ex, recording lectures for study.

Thank you..

Having just graduated at the academy, I can tell you, no. Don't waste your money.

cal911gal
12-29-2007, 03:42 PM
Having just graduated at the academy, I can tell you, no. Don't waste your money.


Work on your note taking skills. Use a notepad while watching the news, try to take quick, condensed notes on each story.......it'll help!

User142434
12-29-2007, 08:06 PM
No CTC I 08 for me:mad: First, I found out that my medical papers got lost. I got that taken care of. Then I got a letter from SPB stating that I need to get 4 eye exams at 3 months apart. I had lasik 7 years ago but haven't and any eye exams since then. looks like CTC IV 08 for me :hitwall: Do I need inform my BI if I get a new job?

cal911gal
12-29-2007, 08:12 PM
Do I need inform my BI if I get a new job?

Yup

bcjack
12-29-2007, 08:41 PM
No CTC I 08 for me:mad: First, I found out that my medical papers got lost. I got that taken care of. Then I got a letter from SPB stating that I need to get 4 eye exams at 3 months apart. I had lasik 7 years ago but haven't and any eye exams since then. looks like CTC IV 08 for me :hitwall: Do I need inform my BI if I get a new job?

The safest thing you can do is keep your BI informed of ANYTHING that changes. If you think you need to ask someone if you should tell your BI, don't ask, just tell your BI.

redhead
12-29-2007, 09:03 PM
And now the moment I have been waiting for I get to add myself to the list. I got the phone call today when I went home for lunch. I am so excited I can barely stand it. Thank you everybody for all the support you have given me.
Nor-Cal, Congrats. Best of luck to you and every other cadet in I-08.

cg+fd2chp
12-29-2007, 09:04 PM
what if you have a military waiver in? Should I just tell my new BI when the process starts up again?

Jerminator
12-30-2007, 06:31 PM
Here is the final list for the dinner:
Jerminator x 2
TanAndBlue x 2
GHM x 2
Boston_Fan x 2
angelito4u x 2
UCLA04 x 1
203247 x 2
Cadet "X" x 2
Chipper745 x 1
sbchp x 2
Nor-Cal Hopeful x 2
JoeRodSac x 1
CHP2B x 2
Nuori84 x 1I have sent a PM confirmation with all the details to everyone that RSVP'd. If you are on the list and you didn't receive the PM, let me know.

See you in a week!!

spikerman19
01-01-2008, 11:27 PM
Does anybody know,or have heard what life is like at the Academy on the weekends for the cadets who can not go home.

Mom
01-01-2008, 11:57 PM
Does anybody know,or have heard what life is like at the Academy on the weekends for the cadets who can not go home.My son stayed a couple times. I believe you have to order your meals ahead of time. If you have a car, you can leave (you check out) and come back. My son did stay up there because no one would be home once, and that time, he checked into the Doubletree just to get some pampering (used the hot tub, watched movies, etc...)

There is a rec room at the academy. There is rumor of a television <g>.

Yzeman
01-02-2008, 12:13 AM
Does anybody know,or have heard what life is like at the Academy on the weekends for the cadets who can not go home.

You will have lots to do on the weekends, ie...homework, studying, etc. A little advise...Whenever you get the opportunity to leave the Academy grounds.....LEAVE! Don't get me wrong, the Academy is a beautiful place, and you will remember it for the rest of your life. Having said that...I liken it to Radiation; your body can withstand a lot of radiation, however when you reach a certain point, a simple x-ray of your little finger will kill you! Well, you can withstand a lot of the Academy, but there comes a point.......well, I think you understand:biggrin: Don't fall into the trap of thinking...I have to study anyway, I might as well just study here in my room. Take the opportunity to study somewhere else....hell, anywhere else, study at Mountain Mikes, study on the lawn in front of the Capitol, spend a couple bucks and study in the hot tub at a local Hotel.

That's my two-cents...there is plenty to do in and around the Sacramento area.:wink:

Nor-Cal hopeful
01-02-2008, 02:58 PM
So if CTC-II 07 graduated the 21st, then CTC-III 07 have had all of the staff's attention for around 2 weeks. I bet they can't wait for us to get there.:lol::lol:

Amber
01-02-2008, 11:17 PM
My S/O is in CTC III-07 and he told me that he is excited for monday morning to come... this was a first!!! I think the brown broccoli is going to his head!:lol:

cg+fd2chp
01-03-2008, 09:07 AM
fresh meat

chokolat_dream
01-03-2008, 09:31 PM
Hey Guys... congrats to all of you who will be joining our guys (CTC III-07) on Monday. You guys have come along way I bet and I just have one piece of advice to give: to some it might be a culture shock but just hang in there. Nothing says "You Suck" more than giving up. You'll learn to work together as a team but you have to hang in there long enough to establish the relationship. I wish you all and your S/O's the best of luck! Congatulations CTC I-08!!!

rayni
01-03-2008, 10:31 PM
:biggrin:So how is everyone?:lol: WOW!! CTC I-08 already? I wish you all the best & want you to remember that every time it sucks beyond belief that those who wear that badge you so desire had to go through the academy too!! If you all are going to orientation this Sunday try to bring the spouse/s.o. It's important to remember that those at home are going to go through this journey with you just a little differently. Whatever emotions either of you will have are perfectly normal!! I promise you that. Sure there are those super cadets who never uttered the words "I wanna quit" let alone thought it, but such is not the case for many!! It's a temporary training ground w/ a goal to make you the Officer you desire to be w/ CHP. From what has been said before by verified chippies The Academy & Break In aren't the job so keep that in mind. One last piece of advice & I'll stop playing Dr. Phil SAVE, SAVE, SAVE, & SAVE some more $$$$ anyway you can cause that last month is a doozie on the finances. I cut out the cable & other things like Starbucks for a while man was that rough!!! Talk everything out w/ your s.o/spouse about all the what ifs & the first couple weeks are all about adjusting to your new cadet life & then it becomes routine. GOOD LUCK & stay motivated , dedicated, & Ooh Rah!

Hwydog
01-04-2008, 01:16 PM
Sorry folks... no more offers for CTC I-08.

MP79
01-04-2008, 01:28 PM
How many ended up in the class?

Nuori84
01-04-2008, 05:47 PM
Thanks for all the words of encouragement to those of us (me) who will be reporting come Monday. Call me crazy, but I am totally looking forward to this new, life changing experience! :smile:

JohnKD
01-04-2008, 09:53 PM
So if CTC-II 07 graduated the 21st, then CTC-III 07 have had all of the staff's attention for around 2 weeks. I bet they can't wait for us to get there.:lol::lol:

I have no idea what you're talking about :neutral:.

here2serve
01-05-2008, 11:35 AM
So if CTC-II 07 graduated the 21st, then CTC-III 07 have had all of the staff's attention for around 2 weeks. I bet they can't wait for us to get there.:lol::lol:

Yes and YES!!

Mom
01-06-2008, 11:32 AM
Congrats to all the incoming CTC I-08 cadets. Most should be at the orientation this morning. Tomorrow will be here before you know it. Only 27 weeks to go. Don't let anyone get between you and your badge. Remember, you are a team. Pull together and make this happen. You may be able to run forever, so pick up the teammate who has problems and help them. You may have problems with spelling, find someone who can help you. The only one that can make this happen or make this fail is you. Next weekend will be here before you know it, and so will all the homework.

Spouses, realize weekends are just an extension of the academy. Before, they may have had weekends off to do household stuff. Realize now, they will be exhausted and they will have a ton of work to do before Monday. Be supportive. This job is worth the heck you will go thru the next 9 mos. When you get the 5 minute phone call in the evenings, don't whine when they say "I need to go now". There is so much to do in the evenings, be happy you got the 5 minutes.

Eagl5
01-06-2008, 11:47 AM
Kinda building on what Mom said, don't freak out tomorrow, realize everything and I mean EVERYTHING done is done for a reason. Know that you are in a safe enviornment (even though you might not think so) an everything will be fine. Do what you are told and as fast as you can, and remember have fun. Its only 6 months, but you will build a lifetime of friendships and memories. Have fun be alert and see you in six months on the road. PS the food is great......:lol:

Mom
01-06-2008, 12:18 PM
Kinda building on what Mom said, don't freak out tomorrow, realize everything and I mean EVERYTHING done is done for a reason. Know that you are in a safe enviornment (even though you might not think so) an everything will be fine. They can't kill you, it's against the law.:lol: And there is a reason for everything. You may take it personally, but it wasn't intended personally. Try not to stand out. Don't be first, don't be last. And DON"T be the guy who asks a ton of questions at the end of the lecture......... But then again, except for the ones who took their computer today, none will read this till next weekend.

Enjoy the food while you can, training tables are still a week or so away....

Yzeman
01-06-2008, 12:25 PM
Kinda building on what Mom said, don't freak out tomorrow, realize everything and I mean EVERYTHING done is done for a reason. Know that you are in a safe enviornment (even though you might not think so) an everything will be fine. Do what you are told and as fast as you can, and remember have fun. Its only 6 months, but you will build a lifetime of friendships and memories. Have fun be alert and see you in six months on the road. PS the food is great......:lol:

They can't kill you, it's against the law.:lol: And there is a reason for everything. You may take it personally, but it wasn't intended personally. Try not to stand out. Don't be first, don't be last. And DON"T be the guy who asks a ton of questions at the end of the lecture......... But then again, except for the ones who took their computer today, none will read this till next weekend.

Enjoy the food while you can, training tables are still a week or so away....

+1

cg+fd2chp
01-06-2008, 03:10 PM
congrats on making it and hang in there !

AFtoCHPHopefully
01-06-2008, 07:37 PM
Good luck to all the new Cadets of CTC I 08. Keep your head’s up and keep your eye’s on the prize. There are many people who would do anything to be in your shoes right now, including me. Good luck and hang in there.

cg+fd2chp
01-07-2008, 07:04 AM
25m until they get their warm welcome :shock:

Mom
01-07-2008, 10:53 PM
Day One is done and they should all be tucked away snug in their beds.

Good luck to all!

Yzeman
01-08-2008, 12:17 AM
Day One is done and they should all be tucked away snug in their beds.

...as visions of Staff Officers dance in their heads! :biggrin:

cg+fd2chp
01-08-2008, 06:30 AM
what if a cadet had trouble sleeping?

:hitwall:

that would make it that much more fun I guess

OfficerWife
01-08-2008, 11:48 AM
Day One is done and they should all be tucked away snug in their beds.

Good luck to all!

...after a VERY long day :neutral:

G-Man
01-08-2008, 03:47 PM
what if a cadet had trouble sleeping?

There is no trouble sleeping there. The days are long and sleep is minimal, I was out soon after hitting the pillow (unless my roommate re-arranged the furniture on me :lol:). I have greater difficulty falling asleep at home.

Mom
01-08-2008, 04:06 PM
There is no trouble sleeping there. The days are long and sleep is minimal, I was out soon after hitting the pillow (unless my roommate re-arranged the furniture on me :lol:). I have greater difficulty falling asleep at home.I think they learn to sleep and sleep quickly. The difference between the Academy and Hell Week with the Navy Seals? The Academy is 27 weeks... (And they get a little more sleep...)

