Repeat Cadets

[Mom]

I really hate the term retread... Anyway, I was curious what the statistics were for retreads. I know the reasons to end a class and restart can be numerous (resign, failing a test, injury.) Anyone have an idea what the chances are of someone who restarts a class being successful the second time?

[PapaBear]

Usually, the term "RETREAD" refers to an officer who has resigned from the department or retired due to injury. Later, they had a change of mind, applied for reinstatement and, depending on how long they were gone, attend the academy for a brief period to catch up on policy, law changes and get into physical shape. I suppose it could apply to a cadet who left for some reason and was reaccepted, but I have never heard it used in that context.

[snowdog]

"Retread" is a pretty common term in backgrounds referring both to reinstatements and cadets who are returning either from injury or after failing/resigning the Academy. I don't know any actual statistics but every retread cadet I know of was successful the second time around.

[Mom]

"Retread" is a pretty common term in backgrounds referring both to reinstatements and cadets who are returning either from injury or after failing/resigning the Academy. I don't know any actual statistics but every retread cadet I know of was successful the second time around.
Thank you. That was good enough. I was just curious if they tended to be successful the second time.

[cal911gal]

"Retread" is a pretty common term in backgrounds referring both to reinstatements and cadets who are returning either from injury or after failing/resigning the Academy. I don't know any actual statistics but every retread cadet I know of was successful the second time around.


Snowdog,
Curious specifically about cadets who fail/resign and then try to get back in. I've heard conflicting stories ranging from "you drop out, you never get back" to "all you gotta do is apply, they'll waive the written, PAT,QAP, and do a modified background".

I am guessing it's on a case by case basis, and I would "think" that to reapply is just that, you gotta go through all the steps again. Can you clarify for me?

Also, what's the percentage, if you have one, of those who reapply and get accepted?

I work with an academy cadet who resigned for personal reasons who is now talking about going back. While I wish this person the best of course, I'd like to stop all the speculation and give them a better persepective on what to expect.

Muchas gracias!

[snowdog]

I believe many considerations factor into how someone is reinstated. How far along they are into the Academy, what test they failed, injury, and what the Academy Commanders recommendation is. Sorry, but there is no clear answer and I don't know about percentages.

[dw]

Curious specifically about cadets who fail/resign and then try to get back in. You may hear conflicting stories because there is a huge difference between failing out on something and being told to leave versus deciding on your own to leave and resign. If you resign, good luck getting back. At the minimum, you have to convince a QAP you won't quit the second time around. If you truly fail out, your chances of reinstatement are better and you may have a shot at coming back through after you have remediated on your own.

[elprotectorchp]

You may hear conflicting stories because there is a huge difference between failing out on something and being told to leave versus deciding on your own to leave and resign. If you resign, good luck getting back. At the minimum, you have to convince a QAP you won't quit the second time around. If you truly fail out, your chances of reinstatement are better and you may have a shot at coming back through after you have remediated on your own.


So pretty much, if you residned and left on your own it would be very hard to get back at the academy? How about if one had a good reason such as being real sick and resigned?

[dw]

So pretty much, if you residned and left on your own it would be very hard to get back at the academy? How about if one had a good reason such as being real sick and resigned?Again, everything is on a case-by-case basis. What may be a good reason to you may be a good reason to the QAP. ...or it may not be.

[cal911gal]

Thanks Snowdog and DW for your info.

I appreciate you both!



Again, everything is on a case-by-case basis. What may be a good reason to you may be a good reason to the QAP. ...or it may not be.

[Yzeman]

Whenever a Cadet leaves the Academy prior to graduation, an 'Exit Interview' is conducted and this interview is placed in the person's package. After reviewing the person's exit interview, their performance while at the Academy, and the reason they are leaving, the Commander makes a notation whether or not the person is recommended for re-instatement (Not re-hire...big difference). If a Cadet leaves the Academy for something other than an injury or failing a test (ie...'Personal Reasons'), that recommendation is often 'Not Recommended'. What that means is if the person goes home...realizes they made a big mistake by leaving, and asks to be re-instated....the answer is almost always 'No'. If the person left due to a failure of some type...the answer is usually 'No' unless that person has taken steps to improve on their abilities in the area they failed (like a college english class if they were having trouble writing, etc...). Obviously, we are only talking in very general terms here....each case is looked at, and the determination is made on the case's own merits. That same person however is free to re-apply and attempt to be re-hired (after completing all of the tests, including the QAP). That road will not be an easy one as DW said earlier; now you must convince the QAP that you won't quit again.

[25/31]

Thank you. That was good enough. I was just curious if they tended to be successful the second time.


I graduated twice. :doh: Some things were bit harder in round #2. It was kind of like if you had to go to high school twice. I think I actually learned more during part 2.:biggrin: