PDA

View Full Version : Anyone for the Oct. 15 2007 academy


hondaman16
06-26-2007, 07:38 PM
Just wondering if anyone has received any news or has cleared for the October academy? I called CHU on Monday 10:03am lol in which I have just cleared my psyc. They told me that they will be sending out the invitations out late July.. Boy was I happy:razz:. Time to start working out even more:noidea:..
Thanks
Juan g.

TheForceCHP
06-26-2007, 08:00 PM
slow down partner... it is going to take a little longer until everybody starts talking about october

hondaman16
06-26-2007, 08:55 PM
Your right.. I'm just very excited. That all my hard work, college, etc and not giving up on chp when I was rejected from my psych 1 year ago.. I am looking forward to the fall. I am also selling my motorcycle because I wouldn't want to risk anything..
juan g.

Mom
06-26-2007, 10:12 PM
Just wondering if anyone has received any news or has cleared for the October academy? I called CHU on Monday 10:03am lol in which I have just cleared my psyc. They told me that they will be sending out the invitations out late July.. Boy was I happy:razz:. Time to start working out even more:noidea:..
Thanks
Juan g.Timetable says invitations shouldn't even be printed til mid Aug... Don't they usually go out 6 weeks prior? Maybe they are changing more stuff.

Nor-Cal hopeful
06-27-2007, 07:54 AM
I would love to get into the October class, but isn't that pretty far away?Well, if invites go out in August, there is no way i am getting into that one. So the very earliest i could hope for would be January. That would be ok, it would give me some more time to prepare.

gabriel
06-27-2007, 08:16 AM
At this point I want to get into ANY. I hate being in limbo... a lot of hurry up and wait! :cry::neutral:

Mac
06-27-2007, 08:48 AM
Timetable says invitations shouldn't even be printed til mid Aug....
Where did that information come from?

Mom
06-27-2007, 11:13 AM
Where did that information come from?
Let me rephrase... From the past few classes, invites go out 6 weeks prior to class. They are printed shortly prior to leaving. I would be very surprised if Oct 15 invites were going out in July. September 1, yes, July, no....

snowdog
06-27-2007, 02:03 PM
Where did that information come from?

I believe mom may have determined this from some of my previous posts. Also, I believe she is already part of the family and has more knowledge than the average poster. She is a keen oberever and correct. Normally the invites go out about 6 weeks before the start of a class but CHU is going to try very hard to get invitations out for CTC III-07 8 weeks in advance but again this will only happen if all the planets are aligned, there is not a full moon in early August and Paris Hilton observes the restrictions placed on her drivers license. Keep in mind that they have tried to do this with the past several classes but things just haven't worked out. I do know for certain that nobody will be receiving an official invitation anytime in July.

Take note mom, I learned something new today. I needed some clarification on the age requirement because I've seen it coming up more often than normal recently. What I learned was that YOU MUST NOW BE 21 TO ENTER THE ACADEMY. This change took place about 6 months ago and has nothing to do with firearms. It's really not worth going into the details here and now but this will be the standard from here on in. So those of you who are not yet 21 and have been wondering what the delay is, there is your answer. Now your 21st birthday will be even more special.

here2serve
07-01-2007, 11:23 AM
Just wondering if anyone has received any news or has cleared for the October academy? I called CHU on Monday 10:03am lol in which I have just cleared my psyc. They told me that they will be sending out the invitations out late July.. Boy was I happy:razz:. Time to start working out even more:noidea:..
Thanks
Juan g.

Nope, but I'm from the Central Valley too and I'm also hoping to make it into the October academy. I'll let you know if I hear anything....hope to see you there!

miguelg
07-01-2007, 05:04 PM
Just wondering if anyone has received any news or has cleared for the October academy? I called CHU on Monday 10:03am lol in which I have just cleared my psyc. They told me that they will be sending out the invitations out late July.. Boy was I happy:razz:. Time to start working out even more:noidea:..
Thanks
Juan g.
Wishing for October, waiting for CHU to clear :neutral:

Mxrider
07-13-2007, 11:48 AM
Can any of the Chippies verify to us hopefuls when they will be sending out invites for the October academy. I should be recieving a call to schedule my psych interview here pretty soon. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that October invite. How long do you typically wait after the psych interview before you hear if you passed? Thanks for the help.

Mom
07-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Can any of the Chippies verify to us hopefuls when they will be sending out invites for the October academy. I should be recieving a call to schedule my psych interview here pretty soon. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that October invite. How long do you typically wait after the psych interview before you hear if you passed? Thanks for the help.If you scroll up a few posts, you will see where SnowDog states they are trying to get invites out 8 weeks prior to class starting, which would make them going out about Aug 20th. They have tried this also with prior classes, but it was 6 weeks anyway. That would be around Sept 3rd. You can get an invite right up til classtime. Several of the June cadets received theirs as late as June 5th.

hondaman16
07-13-2007, 02:48 PM
When I called CHU, they told me they where sending invites by the end of the this month for the followings applicants who have cleared. You can call CHU.

snowdog
07-13-2007, 09:02 PM
When I called CHU, they told me they where sending invites by the end of the this month for the followings applicants who have cleared. You can call CHU.
I give up:hitwall: I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings as I have recently been accused of doing.:tape: At least I can say that I tried, and CHU thanked me for my efforts last time.

westcoast25
07-13-2007, 09:06 PM
Take note mom, I learned something new today. I needed some clarification on the age requirement because I've seen it coming up more often than normal recently. What I learned was that YOU MUST NOW BE 21 TO ENTER THE ACADEMY. This change took place about 6 months ago and has nothing to do with firearms. It's really not worth going into the details here and now but this will be the standard from here on in. So those of you who are not yet 21 and have been wondering what the delay is, there is your answer. Now your 21st birthday will be even more special.

That's weird that they changed it, I remember I was 20 when I went in...

Mom
07-13-2007, 09:54 PM
I give up:hitwall: I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings as I have recently been accused of doing.:tape: At least I can say that I tried, and CHU thanked me for my efforts last time.Um, if their feelings get hurt by someone on a message board...........

Snowdog, I appreciate all your insight.

Metallicblue66
07-14-2007, 02:22 AM
When I called CHU, they told me they where sending invites by the end of the this month for the followings applicants who have cleared. You can call CHU at***-***-****..



Not to be mean, as I myself am hopeful to get in to the October academy but you really shouldn't post that number for everyone to see. If someone asks you for it via PM that is one thing, but the whole forums don't need to know that number. CHU is busy getting everyone cleared who will be making into the October class, and having people from every step of the process calling them anytime they go through another portion complicates their job and makes getting our letters take longer. They will keep you informed throughout the entire process if there is any discrepancies. If you don't receive a DQ letter just keep waiting and they'll get in touch with you.

dw
07-14-2007, 08:14 AM
When I called CHU, they told me they where sending invites by the end of the this month for the followings applicants who have cleared. You can call CHU.

I give up:hitwall: I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings as I have recently been accused of doing.:tape: At least I can say that I tried, and CHU thanked me for my efforts last time.How about, as snowdog recommended, a little patience? DO NOT CALL CHU simply because you have a burning desire to know your status and feel you're more important than everyone else who is waiting anxiously. I waited for a letter. Snowdog waited for a letter. Most applicants in the process waited for a letter. What makes one person so much more important that they can inconvenience everyone else to find out their status?

If there are extenuating circumstances and you need to know what's going on with your application, I recommend contacting your BI first.

here2serve
07-14-2007, 10:02 AM
From post: http://www.chpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=33429#post33429
.. I have been accepted for the CTC III 07 class... WOOT!!

Have you received your letter already :shock:, or did you learn this from calling CHU?

(To those wondering...I'm not going to call CHU. I'm just trying to figure out if letters are going out already).

hondaman16
07-14-2007, 04:25 PM
I called CHU on June 25 11:00 am, I know for a fact there are 3 or more ladies that work the phones for CHU. I just basically told them that i had taken my psych. and that i haven't heard from them. THey told me that i cleared all the steps and that i would be getting an invite for the next class.. Basically if you don't get a letter from State board within 3 weeks I would feel confident for the October class.

snowdog
07-14-2007, 10:27 PM
I'm not giving up on chp when I was rejected from my psych 1 year ago..
I think I'll take my moms advise. "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.:tape:

I know for a fact there are 3 or more ladies that work the phones for CHU.
Ladies and gentlemen answer the phones. Do they all have access to the program that displays an applicants status? Do they each have a part in compiling the information required to determine who does or does not get an invitation? Do they each send out the invitations to upcoming classes? I know the answers, you obviously don't. Some folks just never know when to let it rest.
You never answered here2serve's question. Have you received your letter already (as you imply) or are you assuming you will receive an invitation? Don't answer for my benefit. I already know the answer. Will you likely receive an invitation? As long as you have cleared everytning, yes.

rayni
07-15-2007, 07:15 AM
I think I'll take my moms advise. "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.:tape:


Ladies and gentlemen answer the phones. Do they all have access to the program that displays an applicants status? Do they each have a part in compiling the information required to determine who does or does not get an invitation? Do they each send out the invitations to upcoming classes? I know the answers, you obviously don't. Some folks just never know when to let it rest.
You never answered here2serve's question. Have you received your letter already (as you imply) or are you assuming you will receive an invitation? Don't answer for my benefit. I already know the answer. Will you likely receive an invitation? As long as you have cleared everytning, yes.

"Here is a secret, you can be shady background and work for corrections then jump over to chp, I know people that do that..
my 2 cents..."

:hitwall:Remember this advise Hondaman gave not too long ago? Hey as for can't say anything nice well I didn't say that quote.:wink:

hondaman16
07-15-2007, 08:41 AM
Rayni here is the deal,
Maybe that advice that I said not to long ago didn't come out right. I should have giving an example..

Since 2004 when I graduated CSU Fresno I have researched many law enforcement positions. I knew I wanted to be in law enforcement since I was in grammar school. I know few former cdcr officers that I met in college who may not have had the best backgrounds to pass say "deputy, police, chp positions. They all did not meet the background requirements or failed a different step. While putting in there time in 2 and 3 years. Two of them work for a Local PD, and the other chp. I was thinking of going the same route for an entry level "juv hall" position since I did not pass my Psych my first time. But, I'm glad my friends and my BI told me to reapply. I know there are many officers like the one's I mention through the state. I didn't not tend to hurt anyone or give bad advice with my prior comments. Sorry if i offended anyone.

snowdog
07-15-2007, 08:41 AM
And with that, It's time to cut him some slack and wish him the best. Good Luck H-man.

miguelg
07-20-2007, 02:40 PM
I did as recommended, just waited. My case was recently reviewed by CHU, and today I received a call from an officer at CHU, telling me I had cleared for October! No letter received yet though. :smile:

Jerminator
07-20-2007, 03:04 PM
Congrats miguelg!! I hope to be joining you as well in October. If I do make it into the October academy, I'm sure I wont have much advance notice. I still have my final B.I., the medical and psychological left.

I was wondering if anyone knows how long it's taking now to get the psych scheduled. I heard there were only 6 doctors in CA qualified to perform these evaluations. My B.I. said it could take over a month to get it scheduled. Any input would be appreciated.

Mxrider
07-20-2007, 03:05 PM
Congrats miguelg on passing your final stage in the hiring process. I'm currently waiting patiently for SPB to call giving me an appointment for my psych interview. I'm hoping that I to can make it to the October academy.

here2serve
07-20-2007, 03:11 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows how long it's taking now to get the psych scheduled. I heard there were only 6 doctors in CA qualified to perform these evaluations. My B.I. said it could take over a month to get it scheduled. Any input would be appreciated.

My background investigator told me something similar (said it could be weeks or months before I got a psych date). I don't know if I got lucky or someone else cancled their psych or "other", but I got a call (giving me 3 dates/times to choose from) just a few days after my final background interview.

