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Soon2BCHP
12-13-2005, 09:23 PM
Well I have a question. With probably a long answer. I just had my QAP last Wednesday if I pass what comes next? And afterthat? And for those of you already in how long did it take you to go through it all before you got accepted to the academy? thanks fellas
undertow999
12-14-2005, 12:18 AM
Well, you will get a letter in the mail letting you know if you passed the QAP and what your score was. After that, you may get a conditional commitment to hire if selected. I received my passing score at the end of July, and was given a conditional commitment to hire offer at the end of August. I sent in the signed form, and haven't heard anything since. As everyone will tell you, this is not a very swift process. There are thousands of people, like yourself and I, wanting to get into the CHP more than anything. So it may take a while. I am not worried yet, because I know they received my signed form, and I am sure they will get to my packet eventually. Just get evrything together for your BI as soon as possible, because you never know when they will give you a call and need the info (birth certificate, transcripts for school, etc..)
Good luck, and stay safe.
SB 405
12-14-2005, 08:37 AM
undertow...I've read some posts saying at times the hiring process is switched into high gear to fill an upcoming class. I guess most people hurry up and wait but there are some who move through the process pretty quickly.
Soon2BCHP
12-14-2005, 07:16 PM
Cool deal fellas. Ima start getting everything ready. Yeah it is going pretty fast. in 2 months I have gone all they way through my QAP...I got another few weeks to go before I start getting impatient if I dont get anything in the mail.:lol: once you get the conditional commitment to hire and you sign and send is that guaranteeing you a job?? Im still kinda confused..
undertow999
12-15-2005, 12:20 AM
The conditional commitemnet ot hire ismade contingent upon the successful completion of the background investigation, med. exam, and psych screening. BUt even though you may get through all of the above, a job offer is dependant on department needs, so nothing is for certain.
FuelInjection09
12-15-2005, 10:02 PM
undertow...I've read some posts saying at times the hiring process is switched into high gear to fill an upcoming class. I guess most people hurry up and wait but there are some who move through the process pretty quickly.
I know an officer out of Moorpark that was hired and in the academy within 3 months after he took his written.
You have to be 21 by the time you graduate, and I am not aware of the Department ever making an exception, Mentor? I'd bet on you being delayed until the next class.
KingFrankSam
12-15-2005, 10:26 PM
You can not be a CHP officer unless you are 21. You will not be admitted into the Academy unless you turn 21 before graduation. You will have to wait.
FuelInjection09
12-16-2005, 02:29 AM
You can not be a CHP officer unless you are 21. You will not be admitted into the Academy unless you turn 21 before graduation. You will have to wait.
Yes, I'm fully aware of that. My point is that I told my recruiter that I would be willing to stay on campus an extra month as a cadet and continue training, possibly completing more courses for extra certifications and mentoring lowerclassmen. I have friends near Sacremento that will make staying up there a lot easier when I get weekends off. I'm just really anxious to start work, that's all.
HwyChaser
12-16-2005, 04:35 AM
Yes, I'm fully aware of that. My point is that I told my recruiter that I would be willing to stay on campus an extra month as a cadet and continue training, possibly completing more courses for extra certifications and mentoring lowerclassmen. I have friends near Sacremento that will make staying up there a lot easier when I get weekends off. I'm just really anxious to start work, that's all.
I am 99.9% sure you will have to wait one more class. They wont let you just hang out at the academy. Look at it this way, you are young (very young). Whats another 3 months? I only wish I could have started with the CHP at 21yoa.
KingFrankSam
12-16-2005, 07:00 AM
You can not be a CHP officer unless you are 21. You will not be admitted into the Academy unless you turn 21 before graduation. You will have to wait.
Yes, I'm fully aware of that. My point is that I told my recruiter that I would be willing to stay on campus an extra month as a cadet and continue training, possibly completing more courses for extra certifications and mentoring lowerclassmen. I have friends near Sacremento that will make staying up there a lot easier when I get weekends off. I'm just really anxious to start work, that's all.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't stay on "campus" an extra month. A CHP officer is sworn in and receives his/her badge on graduation day. You will have to be 21 before graduating. And please, don't call it a campus.:rolleyes:
FuelInjection09
12-17-2005, 12:55 AM
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't stay on "campus" an extra month. A CHP officer is sworn in and receives his/her badge on graduation day. You will have to be 21 before graduating. And please, don't call it a campus.:rolleyes:
Well, when it all comes down to it the academy is still a school at the end, isn't it? And stop repeating material I can look up in the pamphlets; I've read all of them twice over. :mad: The reason I asked was because my recruiters weren't even sure of the answer. Stop being so arrogant. :neutral:
Cameron
12-17-2005, 01:33 AM
Well, Fuel Injection, to be fair...
That was kinda a silly question. What do you mean, hang around the Academy an extra month? Cadets don't need any mentors- that's why they have CHP Officer instructors at the Academy. In addition, I wouldn't get too strung out about having to wait til the next Academy class. Go do something interesting with your life in the interim. Expand your horizons, take a course at a community college on something that interests you. Volunteer at a CHP office! :smile:
And the Officers on this site are here to help you. Horatio is an Officer in the California Highway Patrol, and he actually took the time to correct you on something that could get you yelled at when you end up at the Academy. The Academy is NOT a "campus," it is the training ground for officers of the State of California. Calling the California Highway Patrol Academy a "campus" is tantamount to calling West Point or Annapolis "a college."
It seems that you have a chip on your shoulder about being corrected by people. That won't do you much good at the Academy, Fuel Injection.
KingFrankSam
12-17-2005, 07:37 AM
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't stay on "campus" an extra month. A CHP officer is sworn in and receives his/her badge on graduation day. You will have to be 21 before graduating. And please, don't call it a campus.:rolleyes:
Well, when it all comes down to it the academy is still a school at the end, isn't it? And stop repeating material I can look up in the pamphlets; I've read all of them twice over. :mad: The reason I asked was because my recruiters weren't even sure of the answer. Stop being so arrogant. :neutral:
Good luck to you, FuelInjection09.
Well, when it all comes down to it the academy is still a school at the end, isn't it? And stop repeating material I can look up in the pamphlets; I've read all of them twice over. :mad: The reason I asked was because my recruiters weren't even sure of the answer. Stop being so arrogant. :neutral:
Well... Just a school in the end probably isn't the way I'd describe it, but hey...
FuelInjection, you said you're hoping to make the March class (or presumably, the May class because of the age issue) -- where are you in the process right now?
Dipmo
12-17-2005, 09:56 AM
[quote=Horatio]
Well, when it all comes down to it the academy is still a school at the end, isn't it? And stop repeating material I can look up in the pamphlets; I've read all of them twice over. :mad: The reason I asked was because my recruiters weren't even sure of the answer. Stop being so arrogant. :neutral:
Help me out; who is the arrogant one here? The officers on this board are here to help you through the hiring process (one which you have yet even begin) and yet you come across with the perceived attitude that you can't be taught anything. Knock the chip off (no pun intended) and pay attention. If an officer tells you not to call it a campus, maybe, since he has been through there and you have not, you should thank him for the advice rather than go into attack mode and call him names.
It's just a thought, good luck to you.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't stay on "campus" an extra month. A CHP officer is sworn in and receives his/her badge on graduation day. You will have to be 21 before graduating. And please, don't call it a campus.:rolleyes:
Well, when it all comes down to it the academy is still a school at the end, isn't it? And stop repeating material I can look up in the pamphlets; I've read all of them twice over. :mad: The reason I asked was because my recruiters weren't even sure of the answer. Stop being so arrogant. :neutral:
Horatio gave you the proper answer. Any officer here will tell you that the academy does not allow cadets to "hang around" for an extra month after graduation. I don't think he was arrogant at all. He was also correct that the academy grounds are not referred to as a "campus". The academy may be a 'school' in the sense that you receive an education there, but that's where the similarities end. You are employed, salaried and receive benefits as a Cadet at the academy, and you are there for a set period of time....not like a college "campus" where you can hang around for as many years as you wish.
There are a lot of very helpful people here who are a great resource for somebody trying to get hired....every Officer here has BEEN THROUGH and successfully completed the academy - not just read the pamphlets and talked to a recruiter - so you have the benefit of real-world, first-hand experience...but with an attitude like that, you're not going to get a lot of help from anybody.
FuelInjection09
12-17-2005, 06:33 PM
No, Cameron, I don't think my question was "silly" at all. There is no such thing as a "silly" question. Also, I never wrote that I was going to "hang out" at the academy for an extended time. I would be up there completing more course work and training to gain extra certifications and experience, as a CADET, not a sworn officer. After given some time to reflect, I believe that would actually be a very bad idea, because camp academy isn't a very pleasant place for non-officers.
Like I said, the recruiters don't even know the answer to my question, as of yet... so how could some of you have been so sure of the answer? I'm just anxious to know soon because I just finished my fall semester of college and I don't know whether or not to enroll for spring. Even the next academy class after March might cut my spring semester short; I'm just hoping I can get an extension if this will be the case.
As far as the part where I have "a chip on my shoulder about being corrected by people", I have to say you're dead wrong. It's actually quite the contrary. If I'm wrong about something, then I much rather be properly corrected, instead of continuing in error.
