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x MAIT
11-30-1999, 12:00 AM
What's important is that you disclose the citation when asked and on any documents you prepare. Problems arise when applicants do not disclose things, either accidentally or on purpose, and the BI discovers it during the investigation. If you have disclosed the park citation and describe all of the steps you took to provide the information, you will be ok. It all comes down to being thorough and honest.
uoplax13
12-18-2005, 10:29 PM
About a week ago I went to an applicant seminar at the Academy in Sac. The BI there said it might be a good idea to start getting stuff together (employment records, citations, etc...). I have most of my recent work history together (dates of employment, supervisor contacts...), and have sent letters to the ones I just don't remember. Does somebody like Social Security or the IRS or something keep track of employment info like that? I thought I had read a post about that a while back, and if some of my old employers can't find records I'd like to have a backup. Number two, for anyone that knows- If I had received a citation from a park ranger, where could I go to find a record of that? I sent a letter to the ranger district it was issued in, but I haven't heard anything back on it yet. Any thoughts?
Also, does anyone else have the pleasure (not sure which smiley guy represents sarcasm) of driving on I80 anywhere between Auburn and Nevada? I've probably seen at least a dozen spinouts and accidents since it started snowing yesterday. Idiots just won't slow down....but my SUV has 4 Wheel Drive....I can go 55 through chain control......argghhh.
undertow999
12-19-2005, 12:44 AM
As far as the work history information, you can get all of that through your closest Social Security Office. They dont have exact dates, but they can give you months and years. As far as a citation from the park ranger, I think what you are doing is a good step. All of my citaions where in the cities records building, so I am sure if you can go there they will have a copy of your citation. Otherwise, just get as much informtion as you can to help out your BI. The more info you give them, the quicker their investigation and the happier they are.
As far as driving on 1-80 just be carfeull. I think Hwy 50 is way worse this time of year, but nonetheless stay safe. Alot of people with 4x4 think that their vehicle is unstoppable when on the snow, just because it is 4x4. THose are the people, like you said, that you see sideways into a guardrail. WHen I lived in Sacramento I would take both 50 and 80 to Tahoe and into Nevada alot, and it is a real experience. Just be safe, and watch out for idiots on the road.
Also, does anyone else have the pleasure (not sure which smiley guy represents sarcasm) of driving on I80 anywhere between Auburn and Nevada? I've probably seen at least a dozen spinouts and accidents since it started snowing yesterday. Idiots just won't slow down....but my SUV has 4 Wheel Drive....I can go 55 through chain control......argghhh.
You mean I'm supposed to slow down? But the speed limit is 65, right? :rolleyes: Not only am I going to return my totaled SUV, I'm going to sue the dealer for the 4WD being defective! :shock:
Your Mentor
12-19-2005, 06:13 PM
UOPLAX13,
The USNPS maintains their own database. Nothing will appear on a DMV printout. The best thing is to contact the district ranger in the park you were cited.
uoplax13
12-19-2005, 09:24 PM
Thanks. I sent a letter out to them a couple days ago. Good to know I'm at least going in the right direction on that one.
Dipmo
12-19-2005, 10:24 PM
UOPLAX13,
The USNPS maintains their own database. Nothing will appear on a DMV printout. The best thing is to contact the district ranger in the park you were cited.
Some parks, like Yosemite, are starting to report their traffic convictions to DMV so that it will make it's way to the insurance company.
Kinda sucks, speeding in park used to be the perfect crime. If you paid the cite it went in the local file and was never reported further. The really harsh thing is that even with them reporting it now, you have to beg the judge for traffic school. The real dinger... no online traffic school, you're in for the whole day.
I think writing the district ranger in a good start. Was the cite in a national park? If it was i can ask around for you and get some solid direction for you as to how to get a copy of the record.
Good luck
uoplax13
12-19-2005, 11:00 PM
Yeah, it was a citation for a campfire in ELdorado Nat. Forest south of Tahoe. I wrote the district ranger office there, so hopefully they get me some kind of response- if anything I bet they could at least steer me in the right direction.
Your Mentor
12-20-2005, 09:09 AM
Sorry, Plax, I assumed it was a national park as well. I'm not sure about USFS but I can ask.
Dipmo, I bet I know why Yosemite is reporting to DMV now. The Deputy Chief Ranger there is an former CHP officer. I recruited him from USNPS back in 1994. He went through the Academy in 1996 or 97' and returned to the park service in 2002. He was teaching DUI at the Academy when he resigned. He's a very motivated LE ranger and was very active in the DUI/DRE program. Good guy. That was our loss because he'd have made a great supervisor and ultimately a great manager. Just a hunch . . .
KingFrankSam
12-20-2005, 10:51 PM
Sorry, Plax, I assumed it was a national park as well. I'm not sure about USFS but I can ask.
Dipmo, I bet I know why Yosemite is reporting to DMV now. The Deputy Chief Ranger there is an former CHP officer. I recruited him from USNPS back in 1994. He went through the Academy in 1996 or 97' and returned to the park service in 2002. He was teaching DUI at the Academy when he resigned. He's a very motivated LE ranger and was very active in the DUI/DRE program. Good guy. That was our loss because he'd have made a great supervisor and ultimately a great manager. Just a hunch . . .
He was my DUI instructor at the Academy for a short time. I liked his sense of humor. I heard that he promoted and is now working in Washington DC, pretty high up.
Dipmo
12-20-2005, 11:49 PM
Sorry, Plax, I assumed it was a national park as well. I'm not sure about USFS but I can ask.
Dipmo, I bet I know why Yosemite is reporting to DMV now. The Deputy Chief Ranger there is an former CHP officer. I recruited him from USNPS back in 1994. He went through the Academy in 1996 or 97' and returned to the park service in 2002. He was teaching DUI at the Academy when he resigned. He's a very motivated LE ranger and was very active in the DUI/DRE program. Good guy. That was our loss because he'd have made a great supervisor and ultimately a great manager. Just a hunch . . .
I'd bet your right about that. FYI, he has moved on again, this time to DC. You're right he's a good guy, and the park sure did take on more of a traffic enforcement role when he got back (I still remember when he was a ranger before the CHP).
Your Mentor
12-21-2005, 09:48 AM
I heard about his promotion and transfer. He's an NPS blue-blood. His father was the chief of Yosemite, Yellowstone, and eventually chief of chiefs. I met him when Death Valley grew up from a monument to a park. He was on a task force sent there for the first month. Man was he bored. A district ranger asked me if I'd take him on a ride along. We had a blast. I was sad to see him leave the CHP but totally understood. NPS made him an offer he couldn't refuse. He grew up in Yosemite, got married in Yosemite (I attended; beautiful wedding), started raising his own kid in Yosemite, and the job offer was like jumping from officer to captain overnight. I haven't heard from him in months. We should try to contact him and get him to join this forum . . .
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