You can see the timeline in my signature for the actual amount of time it took in between each step of the process.

here2serve
07-20-2007, 03:14 PM
I did as recommended, just waited. My case was recently reviewed by CHU, and today I received a call from an officer at CHU, telling me I had cleared for October! No letter received yet though. :smile:

Congrats...hope to see you there!!

hondaman16
07-21-2007, 08:01 AM
Congrats...hope to see you there!!

Congrats miguel, no mames... here2server don't worry I feel a good vibe, just wait for your psych to clear..

Eagl5
07-21-2007, 07:28 PM
When I went through 11 years ago, I just took the test's and waited. Everybody needs to relax. Your letter will come when it comes. In my opinion, we coddle too many applicants now giving them seminars etc.. to attend. When I did it as well as many of my friends we did it ourselves with no help. Part of touchy feely highway patrol I guess.

gabriel
07-22-2007, 07:00 AM
When I went through 11 years ago, I just took the test's and waited. Everybody needs to relax. Your letter will come when it comes. In my opinion, we coddle too many applicants now giving them seminars etc.. to attend. When I did it as well as many of my friends we did it ourselves with no help. Part of touchy feely highway patrol I guess.

Were they needing as many people as they do now back when you went through the process? Perhaps thats why they're doing what they're doing, they want to give the applicants as much of a chance as possible to get through the process. I would think this also helps in the turnover rate. My dumb uneducated guess. :noidea:

Eagl5
07-22-2007, 03:35 PM
Were they needing as many people as they do now back when you went through the process? Perhaps thats why they're doing what they're doing, they want to give the applicants as much of a chance as possible to get through the process. I would think this also helps in the turnover rate. My dumb uneducated guess. :noidea:

It should not matter how many people we need as an agency, which is alot. What matters is getting qualified applicants which in turn gives us good cadets and officers down the line. If everything is handed to people, which most of the younger officers I have seen and trained then what happens when they have to reach down deep inside and deal with a hostile situation when there is no one there to baby them through the process?? They get hurt, or worse killed.

gabriel
07-22-2007, 04:07 PM
It should not matter how many people we need as an agency, which is alot. What matters is getting qualified applicants which in turn gives us good cadets and officers down the line. If everything is handed to people, which most of the younger officers I have seen and trained then what happens when they have to reach down deep inside and deal with a hostile situation when there is no one there to baby them through the process?? They get hurt, or worse killed.

Seriously though? Assuming you're CHP, it is your assertion that the new officers (talking about the ones from this hiring surge) have been babied through the hiring process? We can talk about this in private if you wish, I'm interested in finding out the reasons why you think that way.

snowdog
07-22-2007, 11:28 PM
Seriously though? Assuming you're CHP, it is your assertion that the new officers (talking about the ones from this hiring surge) have been babied through the hiring process? We can talk about this in private if you wish, I'm interested in finding out the reasons why you think that way.

What would make you believe that he's not being serious? What exactly do you mean by "this hiring surge"? We are constantly in a "hiring surge" mode. The only difference between one surge and another is the amount in the budget which determines how many we can hire at any given time. If you want to know if I believe whether we coddle some now, I would say absolutely yes.
But, it is unfair to say that every single applicant is coddled. A vast majority of them are squared away applicants who have their stuff together and subsequently make great Officer's. They would survive this process regardless of workshops, orientations, the internet, coaching or being forewarned of what to expect at the Academy. I would guess that many of those lurk here but are smart enough to lay low.
Then there are those who believe that their life experience (which really isn't different than most of us), education (a college degree does not guarantee common sense or street smarts), the fact that they passed one phase of the testing process makes them an expert on the testing process, and tons of research including participating in this forum makes them a better applicant.
Finally we have a fraction who attend every workshop asking the same questions each time because they are unable to grasp a simple concept the first time, attend QAP seminars but still appear unprepared for their QAP, just barely pass the PAT ( which we all know is a joke and difficult to fail but we have to give them a passing score), can botch their QAP interview but do just well enough to get a 70 ( job security for B.I.'s), have a drug or criminal history that would have disqualified them generations ago but not today because society now accepts it, get past backgrounds because an applicant who lacks common sense, life experience and street smarts can still advance if they've never had the opportunity to demonstrate they lack these qualities, have a decent Psych interview, not "nut up" while a Cadet because they understand that they are in a safe environment and constantly persuaded not to quit then graduate and sent far away from mommy and daddy.
And now, Cadets must be compensated for their long days ( I wish I would have received an overtime check or CTO), cannot be restricted for a weekend unless they fail an exam (whatever happened to weekend restrictions for disrespecting staff?), if you are restricted for a weekend they can only make you study during your restriction (I remember many classmates having to wash cars, scrub the floors, clean the walls and help "Joe" with his duties), staff has to be very careful of everything they say or term they use because we wouldn't want to offend anyone.
When they finally make it to the field they complain to the Sgt. because their FTO isn't being nice to them and putting too much stress on them, don't understand why they are being extended for not knowing the area and believe they are being treated unfairly because they have never been in that part of the state, can't understand why they should have to spend their RDO's driving the area but can't find time because they needed to take their girlfriend to Monterey for the weekend or she might get mad, are finally put into a stressful situation where they "lock up" TWICE ON CONSECUTIVE NIGHTS causing the FTO to become injured but someone with stripes, bars or stars decides the kid just needs a little more time because the office needs another body on the road.
So, are some coddled, or babied as you put it? Absolutely yes. But thats been going on for years. We just have the technology to coddle them even more these days. They can easily find out the telephone number to CHU and call anytime they please only to learn something that means nothing to them and won't make the process move any quicker for them. But why do they insist on calling? Because they are of the generation that demands instant gratification.
I'm not saying that any of this is easier now than before. In fact I know that some of it is harder and I wouldn't want to do some of the things that are asked of Cadets today and vice versa, but there is definitely a certain amount of coddling that goes on.
What makes you believe that anyone of us wants to have a private conversation with you to share our personal feelings or thoughts? Haven't you picked up on them already? If you have a question regarding the process, give us a call and we'll be more than happy to give you the answer.
Good Luck.

gabriel
07-23-2007, 07:02 AM
Interesting. I believe that as an applicant in the process there is a lot I could say regarding what has been posted, but out of respect for what you and other CHP Officers do and for the entire hiring process I'll refrain from doing so. I will say, that I agree with most of what you said.

Thanks

Eagl5
07-23-2007, 08:06 PM
Seriously though? Assuming you're CHP, it is your assertion that the new officers (talking about the ones from this hiring surge) have been babied through the hiring process? We can talk about this in private if you wish, I'm interested in finding out the reasons why you think that way.

WOW. I am sorry I did not post my career resume like some applicants post when they get this letter, or pass that test, or go to the bathroom. Yes, I am a chippie, before that I was a Marine, before that I was in high school. I have been on for 11 years and worked in LA and the bay area. I am a BI as some people like to write, I have been an FTO and even teach new FTO's from time to time. So that being said, it is a new generation, there is no sense of history by new applicants and cadets, no pride for those who have gone before them, or even those who have given their lives for this state and Department. I do get mad when I read posts on here from time to time from people who I percieve as whining because they have not gotten a letter. When I came on there was no internet, and the seminars where not really informative. I went to places called libraries and found out information about the patrol so I could be prepared for my QAP. I do believe there are two types of officers for this job, book smart people and street smart or common sense type people. I have trained both and the common sense ones are the best to train. Because for the most part they try and they learn. Snowdog is right about new officers complaining about why they can't have weekends off or holidays off, when he came on as well as when I came on, I was happy to have Mondays and Tuesdays off, and I understood I was a bottom feeder and had what was left over.

We do need qualified people and Gabriel I hope you make it through the process. But remember who came before you, learn the history of this department and respect it. Learn from your FTO's when and if you get to the field. I have had trainess call me dirty names, then turn around and say I was their best FTO. I'm mean, but I like to have my trainees get off break in and survive on their own.

Nor-Cal hopeful
07-27-2007, 10:06 AM
Gabriel, not to knock you or anything, but on this forum, you seem like you are the guy with all the answers. When you are confronted, you do a 180 and tell the guys that you agree with them 100 percent. It would seem like you are either a butt kiss, or spineless, or you just really have no clue what is going on, but like to talk anyway. If I were you, I would be really afraid to make it through the process. When you get there, I would think that the first words out of the staff's mouth is going to be "Who is gabriel?" and then ohhh stand by. I am sorry like I said, I don't know you, but when you have read countless posts, from people far wiser than you, saying to keep the posts to a minimum, and since march you have 370, It makes me think, that you have little to no common sense. We are all excited, I understand that, but there is very little info that you can give the rest of the applicants. That should be left to the big guys, who know the answers and are willing to give them, if the springer would quit raising his damn hand and interrupting. As much as you think you may know, I am sure that it is just a drop in the bucket compared to what is really going on. I am sorry if I offended you, but that is how you come across here. I am sure you are a hell of a nice guy. If this post is upsets the mods or anything I am sorry.

gabriel
07-27-2007, 11:38 AM
Gabriel, not to knock you or anything, but on this forum, you seem like you are the guy with all the answers. When you are confronted, you do a 180 and tell the guys that you agree with them 100 percent. It would seem like you are either a butt kiss, or spineless, or you just really have no clue what is going on, but like to talk anyway.

*sigh* - Or it could be that I am corrected and I learn and move on. You know, the practical way human beings in a learning environment think. But continue...


If I were you, I would be really afraid to make it through the process.


But you are not me, so don't try and think like me or speak for me.


When you get there, I would think that the first words out of the staff's mouth is going to be "Who is gabriel?" and then ohhh stand by. I am sorry like I said, I don't know you, but when you have read countless posts, from people far wiser than you, saying to keep the posts to a minimum, and since march you have 370, It makes me think, that you have little to no common sense. We are all excited, I understand that, but there is very little info that you can give the rest of the applicants. That should be left to the big guys, who know the answers and are willing to give them, if the springer would quit raising his damn hand and interrupting. As much as you think you may know, I am sure that it is just a drop in the bucket compared to what is really going on. I am sorry if I offended you, but that is how you come across here. I am sure you are a hell of a nice guy. If this post is upsets the mods or anything I am sorry.

I read this and I have to laugh man. You apologize to no end yet you continue to critize to no end with (as you've said) no knowledge of me, where I come from, who I am or what I do. You are entitled to your opinion and (as you've said, in my infinite wisdom) I let you think what you want to think. I have nothing to prove to you nor anyone else in this forum who is not an officer. I am here to learn and to try; because I know there aren't officers on this forum 24/7 sometimes for a day or two (understandibly so), to answer based on my knowledge of the hiring process the questions I think I have enough knowledge of. My only goal in life right now is to prove to myself and to the California Highway Patrol as well as the people of California that I can be a great patrolman and I have been told that not many people will be happy with this prospect, I never doubted them.

Cheers and best of luck with the process!

CGMK
07-27-2007, 02:22 PM
Nor-Cal hopeful and Gabriel, this is garbage. Take it to the PMs.

Nor-Cal hopeful
07-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Sorry. I deleted my last post. You are probably right. It wouldn't let me delete the first one. carry on.

elprotectorchp
07-27-2007, 02:50 PM
*sigh* - Or it could be that I am corrected and I learn and move on. You know, the practical way human beings in a learning environment think. But continue...



But you are not me, so don't try and think like me or speak for me.



I read this and I have to laugh man. You apologize to no end yet you continue to critize to no end with (as you've said) no knowledge of me, where I come from, who I am or what I do. You are entitled to your opinion and (as you've said, in my infinite wisdom) I let you think what you want to think. I have nothing to prove to you nor anyone else in this forum who is not an officer. I am here to learn and to try; because I know there aren't officers on this forum 24/7 sometimes for a day or two (understandibly so), to answer based on my knowledge of the hiring process the questions I think I have enough knowledge of. My only goal in life right now is to prove to myself and to the California Highway Patrol as well as the people of California that I can be a great patrolman and I have been told that not many people will be happy with this prospect, I never doubted them.

Cheers and best of luck with the process!



If Gabriel if your real name, good luck up in Sacramento.

gabriel
07-27-2007, 05:25 PM
If Gabriel if your real name, good luck up in Sacramento.