I think my favorite story from my son's time (on sleep at least) was the way they woke up every morning. The bottom bunkmake of the three, would sit straight up from a dead sleep, hit his head on the bar under the bunk, yell "OW", then the other 2 would wake up laughing. According to all 3, this was the morning ritual.

23112
01-08-2008, 06:36 PM
I think my favorite story from my son's time (on sleep at least) was the way they woke up every morning. The bottom bunkmake of the three, would sit straight up from a dead sleep, hit his head on the bar under the bunk, yell "OW", then the other 2 would wake up laughing. According to all 3, this was the morning ritual.

I guess we don't always hire the brightest! :lol: Just kidding--sounds like they had some fun while they were there.

Our ritual was always the same. The guy in the solo bed would hit the snooze once (or twice), then get out of bed. As he walked out of the room to go shower, the guys in the bunk beds would mutter...wake me up when you get back in from your shower. The guy in the top would drop down and say, "I hate this place..." I still have a nightmare every few months where I have to go back to the Academy as an officer because they forgot to give me a necessary class. :biggrin:

Mac
01-08-2008, 06:49 PM
...Our ritual was always the same. The guy in the solo bed would hit the snooze once (or twice), then get out of bed. As he walked out of the room to go shower, the guys in the bunk beds would mutter...wake me up when you get back in from your shower. The guy in the top would drop down and say, "I hate this place..."
My roommate and I always set the alarm 10 minutes early just so we could hit the snooze once and have a few minutes to bitch about how it sucked to get up that early! :biggrin:

rs
01-08-2008, 07:07 PM
shower in the morning? we woke up like 15mins before we had to be lined up outside for a motivating workout. that was just about enough time to do the shave and tooth brushing thing.

keep in mind i was of the school of thought that going to bed any later than 830 was an abomination and waste of sleeping time.

now that i think about it i think i muttered a few choice expletives every time the alarm went off too :lol:

PH3N@M
01-08-2008, 08:33 PM
Five down after two days.

Mom
01-08-2008, 09:05 PM
Five down after two days.:::sigh::::

Optimus Prime
01-08-2008, 09:36 PM
Ok so done posting on here haha... I can't ever seem to just voice my opinion with out getting it thrown back in my face... =( Take care ya'all! Be safe...

Eagl5
01-08-2008, 10:13 PM
I think they learn to sleep and sleep quickly. The difference between the Academy and Hell Week with the Navy Seals? The Academy is 27 weeks... (And they get a little more sleep...)

I think my favorite story from my son's time (on sleep at least) was the way they woke up every morning. The bottom bunkmake of the three, would sit straight up from a dead sleep, hit his head on the bar under the bunk, yell "OW", then the other 2 would wake up laughing. According to all 3, this was the morning ritual.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here, lets not compare the Academy to Navy SEALs training they are not even close. Come on now Mom getting a little outlandish. As a Marine, the Academy to me was not that difficult as far as the yelling by the staff officers went. I bet a Navy SEAL would look at our Academy and say hey cool 27 week vacation,, We dont make the cadets go to the river and roll around in 56 degree water then run back to the chow hall carrying a rubber zodiac on their heads. Is our Academy tough, sure, is it comparable to SEAL training or any Military training? Not even close.:evil:

Mom
01-08-2008, 10:25 PM
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here, lets not compare the Academy to Navy SEALs training they are not even close. Come on now Mom getting a little outlandish.I'm sorry, I was joking. I do have some clue as to the SEALs training.

greenhorn
01-08-2008, 10:37 PM
Five down after two days.
Was that a record? I wonder how many quit on the first day. CTC II-07 had no quiters for almost 2 weeks. We lost most of our cadets including myself to EVOC and scenerios. The academy was tough but I really loved it and I can't wait to go back for part 2. "HERE COMES THE PAIN TRAIN" :smile:

snowdog
01-08-2008, 10:54 PM
The actual number is 6 as of 11:00 Tuesday morning.
One more thing. You applicants have no business bashing any of those who left. You have no idea what they went through, what else was going on in their personal lives, if they were late invitees with minimal notice, how long they spent standing out in the weather we've been experiencing here or if they really just weren't prepared. This is why I stopped posting the numbers as they fell,,, too many "I'll never quit" types. Of course everyone goes in with a positive attitude but they all had their personal reasons for leaving.
Did their quitting affect you? Probably not so you should only worry about yourself.

Eagl5
01-08-2008, 10:58 PM
The actual number is 6 as of 11:00 Tuesday morning.
One more thing. You applicants have no business bashing any of those who left. You have no idea what they went through, what else was going on in their personal lives, if they were late invitees with minimal notice, how long they spent standing out in the weather we've been experiencing here or if they really just weren't prepared. This is why I stopped posting the numbers as they fell,,, too many "I'll never quit" types. Of course everyone goes in with a positive attitude but they all had their personal reasons for leaving.
Did their quitting affect you? Probably not so you should only worry about yourself.
OHH RAH.....Could not have said it any better.

Yzeman
01-09-2008, 12:52 AM
The actual number is 6 as of 11:00 Tuesday morning.
One more thing. You applicants have no business bashing any of those who left. You have no idea what they went through, what else was going on in their personal lives, if they were late invitees with minimal notice, how long they spent standing out in the weather we've been experiencing here or if they really just weren't prepared. This is why I stopped posting the numbers as they fell,,, too many "I'll never quit" types. Of course everyone goes in with a positive attitude but they all had their personal reasons for leaving.
Did their quitting affect you? Probably not so you should only worry about yourself.