Help me out; who is the arrogant one here? The officers on this board are here to help you through the hiring process (one which you have yet even begin) and yet you come across with the perceived attitude that you can't be taught anything. Knock the chip off (no pun intended) and pay attention. If an officer tells you not to call it a campus, maybe, since he has been through there and you have not, you should thank him for the advice rather than go into attack mode and call him names.
If you think I'm attacking him and calling him names then you're mistaken. If you think I'm taking an arrogant tone then so be it. Welcome to debating, we're just going to have to agree to disagree, period. BTW, Horatio didn't have to roll his eyes at me. That's where he was being arrogant.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You can't stay on "campus" an extra month. A CHP officer is sworn in and receives his/her badge on graduation day. You will have to be 21 before graduating. And please, don't call it a campus.:rolleyes:
Well, when it all comes down to it the academy is still a school at the end, isn't it? And stop repeating material I can look up in the pamphlets; I've read all of them twice over. :mad: The reason I asked was because my recruiters weren't even sure of the answer. Stop being so arrogant. :neutral:
Horatio gave you the proper answer. Any officer here will tell you that the academy does not allow cadets to "hang around" for an extra month after graduation. I don't think he was arrogant at all. He was also correct that the academy grounds are not referred to as a "campus". The academy may be a 'school' in the sense that you receive an education there, but that's where the similarities end. You are employed, salaried and receive benefits as a Cadet at the academy, and you are there for a set period of time....not like a college "campus" where you can hang around for as many years as you wish.
There are a lot of very helpful people here who are a great resource for somebody trying to get hired....every Officer here has BEEN THROUGH and successfully completed the academy - not just read the pamphlets and talked to a recruiter - so you have the benefit of real-world, first-hand experience...but with an attitude like that, you're not going to get a lot of help from anybody.
I personally know a few officers, not only from the California Highway Patrol. I've actually been routinely present on patrols and call ups and have seen many horrifying things that most officers don't get to experience within their initial couple of years of work. I'm not some college boy that learns everything from reading a textbook. I'm hands on and I always help in police activities anyway I can; not just as an observer helping to shine a spotlight or running rollers.
I think it's very commendable that all you guys stick up for your fellow officers, even if they're in the wrong (I'm not referring to Horatio). But a couple of you guys need to mellow out, this is an online forum for Christ's sake. People are here to learn and that requires patience sometimes.
I greatly appreciate all of the advise given on this forum, and I sincerely enjoy hearing all of your life experiences. Thank you to every member for sharing.
FuelInjection, I'm still curious to know where you are in the process, because unless you're currently backgrounds, you will definitely not be in the March class. You said you knew an officer that made it to the Academy three months after taking the written class, and while technically something that quick may be possible (though barely and with a four-day background), it is very rare. Even with the current "push," six months from written to Academy is not going to happen for most. I would say eight to 12 months is the average right now.
Dipmo
12-17-2005, 08:09 PM
FuelInjection, I'm still curious to know where you are in the process, because unless you're currently backgrounds, you will definitely not be in the March class. You said you knew an officer that made it to the Academy three months after taking the written class, and while technically something that quick may be possible (though barely and with a four-day background), it is very rare. Even with the current "push," six months from written to Academy is not going to happen for most. I would say eight to 12 months is the average right now.
In looking at his postings it looks like he has the written on 01/07/2006. Looks like he edited the post with his testing dates so that it's blank now.
DESERT RAT
12-17-2005, 08:26 PM
FUEL check this link out it will answer your question! Why recruiters dont know this, is beyond me!
Here is a link to the CHP official website! The website addresses how old you have to be.
http://www.chp.ca.gov/recruiting/html/ofaqs.html
Here is a Quote from the site.
Is there an age waiver granted for special circumstances?
The only age "waiver" the CHP grants applies to active duty military personnel. However, even they must have taken and passed the CHP?s written examination prior to having their 36th birthday. They would be allowed to defer an academy date for up to eight (:cool: years while their military term is completed.
Entry age standards for Cadet, CHP, are defined in California Vehicle Code Section 2256. The law states in part, "the minimum age limit for appointment to the position of State Traffic Officer shall be 21 years at time of appointment (20 years and six months to enter the CHP Academy), and the maximum age limit for examination shall be 35." The Cadet, CHP, classification is the recruitment and training classification that develops successful candidates into officers. The California Legislature established the maximum entry age requirement, after considerable testimony on the job criteria of a California Highway Patrol Officer and the amount of time necessary to function at a journey person level. The Legislature felt the entry age was justified and needed to ensure maximum public safety as well as optimum safety to the officer. The mandatory retirement age is 60 years of age, as mandated by the California Public Employees' Retirement Law. For further questions, you may call 916-657-7202, Office of Public Affairs for the CHP.
FuelInjection09
12-17-2005, 10:27 PM
FuelInjection, I'm still curious to know where you are in the process, because unless you're currently backgrounds, you will definitely not be in the March class. You said you knew an officer that made it to the Academy three months after taking the written class, and while technically something that quick may be possible (though barely and with a four-day background), it is very rare. Even with the current "push," six months from written to Academy is not going to happen for most. I would say eight to 12 months is the average right now.
My written exam is on January 7th, and then the rest of my tests are all back to back, one day after another, at the very end of January. And yes, there is a huge push to get passing applicants in ASAP. One recriuter told me the average wait period is around 9 months, but there are sometimes exceptions. I'm still waiting to hear back, but I guess I'll just risk it and enroll for spring.
Thanks for the link DesertRat, I looked at that page a couple months back. I realize it's not possible to be sworn in anytime before I turn 21, but the question is if they will let me stay there as a cadet in constant training. I guess I'll only know after I talk to my BI, granted I pass the QAP. *fingers crossed*
Thanks
KingFrankSam
12-17-2005, 10:30 PM
No, Cameron, I don't think my question was "silly" at all. There is no such thing as a "silly" question. Also, I never wrote that I was going to "hang out" at the academy for an extended time. I would be up there completing more course work and training to gain extra certifications and experience, as a CADET, not a sworn officer. After given some time to reflect, I believe that would actually be a very bad idea, because camp academy isn't a very pleasant place for non-officers.
FI09, you're right, it's not a silly question. In fact, if I were you I would write a letter to the Academy Commander requesting a special graduation ceremony for you a month after your classmates graduate. After all, the counselors at "Camp Academy" are there for you. I really don't think that the written policy will be much of an issue, policies are just guidelines, not really hard and fast rules.
As far as the part where I have "a chip on my shoulder about being corrected by people", I have to say you're dead wrong. It's actually quite the contrary. If I'm wrong about something, then I much rather be properly corrected, instead of continuing in error.
Well, at "Camp Academy" you do not have to worry about "continuing in error". On campus, there is no right and wrong, only differing opinions that are all respected and given due consideration. Thus, there is no need for correction, although you will on occasion be given a polite coaching point.
If you think I'm attacking him and calling him names then you're mistaken. If you think I'm taking an arrogant tone then so be it. Welcome to debating, we're just going to have to agree to disagree, period. BTW, Horatio didn't have to roll his eyes at me. That's where he was being arrogant.
I apologize if my rolling-eyes emoticon offended you. It was totally uncalled for, and I was wrong. I can not blame you for forming the opinion that I am arrogant. After all, my harsh and flagrant display of emotion did convey a sense of overbearing self-worth and self-importance. Again, I apologize. Since I am unable to locate a "hug" emoticon, please accept this sincere smile as a token of good-will. :smile:
I personally know a few officers, not only from the California Highway Patrol. I've actually been routinely present on patrols and call ups and have seen many horrifying things that most officers don't get to experience within their initial couple of years of work. I'm not some college boy that learns everything from reading a textbook. I'm hands on and I always help in police activities anyway I can; not just as an observer helping to shine a spotlight or running rollers.
I must apologize even again. I spoke to you as if you were a mere citizen. I had no idea that you are a hardened veteran. You've been there, done that, and got the t-shirt. Thank you, sir. Maybe, in one of the "Camp Academy" discussion groups, you can be a guest lecturer, or even give pointers to the Enforcement Tactics team counselors. You may even be able to challenge the "Spotlight and Rollers" class.
I think it's very commendable that all you guys stick up for your fellow officers, even if they're in the wrong (I'm not referring to Horatio). But a couple of you guys need to mellow out, this is an online forum for Christ's sake. People are here to learn and that requires patience sometimes.
It's ok, you don't have to pretend that you were not referring to me. I was wrong, I admit it. And to those of you who stuck up for me, while appreciated, it was not necessary. Please, take FI09's advice and "mellow out", don't let me bring you down. Take a lesson from this young man, and show some patience. And don't forget, we all may be working for FI09 soon. He is sure to rise straight to the top.
I greatly appreciate all of the advise given on this forum, and I sincerely enjoy hearing all of your life experiences. Thank you to every member for sharing.
Thank you, FI09. And please, for those of us on the edge of our seats, share some of your life experiences. I think I am not alone in wishing you the best of luck with the remainder of the hiring process. Our department would be lucky to have you on the team.
Dipmo
12-17-2005, 10:43 PM
FuelInjection09,
I surrender to your seasoned debating ability. Good luck to you in your future endeavors.
Happy Holidays,
HwyChaser
12-17-2005, 11:04 PM
Horatio, stop it, you are making my cheek bones hurt!!!!:lol:
FI09, although you may have read the pamphlets a couple of times and have a VAST amount of experience. I really don?t think you have a very good understanding of how the hiring process or academy works. I?m not trying to offend you by any means, but your age is showing through a bit. I personally work with several background investigators and recruiters, but to tell you the truth they usually don?t know a whole lot more about policy at the academy than any other CHP officer. They do know more about the hiring process and procedure than an officer in the field.
By the way, it is highly unlikely that you have experienced more than an officer with 2 years in the field has. An officer with 2 years on in L.A. or the Bay Area has been on hundreds of accident scenes, written a couple of thousand tickets, seen dozens of deaths and had their hands in hundreds of arrests one way or another. You would be a busy guy if you could beat that in your 20 years of life.
You asked a question and got several straight answers. The sarcasm started when a bit of an attitude showed through in your posts. Ask questions, that what this board is for. Just don?t be one of those guys with a know it all attitude, especially if you make it to the academy.
I?ll answer your question one more time for you. You will not be able to stay at the academy or receive any extra training after graduation. Trust me.
FuelInjection09
12-17-2005, 11:10 PM
Thanks Horatio, even though I can?t help sense a bit of sarcasm. There was no need for an apology, it's not like I took it personally. And I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to *cough* Craig Peyer *cough* and some other rouge officers, that shall remain nameless.
I think I'll refrain from sharing anything personal from now on, because someone from the academy staff may be reading this and take my comments the wrong way, as disrespect. I know for a fact that brass monitors this forum. Hello brass, and Happy Holidays everyone! :biggrin:
FuelInjection09
12-17-2005, 11:50 PM
Horatio, stop it, you are making my cheek bones hurt!!!!:lol:
By the way, it is highly unlikely that you have experienced more than an officer with 2 years in the field has. An officer with 2 years on in L.A. or the Bay Area has been on hundreds of accident scenes, written a couple of thousand tickets, seen dozens of deaths and had their hands in hundreds of arrests one way or another. You would be a busy guy if you could beat that in your 20 years of life.
You asked a question and got several straight answers. The sarcasm started when a bit of an attitude showed through in your posts. Ask questions, that what this board is for. Just don?t be one of those guys with a know it all attitude, especially if you make it to the academy.
I?ll answer your question one more time for you. You will not be able to stay at the academy or receive any extra training after graduation. Trust me.
Well, it depends what area one's out of, and of course which department. I don't think too many new CHP Officers get to see double robbery homicides right off the bat.
I didn't get straight answers right away, just speculation. No one was 100% sure. I didn't mean to come off as rude, or with a know it all attitude. I apologize too.
BTW, EMT certification is now in standard training for cadets, right?
HwyChaser
12-18-2005, 12:04 AM
Some officers are EMT trained, but you only recieve EMR (first responder) training in the academy. We still carry the EMT bag in all units, and are trained to use the equipment (wich isnt much) but most officers are only EMR trained.
KingFrankSam
12-18-2005, 12:49 AM
Well, it depends what area one's out of, and of course which department. I don't think too many new CHP Officers get to see double robbery homocides right off the bat.
I didn't get straight answers right away, just speculation. No one was 100% sure. I didn't mean to come off as rude, or with a know it all attitude. I apologize too.
BTW, EMT ceritification is now in standard training for cadets, right?
No harm done, FI09. Just take your own advice. I can assure you that Academy staff monitor this forum. I can also guarantee, with 100% certainty, that you will not be admitted unless you are 21 by the time that you graduate. Sorry, it's just the way that it is.
EMT certification (not ceritification) is not part of standard cadet training. EMR is. The Department does offer EMT training to its officers.
By the way, it's homicides, not homocides. We may not see many homicides, but we can spell them correctly.
FuelInjection09
12-18-2005, 01:15 AM
:lol: Sorry, I was at my friend's Christmas party and decided to check in and post a quick reply. You can now sleep well knowing that I have corrected my grammar, professor.
Fish'nChip
12-18-2005, 01:30 AM
:lol: Sorry, I was at my friend's Christmas party and decided to check in and post a quick reply. You can now sleep well knowing that I have corrected my grammar, professor.
FI09, I must say you are at the least entertaining. You keep going back and editing your posts for some reason. Trust me, it is ok to be wrong. For example using the word "grammar." You're wrong again.
Per Webster's
grammar
1 a : the study of the classes of words, their inflections, and their functions and relations in the sentence b : a study of what is to be preferred and what avoided in inflection and syntax
I believe you meant "spelling"
spelling
1 : the forming of words from letters according to accepted usage :
Just a thought.