Right.

dw
07-28-2007, 02:06 PM
I have nothing to prove to you nor anyone else in this forum who is not an officer. I am here to learn and to try; because I know there aren't officers on this forum 24/7 sometimes for a day or two (understandibly so), to answer based on my knowledge of the hiring process the questions I think I have enough knowledge of.So what's the problem with waiting a day or two for an answer. As snowdog said, this is a generation who demands instant gratification. And does the fact that I've specifically asked you not to chip in and wait for someone with experience to answer mean nothing?

Why does any of this matter? Who cares what someone anonymously posts on some forum? Well, first off, many who think they're anonymous are not -- it's bitten them in the past and it will continue in the future. Secondly, police are rooted in fact for a reason -- it is our job. Not conjecture, not speculation, not what might be or could have been. We can sit around all day and figure out what crimes someone may be guilty of, but without evidence it goes nowhere. This part of our nature is expressed here in that we (I think I can speak for myself, Mac, Mentor, and Snowdog) don't care to read, repeatedly, about what our jobs are like from people with no clue. I don't want to read about the application process from those with no clue. And those who have been through the process as an applicant really have no better perspective on many of the issues discussed here than someone off the street. Yeah, you can share your personal experiences from the testing process - but that is all they are - personal experiences. You do not know how the process works or what goes into the decision to accept or reject an applicant. Most officers do not understand what goes into a T-Score (they have no reason to) and the vast majority of applicant's who speak of the mythical number don't take time to read the basis behind it (linked to in the FAQ, by the way). Yet they continue to compare scores. This leads into the "I'll ask someone" mentality of the current generation. If I don't know the answer, I'll ask someone else and assume they provide correct information. In some cases that may be the only solution, but for the majority it is simple laziness. As GitRDone said, do some research on your own -- don't expect someone to provide all the answers.

For what it's worth, I agree completely with what snowdog and GitRDone have said.

here2serve
07-29-2007, 03:19 PM
It is my understanding that Cadets are paid once a month. I presume that they are paid on the first of each month?

If someone was fortunate enough to make it into the October Academy, what day would they expect their first paycheck from the state (the 1st of December :shock:)?

I want to make sure I have my finances squared away in case I am one of the fortunate.

Thanks.

Mom
07-29-2007, 04:04 PM
It is my understanding that Cadets are paid once a month. I presume that they are paid on the first of each month?

If someone was fortunate enough to make it into the October Academy, what day would they expect their first paycheck from the state (the 1st of December :shock:)?

I want to make sure I have my finances squared away in case I am one of the fortunate.

Thanks.You should get a check for days worked in Oct on or about Nov 1st. Any OT will be paid on or about Nov 15. Your first full check (for the month of Nov,) less deductions for union and health care for both Nov and Dec will be paid on or about Dec 1st. Realistically, you won't get a "normal" paycheck til Jan 1st.

Good luck.

dw
07-29-2007, 06:50 PM
It is my understanding that Cadets are paid once a month. I presume that they are paid on the first of each month? State Pay dates vary a bit. You won't have direct deposit at the Academy, but it is available as an officer. The DD date can be the 1st to the 3rd, sometimes the last day of the month prior. Not sure if it is the same for a paper check, but the point is not to have everything set to be paid exactly on the first. As a cadet, you'll need a chance to deposit your paper check anyway.

here2serve
07-29-2007, 07:51 PM
You should get a check for days worked in Oct on or about Nov 1st. Any OT will be paid on or about Nov 15. Your first full check (for the month of Nov,) less deductions for union and health care for both Nov and Dec will be paid on or about Dec 1st. Realistically, you won't get a "normal" paycheck til Jan 1st.

Good luck.

Exactly what I needed to know. You referenced overtime, which leads me to one more question: Is there overtime at the Academy? I presumed any "overtime" would be considered "voluntary" time donated to the Staff out of the goodness of the Cadet's heart (ie. "Sir, yes Sir. I will gladly stay after class, well into the night, cleaning every inch of the class room because I spilled my water all over your instruction material").