+1...it is sooooooooo easy to watch from the sidelines, and explain how much better you would play the game....bottom line:

Suit-up or Shut-up!

...sorry if that sounds too harsh, but sometimes the truth stings a little.

cg+fd2chp
01-09-2008, 06:50 AM
I guess we don't always hire the brightest! :lol: Just kidding--sounds like they had some fun while they were there.

Our ritual was always the same. The guy in the solo bed would hit the snooze once (or twice), then get out of bed. As he walked out of the room to go shower, the guys in the bunk beds would mutter...wake me up when you get back in from your shower. The guy in the top would drop down and say, "I hate this place..." I still have a nightmare every few months where I have to go back to the Academy as an officer because they forgot to give me a necessary class. :biggrin:


An alarm clock is a lot more friendly than academy staff waking people up I imagine.

I wish I had an alarm clock in boot camp. I noticed people started to wake up on their own about 10 minutes before the "demons" would come in screaming.



HANG IN THERE CADETS

Mom
01-09-2008, 09:31 AM
The actual number is 6 as of 11:00 Tuesday morning.
One more thing. You applicants have no business bashing any of those who left. You have no idea what they went through, what else was going on in their personal lives, if they were late invitees with minimal notice, how long they spent standing out in the weather we've been experiencing here or if they really just weren't prepared. This is why I stopped posting the numbers as they fell,,, too many "I'll never quit" types. Of course everyone goes in with a positive attitude but they all had their personal reasons for leaving.
Did their quitting affect you? Probably not so you should only worry about yourself.Thank you Snowdog. I know I enjoyed knowing the numbers, but simply because I am a number person. I like to know percentages. But, I agree those who left, left for their personal reasons. We don't know if they thought they could do this with 4 days notice, if something suddenly happened at home, and this just didn't work out, or if the person was the light of mommy and daddy's eye and found out the real world was a little different. (The last I just don't feel sorry for.) CHP is not for everyone. Quitter is the wrong word. Hopefully, they find their spot in life. This just wasn't it right now.

Greenhorn, good luck on the second round.

cg+fd2chp
01-09-2008, 09:45 AM
I can see how a 4 days notice, if you aren't 100% prepared, can mess a person up.

Hwydog
01-09-2008, 12:09 PM
I wish we didn't have to give people short notice offers to the Academy. We make offers as soon as we receive the final clearance...usually psych, but sometimes med...and if we still have slots to fill and I haven't been directed otherwise, we keep making offers until the class is full. That said, any Cadet applicant can waive an offer to the Academy...you get up to three waives (on your third waive - just like a third strike - you're out and would have to re-apply), also we won't take someone turning down an offer as a waiver (strike) if the offer was made with short notice (within about two weeks) - so no one has to accept if they aren't ready - physically, mentally, or emotionally. Actually, with all the recruitment seminars and workshops, information from the background investigators, the EMPHASIS placed on the stressors of Academy life, and the shared fact that a lot of Cadets get (for lack of a better word) totally freaked out when a staff officer tunes them up on pick-up day, you would have to believe there weren't any day one suprises that were deal breakers for the Cadets. Granted there are always some untimely and unfortunate personal circumstances that may cause a Cadet to resign, but in my own little suspicious mind I tend to think most of the Cadet losses in the first couple of weeks are due to the Cadet just not really believing or minimalizing what they were told to expect - hence, begin firing sequence for the inevitable freakout...the fight or flight option has been chosen. I haven't yet looked at all the data from the last few classes, but from what I have seen, it doesn't look like a short notice offer is a common denominator in the early resignations.

Sorry, didn't mean to be whiny. To leave this post on a positive note I'd like to share the efforts of two of the short notice cadets in this class. One got an offer on Thursday. Out of state resident, had to drive to CA on Friday to get to a DMV so he would have the required CDL. One office was closed due to weather, so he had to continue his trek getting to another branch just as they were closing the door. He was able to just squeak in and was able to obtain his CDL. Another Thursday notice was provided to an applicant who still needed a final medical clearance...for which he had to drive over two hundred miles right through the teeth of the powerful storm that hit the Bay Area / Sacto on Friday. He was able to complete his med clearance and accepted his offer. This type of determination (when they could have easily declined this offer) is a positive reflection of individuals being prepared...and a willingness to do what needs to be done to achieve their goal. While the anecdotes were about two of our Cadets, I believe that all our Cadets have within themselves the same determination and focus...they need to find it and draw strength from it.

I gotta cut down on those 3X Espressos. :wink:

cg+fd2chp
01-09-2008, 12:35 PM
WOW, that is some determination there.

Awesome stuff

cowtown
01-09-2008, 12:41 PM
it really is awesome!! I was driving to Frisco that day and my suv almost turned over on the bay bridge!! The wind was blowin up a storm!:surprised:

Mom
01-09-2008, 12:59 PM
Actually, with all the recruitment seminars and workshops, information from the background investigators, the EMPHASIS placed on the stressors of Academy life, and the shared fact that a lot of Cadets get (for lack of a better word) totally freaked out when a staff officer tunes them up on pick-up day, you would have to believe there weren't any day one suprises that were deal breakers for the Cadets. Granted there are always some untimely and unfortunate personal circumstances that may cause a Cadet to resign, but in my own little suspicious mind I tend to think most of the Cadet losses in the first couple of weeks are due to the Cadet just not really believing or minimalizing what they were told to expect - hence, begin firing sequence for the inevitable freakout...the fight or flight option has been chosen. I haven't yet looked at all the data from the last few classes, but from what I have seen, it doesn't look like a short notice offer is a common denominator in the early resignations. I tend to believe the short notice isn't the "real" reason. I agree it tends to be more of a "fight or flight" issue. I think most here will say "I want this so bad, I will never quit", but until they are faced with "the freak out", they really don't know. My son was a short notice cadet. I know there were days the fight or flight instincts kicked in. I also want to say a big kudos to academy personnel who know when and how far to push, but also know when to say "You need to talk?"