Seriously though, we all know you mean well and are very excited about the job. People have been giving you a hard time because of your personality on this forum. Like you said, you are 20 years old and trust me, we can all tell. Just slow down and think about what you say both here and throughout the rest of the hiring process (and that includes the Academy).
Fish'N C
FuelInjection09
12-18-2005, 02:31 AM
Round of applause. You must be very proud of yourself. Trust me, I realize I have a lot to learn; and, believe it or not, I'm looking forward going to the academy, granted I make it through the hiring process. To add to your statement, I don't "keep going back and editing" my posts. Recently, I deleted part of one on this thread, and several other posts on a couple of different topics, for a specific reason. I'm not trying to be a source of entertainment either. Although, some of you guys are probably looking forward seeing my ass handed to me at the academy as a result of this thread. You'll probably find that entertaining. :biggrin:shock:ubt:
BTW, welcome to the forum, very nice avatar.
...I personally know a few officers, not only from the California Highway Patrol. I've actually been routinely present on patrols and call ups and have seen many horrifying things that most officers don't get to experience within their initial couple of years of work. I'm not some college boy that learns everything from reading a textbook. I'm hands on and I always help in police activities anyway I can; not just as an observer helping to shine a spotlight or running rollers...
LOLOL....man, I'm checking out of this thread. Glad to see you've got it all dialed in - obviously no need for help from anybody here!
:badgrin:
Welpe
12-18-2005, 11:44 AM
Trust me, I realize I have a lot to learn
Reading your posts, one can easily come to an opposite conclusion.
bcjack
12-18-2005, 04:08 PM
FI09:
Just a friendly suggestion...
Surrender now!!! There is no way in the world you will be able to out-brain or out-experience the folks on this site...There is just too much experience and too much real world knowledge for you to out duel them...
If you are really serious about becoming a CHP Officer (And joining a very professional family)...LISTEN 99.9% of the time, and speak 0.1% of the time and you just might make it...
Good luck and I hope you are successful in your quest to become a CHP Officer...:biggrin:
FuelInjection09
12-18-2005, 04:35 PM
I think I just had an epiphany.
Soon2BCHP
12-18-2005, 09:43 PM
Woah looks like my question turned into one helluva discussion. LMAO. First things first. FuelInjection, I would like to know how you managed to expedite what takes the vast majority of us about 1 year into 3 months? I myself just got outa the service, served in OSW, OEF and am an OIF Vet. So I would like to know how you got that priviladged....??? (I know theres some spelling errors...)
And my question still hasnt really been answered. LOL.
FuelInjection09
12-19-2005, 03:11 AM
Woah looks like my question turned into one helluva discussion. LMAO. First things first. FuelInjection, I would like to know how you managed to expedite what takes the vast majority of us about 1 year into 3 months? I myself just got outa the service, served in OSW, OEF and am an OIF Vet. So I would like to know how you got that priviladged....??? (I know theres some spelling errors...)
And my question still hasnt really been answered. LOL.
Hey, I was wondering when you were going to check back in! Sorry for hijacking your thread. It wasn't my intention to start an huge argument and have a half dozen or so people gang up on me.
To fully answer your question, you should be waiting for your QAP results in the mail; possibly followed by a commitment to hire letter if you score high enough, along with some paperwork to sign there after. Upon mailing that in, you should be hearing from a background investigator (might take a while for them to call). You'll have an interview and he/she will check your work records, taxes, history, academic transcripts, proof of graduation, proof you're a US citizen, criminal background, and even make personal appearances at your work, talk to your neighbors, and so on. The BI is obviously looking for any discrepancies that might be an issue with your abilities of being a successful CHP officer. If that's all fine and dandy, you probably won't hear anything from them, unless you're disqualified. After the BI, don't be surprised if one day you abruptly get a letter in the mail inviting you up to the academy to start training. Be aware that you might get notification just 2 weeks prior to your academy date, maybe even sooner. So be prepared to tie up all your loose ends back home and say goodbye to everyone, because you'll be gone for around six and a half months. Don't quote me on that though, since I'm not qualified to give you a proper answer. Being that the only thing I know about law enforcement is how to hold a flashlight, and run a roller if need be while I sit in the car. :lol:
As far as to how I plan on getting in, don't worry about my personal affairs. Also, regarding Horatio's remark, "And don't forget, we all may be working for FI09 soon. He is sure to rise straight to the top," I have a feeling his prediction might come back to haunt him. I wish you and everyone else applying the best of luck. You can never achieve anything in life without putting out a solid effort. And officers, I pray you stay safe and keep alert. I have a great deal of admiration toward some of you. My participation on this topic is over.