State Pay dates vary a bit. You won't have direct deposit at the Academy, but it is available as an officer. The DD date can be the 1st to the 3rd, sometimes the last day of the month prior. Not sure if it is the same for a paper check, but the point is not to have everything set to be paid exactly on the first. As a cadet, you'll need a chance to deposit your paper check anyway.

I just assumed there would be direct deposit...thanks for the heads up about having to actually deposit a check!!

Mom
07-29-2007, 08:13 PM
I just assumed there would be direct deposit...thanks for the heads up about having to actually deposit a check!!No direct deposit, so you do need to do some planning. Let's say your check comes on the first, which we will say falls on a Monday, you will have no real way of depositing this or passing it on to someone who can until Wed at liberty (unless you lose your Wed, then it would be Friday.) One idea is to get involved with a credit union that co-ops with the CHP credit union, then you can deposit it at the ATM at the academy. (I'm not sure you can sign up with the CHP CU until you are actually an officer, or a family member of an officer, but I could be wrong.) A list of credit unions that co-op can be found here: http://www.co-opnetwork.org/public/index.cfm

Many of them only require that you live in the county they are in.

dw
07-30-2007, 07:49 PM
Exactly what I needed to know. You referenced overtime, which leads me to one more question: Is there overtime at the Academy?There is OT at the Academy, though it is planned from Day 1. As you mentioned, don't expect it to cover all the time you spend studying, etc... Should come to a couple hundred bones a month.

juiced4ever
07-31-2007, 08:37 PM
its a 135 dollars a month in OT.

rayni
07-31-2007, 09:00 PM
its a 135 dollars a month in OT.

Both amounts $222 gross & $135 net. This was a nice surprise since we were just happy that my cadet was getting paid while at CAMP SNOOPY.

here2serve
08-01-2007, 06:51 PM
There is OT at the Academy, though it is planned from Day 1. As you mentioned, don't expect it to cover all the time you spend studying, etc... Should come to a couple hundred bones a month.

its a 135 dollars a month in OT.

Both amounts $222 gross & $135 net. This was a nice surprise since we were just happy that my cadet was getting paid while at CAMP SNOOPY.

Even more info than I was looking for! Thanks!!

Mom
08-02-2007, 11:56 AM
Just saw the new class dates! Looks like CTC III=07 gets to have 2 weeks of quality time with the instructors between graduation and the new class!! Then again, it is Christmas and some of the instructors will probably be taking a well deserved vacation.

jjkings
08-02-2007, 07:26 PM
Just saw the new class dates! Looks like CTC III=07 gets to have 2 weeks of quality time with the instructors between graduation and the new class!! Then again, it is Christmas and some of the instructors will probably be taking a well deserved vacation.

Sounds good....? I think? :doubt:

USMC-5812
08-06-2007, 06:51 PM
I finished my process in June of this year. It took almost a year to go thru everthing for me. I am hoping to get a letter to CTC III-07, but as of right now I am still waiting. I was told by the local recruiter to wait until September for any word about who is going to CTC III-07.

hondaman16
08-06-2007, 08:12 PM
I finished my process in June of this year. It took almost a year to go thru everthing for me. I am hoping to get a letter to CTC III-07, but as of right now I am still waiting. I was told by the local recruiter to wait until September for any word about who is going to CTC III-07.


Great,
just wait it out and start working out lol..
Fresno Representing. woot!!

USMC8541
08-07-2007, 09:28 AM
Also finished up in June, 28th. Still waiting to see what goes down:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall::noidea:.

Eagl5
08-07-2007, 08:11 PM
OT in the Academy?? :hitwall: I was just happy to be there, we worked at night, weekends, holidays etc.... We had 4 days to get to our offices, they now get like what 6 months to report JK. :hitwall: Next thing you know they will cancel the night shoots, night drivng, so they don't have to pay cadets ot. Well, good for them, they will just reinvest it in the PX, anyone remember the Phone e pack?????

Semper Fi

Mom
08-19-2007, 01:10 PM
Paris Hilton mst be behaving... Congrats to those who received an invite this weekend! Now the panic begins!