I do think many cadets minimize what they have seen in the seminars and I don't think they are prepared. They take the "tune up" personally. This may be for the better in the long run.
Sorry, didn't mean to be whiny. To leave this post on a positive note I'd like to share the efforts of two of the short notice cadets in this class. One got an offer on Thursday. Out of state resident, had to drive to CA on Friday to get to a DMV so he would have the required CDL. One office was closed due to weather, so he had to continue his trek getting to another branch just as they were closing the door. He was able to just squeak in and was able to obtain his CDL. Another Thursday notice was provided to an applicant who still needed a final medical clearance...for which he had to drive over two hundred miles right through the teeth of the powerful storm that hit the Bay Area / Sacto on Friday. He was able to complete his med clearance and accepted his offer. This type of determination (when they could have easily declined this offer) is a positive reflection of individuals being prepared...and a willingness to do what needs to be done to achieve their goal. While the anecdotes were about two of our Cadets, I believe that all our Cadets have within themselves the same determination and focus...they need to find it and draw strength from it.

I gotta cut down on those 3X Espressos. :wink:I think more cadets have this drive in them, and I doubt these 2 were among the 6 who departed.

Hey, let me know where to send the Starbucks!!! I know one deputy, his morning drink is 6 shots in a "tall" cup, filled the rest the way with steamed milk.....

cg+fd2chp
01-09-2008, 01:50 PM
How are you treated when you want to quit?

Do they just sit you down, sign some paper work and your done?

cal911gal
01-09-2008, 03:29 PM
How are you treated when you want to quit?

Do they just sit you down, sign some paper work and your done?

Hmmm, I dunno. Maybe this is one of "those" things that is better left a mystery :badgrin:

cowtown
01-09-2008, 08:10 PM
i found this post while doing a search, its by: yzeman


Whenever a Cadet leaves the Academy prior to graduation, an 'Exit Interview' is conducted and this interview is placed in the person's package. After reviewing the person's exit interview, their performance while at the Academy, and the reason they are leaving, the Commander makes a notation whether or not the person is recommended for re-instatement (Not re-hire...big difference). If a Cadet leaves the Academy for something other than an injury or failing a test (ie...'Personal Reasons'), that recommendation is often 'Not Recommended'. What that means is if the person goes home...realizes they made a big mistake by leaving, and asks to be re-instated....the answer is almost always 'No'. If the person left due to a failure of some type...the answer is usually 'No' unless that person has taken steps to improve on their abilities in the area they failed (like a college english class if they were having trouble writing, etc...). Obviously, we are only talking in very general terms here....each case is looked at, and the determination is made on the case's own merits. That same person however is free to re-apply and attempt to be re-hired (after completing all of the tests, including the QAP). That road will not be an easy one as DW said earlier; now you must convince the QAP that you won't quit again.

Eagl5
01-09-2008, 08:42 PM
I agree with Hwydog, I think these Applicants do not understand or accept the fact that they are going to get yelled at and when it happens they look for mommy and or daddy. Not everyone mind you, but the ones who quit just are not cut out for this type of work. I would rather have them freak out and quit in the academy then when they are on the road and get themselves and other officer shurt because of their not be able to handle somone yelling at them. I tell all my applicants what to expect from the day I meet them and I make sure they understand why its done and to not take anything personal.

BunnyHunter
01-09-2008, 08:43 PM
They had 6 not show the first day and lost 6 by that night. Hopefully they can come together as a team and show the so's that they deserve this weekend off...lol!!

Eagl5
01-09-2008, 08:47 PM
They had 6 not show the first day and lost 6 by that night. Hopefully they can come together as a team and show the so's that they deserve this weekend off...lol!!
No they had six quit in the first 2 days. Thats it.

CHPwannaBE
01-09-2008, 09:42 PM
6 no shows!!! I can't believe this. I'd give anything to have their spot!

Eagl5
01-09-2008, 09:47 PM
6 no shows!!! I can't believe this. I'd give anything to have their spot!
As Snowdog stated yesterday, you do not know why these cadets quit, so you are in no position to say anything. Until you make it thru the hiring process, the academy and pin on your badge you have no place to talk.:evil:

CHPwannaBE
01-09-2008, 09:59 PM
What? Of course we don't know why they quit. They didn't make it that far to quit. It's just that it amazes me at how long the process takes to just get an invite. 6 no shows still seems like a lot; is this the average? How did they quit when they didn't even show? Anyways I will be there someday. If I knew why they quit I wouldn't have been so bewildered.

OfficerWife
01-09-2008, 10:02 PM
GitRDone,

Our BI told us exactly all of the things that you just mentioned, in our area orientation. I think it helped a lot. I know it at least helped me as a wife to understand why things are done the way they are (why the para-military, etc...) and from talking to my cadet, I know it has helped him a bit too. I am glad there are helpful B.I.s who want the cadets to be successful :smile:

Mom
01-09-2008, 10:21 PM
What? Of course we don't know why they quit. They didn't make it that far to quit. It's just that it amazes me at how long the process takes to just get an invite. 6 no shows still seems like a lot; is this the average? How did they quit when they didn't even show? Anyways I will be there someday. If I knew why they quit I wouldn't have been so bewildered.No, please reread GitRDone's post. There were not any no shows. The 6 that separated did so in the first 36 hours.

Even the no shows have a reason. CTC II-07 had 1 who showed up, paced in front of doors for a couple minutes, then turned and left. SnowDog told us a few months ago about an applicant who was half way there on the drive Monday AM, and realized he wouldn't be able to do it and turned around. Sometimes they realize at the last minute they just can't do it.

rayni
01-09-2008, 10:22 PM
What? Of course we don't know why they quit. They didn't make it that far to quit. It's just that it amazes me at how long the process takes to just get an invite. 6 no shows still seems like a lot; is this the average? How did they quit when they didn't even show? Anyways I will be there someday. If I knew why they quit I wouldn't have been so bewildered.

Weren't you going for Colorado L.E? What happened w/ that? Or are you trying out for both? Hey just eat some humble pie & re-read Git r done's post. I opened mouth insert foot about the "quitters" too, but realized I too put an opinion in when I really didn't get a bit of what those who resigned must of been going through. Why do you need to know WHY? If you are fortunate enough to make it through the academy gates that will be your chance to be bewildered.:wink: Same goes for break in too with new officers resigning after graduating the academy after 27 looong weeks. Life doesn't quit when you get the invite or graduate the academy. Too many personal factors to try to figure out why the no shows or resignations. As my husband graduated recently he has profusely thanked some of his Chippy friends for their service. Especially as break in is almost over for him it just gives him a new found appreciation for every CHP officer out there on the road. CHPWANNABE every applicant wants an invite to the academy, but even after all the NEON signs the CHP puts on paper or their website some really just don't like the reality of academy life. Tis life. Everyone has the I wanna be there & I wouldn't quit if I got a chance, but all you can do is worry about you.

Mom
01-09-2008, 10:58 PM
My son is probably going to roll his eyes at me (and SnowDog and a couple others may remember me now from CTC II-07 orientation as the family with the dog), but here goes....

We raise service dogs. The organization we work with trains every puppy born. They are raised thru the age of 18 mos by us. We teach them manners, how to go to stores, how to ignore distractions, etc.. Then they enter advanced training for 6 mos prior to being placed. Every dog enters "the academy", and then it is up to them to see if they have it in them. Some decide early they don't want to be a service dog and would prefer to be a pet and end up leaving early. Some decide that helping a person who is blind or in a wheelchair is too laid back, they want a lot of action, and they can head to Search and Rescue or to a drug detection agency. Not all the dogs the organization breeds will make it as a service, but that doesn't make them any less important. Each is given a chance, none fail, they simply change careers.

The State asks people to apply. From those applications, they test and rule in or out those that fit their criteria. They try to make sure applicants have a clue about the Academy, but it will never match reality. Then comes pickup day for the new cadet, and while everyone can sit back and say "I want this and I would never quit", you really don't know. Besides the issue of separating, they may also just not be able to do the job. For each of the six who separated, there is a specific reason. There will be some very hard days coming, and very possibly more separations. Each will be for a reason. They aren't failing, they tried a career change, and it wasn't a match.

cal911gal
01-09-2008, 11:09 PM
Well said Mom!

Yzeman
01-09-2008, 11:14 PM
My son is probably going to roll his eyes at me (and SnowDog and a couple others may remember me now from CTC II-07 orientation as the family with the dog), but here goes....

We raise service dogs. The organization we work with trains every puppy born. They are raised thru the age of 18 mos by us. We teach them manners, how to go to stores, how to ignore distractions, etc.. Then they enter advanced training for 6 mos prior to being placed. Every dog enters "the academy", and then it is up to them to see if they have it in them. Some decide early they don't want to be a service dog and would prefer to be a pet and end up leaving early. Some decide that helping a person who is blind or in a wheelchair is too laid back, they want a lot of action, and they can head to Search and Rescue or to a drug detection agency. Not all the dogs the organization breeds will make it as a service, but that doesn't make them any less important. Each is given a chance, none fail, they simply change careers.

The State asks people to apply. From those applications, they test and rule in or out those that fit their criteria. They try to make sure applicants have a clue about the Academy, but it will never match reality. Then comes pickup day for the new cadet, and while everyone can sit back and say "I want this and I would never quit", you really don't know. Besides the issue of separating, they may also just not be able to do the job. For each of the six who separated, there is a specific reason. There will be some very hard days coming, and very possibly more separations. Each will be for a reason. They aren't failing, they tried a career change, and it wasn't a match.

Thanks Mom, very well stated!

Here's an idea...let's move on to the positive aspects of the thread...give the Cadets something inspiring to read this weekend...just a thought :biggrin:

BunnyHunter
01-09-2008, 11:42 PM
Here's an idea...let's move on to the positive aspects of the thread...give the Cadets something inspiring to read this weekend...just a thought :biggrin:

My cadet was very happy tonight. I was feeling down and he actually cheered me up(I wasn't complaining and he didn't even know I was down). He was telling me how he is very happy with where he is at, even though it is challenging, he doesn't want to be anywhere else.

He did also mention that Friday couldn't get here fast enough :lol:. I guess the sleep deprivation is setting in.

CTC-I-08 is half way through week one. :biggrin:

BOSSLADY
01-10-2008, 12:24 AM
How many is considered a full class? I thou0ght that I had heard that the starting number has varied from different CTC's.

cg+fd2chp
01-10-2008, 06:40 AM
I bet it's the longest work week in their lives for most of them :lol:

Mom
01-10-2008, 08:09 AM
How many is considered a full class? I thou0ght that I had heard that the starting number has varied from different CTC's.I believe HwyDog had said they were shooting for 190.