PS, Soon2B, I don't mean to be a jerk, but please change your avatar, this isn't MySpace.com
redhead
12-19-2005, 11:39 AM
If that's all fine and dandy, you probably won't hear anything from them, unless you're disqualified.
Not true. When you BI is done, you will have an exit interview with them, and you will get more information on the academy.
After the BI, don't be surprised if one day you abruptly get a letter in the mail inviting you up to the academy to start training. Be aware that you might get notification just 2 weeks prior to your academy date, maybe even sooner. So be prepared to tie up all your loose ends back home and say goodbye to everyone, because you'll be gone for around six and a half months. Again, not ALL true. After your BI, you will be scheduled to take a medical exam and to do your second psych test, this time with a psychologist. About getting invited to the academy, your BI will be in contact with you as you're doing your final tests and you will have a good idea if you are going to the next academy.
Don't quote me on that though, since I'm not qualified to give you a proper answer. Being that the only thing I know about law enforcement is how to hold a flashlight, and run a roller if need be while I sit in the car. Since you have stated that you have read all the booklets many times, I think you should have known the above?
Fuller
12-19-2005, 12:22 PM
No, Cameron, I don't think my question was "silly" at all. There is no such thing as a "silly" question. Also, I never wrote that I was going to "hang out" at the academy for an extended time. I would be up there completing more course work and training to gain extra certifications and experience, as a CADET, not a sworn officer. After given some time to reflect, I believe that would actually be a very bad idea, because camp academy isn't a very pleasant place for non-officers.
FI09, you're right, it's not a silly question. In fact, if I were you I would write a letter to the Academy Commander requesting a special graduation ceremony for you a month after your classmates graduate. After all, the counselors at "Camp Academy" are there for you. I really don't think that the written policy will be much of an issue, policies are just guidelines, not really hard and fast rules.
As far as the part where I have "a chip on my shoulder about being corrected by people", I have to say you're dead wrong. It's actually quite the contrary. If I'm wrong about something, then I much rather be properly corrected, instead of continuing in error.
Well, at "Camp Academy" you do not have to worry about "continuing in error". On campus, there is no right and wrong, only differing opinions that are all respected and given due consideration. Thus, there is no need for correction, although you will on occasion be given a polite coaching point.
If you think I'm attacking him and calling him names then you're mistaken. If you think I'm taking an arrogant tone then so be it. Welcome to debating, we're just going to have to agree to disagree, period. BTW, Horatio didn't have to roll his eyes at me. That's where he was being arrogant.
I apologize if my rolling-eyes emoticon offended you. It was totally uncalled for, and I was wrong. I can not blame you for forming the opinion that I am arrogant. After all, my harsh and flagrant display of emotion did convey a sense of overbearing self-worth and self-importance. Again, I apologize. Since I am unable to locate a "hug" emoticon, please accept this sincere smile as a token of good-will. :smile:
I personally know a few officers, not only from the California Highway Patrol. I've actually been routinely present on patrols and call ups and have seen many horrifying things that most officers don't get to experience within their initial couple of years of work. I'm not some college boy that learns everything from reading a textbook. I'm hands on and I always help in police activities anyway I can; not just as an observer helping to shine a spotlight or running rollers.
I must apologize even again. I spoke to you as if you were a mere citizen. I had no idea that you are a hardened veteran. You've been there, done that, and got the t-shirt. Thank you, sir. Maybe, in one of the "Camp Academy" discussion groups, you can be a guest lecturer, or even give pointers to the Enforcement Tactics team counselors. You may even be able to challenge the "Spotlight and Rollers" class.
I think it's very commendable that all you guys stick up for your fellow officers, even if they're in the wrong (I'm not referring to Horatio). But a couple of you guys need to mellow out, this is an online forum for Christ's sake. People are here to learn and that requires patience sometimes.
It's ok, you don't have to pretend that you were not referring to me. I was wrong, I admit it. And to those of you who stuck up for me, while appreciated, it was not necessary. Please, take FI09's advice and "mellow out", don't let me bring you down. Take a lesson from this young man, and show some patience. And don't forget, we all may be working for FI09 soon. He is sure to rise straight to the top.
I greatly appreciate all of the advise given on this forum, and I sincerely enjoy hearing all of your life experiences. Thank you to every member for sharing.
Thank you, FI09. And please, for those of us on the edge of our seats, share some of your life experiences. I think I am not alone in wishing you the best of luck with the remainder of the hiring process. Our department would be lucky to have you on the team.
Wow! That has got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read! Thanks for the comic relief! Great discussion too.
If that's all fine and dandy, you probably won't hear anything from them, unless you're disqualified.
Not true. When you BI is done, you will have an exit interview with them, and you will get more information on the academy.
After the BI, don't be surprised if one day you abruptly get a letter in the mail inviting you up to the academy to start training. Be aware that you might get notification just 2 weeks prior to your academy date, maybe even sooner. So be prepared to tie up all your loose ends back home and say goodbye to everyone, because you'll be gone for around six and a half months. Again, not ALL true. After you BI, you will be scheduled to take a medical exam and to do your second psych test, this time with a psychologist. About getting invited to the academy, your BI will be in contact with you as your doing your final tests and you will have a good idea if you are going to the next academy.
Don't quote me on that though, since I'm not qualified to give you a proper answer. Being that the only thing I know about law enforcement is how to hold a flashlight, and run a roller if need be while I sit in the car. Since you have stated that you have read all the booklets many times, I think you should have known the above?
What redhead said is absolutely correct...
[quote=Soon2BCHP]
PS, Soon2B, I don't mean to be a jerk, but please change your avatar, this isn't MySpace.com
How 'bout you let me or the mods worry about avatars...
KingFrankSam
12-19-2005, 08:36 PM
As far as to how I plan on getting in, don't worry about my personal affairs. Also, regarding Horatio's remark, "And don't forget, we all may be working for FI09 soon. He is sure to rise straight to the top," I have a feeling his prediction might come back to haunt him. I wish you and everyone else applying the best of luck. You can never achieve anything in life without putting out a solid effort. And officers, I pray you stay safe and keep alert. I have a great deal of admiration toward some of you. My participation on this topic is over.
PS, Soon2B, I don't mean to be a jerk, but please change your avatar, this isn't MySpace.com
Is this guy for real? I am starting to think that someone is having a little fun with us. I may have to call my buddies down in 540 (where I spent a sizable portion of my career) and ask if any of them know this Alex (aka FI09) guy. He claims to live in the Newhall area and that he is friends with several of the officers there. He may be an explorer there. We'll see... If he's real, his BI should be monitoring this. I know a few Southern Division BI's as well... I hope he's just kidding.
redhead
12-19-2005, 08:49 PM
We'll see... If he's real, his BI should be monitoring this. I know a few Southern Division BI's as well... I hope he's just kidding.I think I read that he is doing the Southern Division testing in Jan., but he deleted that post. So, I don't think he is that far along. The next test date is 01.07.06 for Southern.
uoplax13
12-19-2005, 09:31 PM
I just hope I make it into the same academy class so I can face the wrath of the Staff Officers everytime he pops off to them..... I'm not an officer, but in my limited life experience I've learned that there are appropriate times to ask questions, voice opinions, not go along with the group, etc........and there are also times when you really should just shutup and soak in all the information you can.
FuelInjection09
12-20-2005, 12:46 AM
Is this guy for real? I am starting to think that someone is having a little fun with us. I may have to call my buddies down in 540 (where I spent a sizable portion of my career) and ask if any of them know this Alex (aka FI09) guy. He claims to live in the Newhall area and that he is friends with several of the officers there. He may be an explorer there. We'll see... If he's real, his BI should be monitoring this. I know a few Southern Division BI's as well... I hope he's just kidding.
Woah, I can't believe you posted something like that! Anyone with that power, that has any kind of pull, wouldn't announce such abuse in print online.
I have your IP address, and I saved this conversation for possible future reference. I'll be sure to ask around about you too. You're going against every point on the badge of honor that the CHP stands for. I admit, I was having some fun with this, and was planning to keep my mouth shut, but you stepped over the line. I'm truly appalled. Let me warn you, if I even get a hinky feeling that something is not right during ANY phase of my hiring process, then I'll immediately fax all of the above to your immediate supervisor, and to several people in Sacramento, including Mike Brown's office, and other, non CHP outlets. I will also forward a copy to my attorney, as well as file a formal complaint against you.
I'm starting to question now if I even want to become a part of this department anymore.
This is getting old..............................................( crickets chirping)
Your Mentor
12-20-2005, 09:39 AM
Okay, everyone take a deep breath and calm down. This forum is intended to aid CHP candidates in their pursuit of an Academy appointment and provide its members with a positive intellectual environment where we can share experiences and information. There is an appropriate disclaimer at the bottom of each web page. We encourage productive debate but discourage threats so lets try to keep this civil and professional. Dw, Mac, and myself have not had to moderate a thread yet because of the quality of posts and mature nature of the forum's members. Please do not post threats or, worse, take debates generated by the forum outside the forum. This forum is unique and unlike other forums in that we have avoided the verbal body slamming and maintained a positive, progressive, and informative venue. Please, as members, help each other learn and move forward. Don't use this forum to hurt someone; that would really destroy the concept and atmosphere we all look forward to participating in each day.
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