OfficerWife
01-10-2008, 09:46 AM
My cadet was very happy tonight. I was feeling down and he actually cheered me up(I wasn't complaining and he didn't even know I was down). He was telling me how he is very happy with where he is at, even though it is challenging, he doesn't want to be anywhere else.

He did also mention that Friday couldn't get here fast enough :lol:. I guess the sleep deprivation is setting in.

CTC-I-08 is half way through week one. :biggrin:

Ditto here to what HopefulSO said about her cadet. Mine is still in good spirits, but looking forward to Friday...and so is his wife :)

On another note, he mentioned to me that they started with 172 invites, 6 were no shows and 6 quit. No one quit yesterday.

chpwife2b
01-10-2008, 11:31 AM
My cadet is also in CTC I-08. Everyday that he calls he sounds a little better. We talked for about twenty minutes last night and most calls have one thing in common: "I am sooo hungry." Everyone was right, it gets easier (for the So's I mean). He is very excited to come home and I am so happy that I have not heard the dreaded, "I want to go home"... yet.

Keep your spirits up Ladies two more days:biggrin:

OfficerWife
01-10-2008, 11:49 AM
Haha! Yes, my hubby says it's hard to get used the the "way" they have to eat too. Even though we'll have a ton of stuff to do (for him) this weekend, it will be nice to get away from camp snoopy.

SB 405
01-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Looks as if the Academy also has a class in creative writing.

chpsto
01-11-2008, 06:04 PM
You gotta be kidding me! I was up there a few weeks ago and heard that phrase but thought they were referring to the PFT or something like that.

I can understand why they would change a few of our favorite old terms from the Academy, but Pork Run? :rolleyes:


Uh I beleive the new politically correct name is the "challenge run":doh:

silverman10051
01-11-2008, 07:31 PM
23112, be honest, it is not an actual pig that is released. They make the most out of shape cadet strip down to his/her underwear and grease them up. That cadet whom ever gets the privilege has to avoid being handcuffed for 30 grueling minutes. If he/she avoids getting hooked up, he/she gets the corn dogs.

Seriously, that was the funniest poet I have read in a long time.

CHPwannaBE
01-13-2008, 10:40 AM
Weren't you going for Colorado L.E? What happened w/ that? Or are you trying out for both? Hey just eat some humble pie & re-read Git r done's post. I opened mouth insert foot about the "quitters" too, but realized I too put an opinion in when I really didn't get a bit of what those who resigned must of been going through. Why do you need to know WHY? If you are fortunate enough to make it through the academy gates that will be your chance to be bewildered.:wink: Same goes for break in too with new officers resigning after graduating the academy after 27 looong weeks. Life doesn't quit when you get the invite or graduate the academy. Too many personal factors to try to figure out why the no shows or resignations. As my husband graduated recently he has profusely thanked some of his Chippy friends for their service. Especially as break in is almost over for him it just gives him a new found appreciation for every CHP officer out there on the road. CHPWANNABE every applicant wants an invite to the academy, but even after all the NEON signs the CHP puts on paper or their website some really just don't like the reality of academy life. Tis life. Everyone has the I wanna be there & I wouldn't quit if I got a chance, but all you can do is worry about you.

Haven't visited this site in a few days and thought I should check back. :biggrin: As for Colorado L.E. yes I am currently testing with a few departments while waiting for CHP. I just took the written test for the sheriff yesterday. They graded them there and setup our Oral Boards as well. Out of state applicants have theirs this week and mine is the following week. Out of the 250 test takers yesterday only about 50-80 of us passed! Three sections math/reading comprehension/grammar. Each was graded separately. I am not looking forward to the OBs because you have to do it in a group of 5 other applicants. Discuss an ethical issue they give you then one person has to explain our resolution to the panel. Isn't this weird!?!?
Yesterday I went on a RideALong with an officer with the CSPD who used to be an officer with CHP. She worked out of the San Jose office and gave me lots of good advice and information about stuff I didn't know, and what it meant such as "Pork Run". If I recall correctly she worked 8 years out of San Jose and loved it, before relocating.

snowdog
01-13-2008, 12:19 PM
CHPwannaBE, I know exactly who you rode with. She and I worked graveyards several months and you were paired up with one of the finest I have ever worked with. She once refused to stop the car when I needed to use the little T.O.'s room very badly and laughed at me the entire time.
Good Luck, wherever you end up.

JackFlash
01-14-2008, 10:33 AM
How many came back after the weekend?

Mom
01-14-2008, 11:12 AM
How many came back after the weekend?Does it matter? It was a rough week for all. I hope those that decided it wasn't for them find what they are looking for, and those who returned gear up for another rough week.

JackFlash
01-14-2008, 11:38 AM
Does it matter? It was a rough week for all. I hope those that decided it wasn't for them find what they are looking for, and those who returned gear up for another rough week.

I thought the numbers was an interesting topic of conversation, my apologies if it is not.

Yzeman
01-14-2008, 11:52 AM
I thought the numbers was an interesting topic of conversation, my apologies if it is not.

JackFlash, please remember that every one of those 'Numbers' is a person who put a large amount of effort into being hired by the CHP, and decided the job wasn't for them. I can understand how some might want to follow the numbers....for whatever reason, but it's difficult to make sense of the numbers if we don't know the stories behind them, and we don't.

No apologies required...I think it's just more of a 're-focus' of the thread than anything else...:wink:

Mom
01-14-2008, 01:34 PM
I thought the numbers was an interesting topic of conversation, my apologies if it is not.
I understand, and I am another one who is number oriented. But I would also hate to be one who had to separate for some reason and come here to find everyone salivating to find out how many left. In a few days, they will post pics and a blog of the class. It will have how many started and how many were left at the end of the week. All who departed had a reason. They may not be sound ones in some opinions here, but they are to the person who departed.

OfficerWife
01-14-2008, 03:31 PM
I am obviously just a wife, not a cadet, but you just can't understand what the cadets go through until you get there. My cadet and I had been reading this site and had spoken to various people beforehand, but it just isn't the same as actually attending. You can get a basic idea of course, but there is a lot more to it and I am sure those who have separated had their reasons. I think just the fact that they made it through the hiring process and attempted the academy is commendable...just my two cents.

chpwife2b
01-14-2008, 06:14 PM
I am obviously just a wife, not a cadet, but you just can't understand what the cadets go through until you get there. My cadet and I had been reading this site and had spoken to various people beforehand, but it just isn't the same as actually attending. You can get a basic idea of course, but there is a lot more to it and I am sure those who have separated had their reasons. I think just the fact that they made it through the hiring process and attempted the academy is commendable...just my two cents.
I second what CadetWife said. Question: When do the cadet blogs usually go up??? I cant wait to see their pictures

BOSSLADY
01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
I am obviously just a wife, not a cadet, but you just can't understand what the cadets go through until you get there. My cadet and I had been reading this site and had spoken to various people beforehand, but it just isn't the same as actually attending. You can get a basic idea of course, but there is a lot more to it and I am sure those who have separated had their reasons. I think just the fact that they made it through the hiring process and attempted the academy is commendable...just my two cents.


I second what cadetwife said. Thursday, when my hubby called, he told me he got worked over. He said that he thought he was physically prepared but when it came down to it, he just wasn't. He was also worried about getting back into the study routines. Both of us haven't been in school for the past ten years. He had a few tests today and was a bit apprehensive about that. He admits that he just needs to buckle down and get his head wrapped around the fact that he will do it and do it well. It is very difficult but not impossible. Many are faced with very diffucult decisions and sometimes that includes leaving. Someone very close to us made a comment over this last weekend and it stuck with me. She said that when these cadets went through their backgrounds, the B.I.'s obviously saw something special and great potential in them and that is why they were given their invites. These numbers shouldn't be focused on. They all had their reasons, but it should be left at that. IMHO:tape:

MP79
01-14-2008, 06:26 PM
I second what CadetWife said. Question: When do the cadet blogs usually go up??? I cant wait to see their pictures

It seems to vary from week to week and sometimes they miss a week. They were more consistent when they first started the blog. :noidea:

Mom
01-14-2008, 06:35 PM
I second what CadetWife said. Question: When do the cadet blogs usually go up??? I cant wait to see their picturesUsually somewhere around Wed/Thurs. Depends on what is happening I think. They do one company a week. But at least you get to see what the company is doing. Once every 3 weeks, I'd see 2-3 pics of my son. People loved it.

Eagl5
01-14-2008, 09:46 PM
Coming from a background of whos college was the USMC infantry school, where the hardest course was to know which end the bullets came out, don't worry. As long as they pay attention in class and take notes its no big deal.

BunnyHunter
01-14-2008, 09:56 PM
I am not going to list numbers because it looks like the big dogs don't want them on here...but I will just say that they dropped more today. My boyfriend does not like to see them leave as they are already his brothers.

G-Man
01-15-2008, 10:07 AM
I am not going to list numbers because it looks like the big dogs don't want them on here...but I will just say that they dropped more today. My boyfriend does not like to see them leave as they are already his brothers.

Just look at it this way, each have their reasons for leaving. I would rather have someone figure out that this job is not for them during the safety of the Academy, then on the way to my 11-99.

BunnyHunter
01-15-2008, 10:52 AM
Just look at it this way, each have there reasons for leaving. I would rather have someone figure out that this job is not for them during the safety of the Academy, then on the way to my 11-99.

Yes Sir! I agree with you 100%.

Changing your mind there is a much better place than out on the beat.

Eagl5
01-15-2008, 09:13 PM
Just look at it this way, each have their reasons for leaving. I would rather have someone figure out that this job is not for them during the safety of the Academy, then on the way to my 11-99.

+1:neutral:

MP79
01-16-2008, 04:12 PM
The Cadet blogs have been updated, but the pictures have not been posted yet.

CHPwannaBE
01-16-2008, 07:40 PM
Atleast they updated CTC-3-07. Thanks to whomever takes and posts those pics. The cadet who wrote in the blog has a kickass name.

cg+fd2chp
01-16-2008, 07:52 PM
The cadet who wrote in the blog has a kickass name.
:lol:

Mom
01-16-2008, 08:00 PM
Atleast they updated CTC-3-07. Thanks to whomever takes and posts those pics. The cadet who wrote in the blog has a kickass name.Imagine if he makes it to Captain....

cg+fd2chp
01-16-2008, 08:16 PM
sounds like a super hero

Amber
01-16-2008, 10:39 PM
From what I've heard there are about 3 or 4 last names that are pretty kick a$$! :cool:

fearfam
01-16-2008, 11:09 PM
Atleast they updated CTC-3-07. Thanks to whomever takes and posts those pics. The cadet who wrote in the blog has a kickass name.

That's my husband! I often joke with him that I only married him for his last name. :smile: You'd be surprised how many people ask us how to spell it.

BunnyHunter
01-17-2008, 08:53 AM
Pictures are up :biggrin:

Soon2BeCHP
01-19-2008, 07:49 AM
Where can I find the blogs and see the pictures? :biggrin:

AFtoCHPHopefully
01-19-2008, 08:00 AM
Where can I find the blogs and see the pictures? :biggrin:

http://www.chp.ca.gov/cadet/08-I.html

These Blogs and photos are what keep me motivated day in and day out....