Switchblades for CHP officers?

[SERT DAWG]

Can anyone quote the penal code section, and chp policy section which allows CHP officers to carry automatic knives?

[KingFrankSam]

Nope, there is no peace officer exception for 653k PC. It is a common misconception that cops can carry switchblades.

[Your Mentor]

Horatio is dead on. We also aren't given an exception for carrying a dirk or dagger; which would include a fixed blade boot knife.

[AyatollahGondola]

Thank god! Wouldn't want to see one of those go off in an officer's pocket.

[E433035]

What's the CHP policy on blackjacks, saps and sap gloves?

[Flying Pig]

Im not a CHP officer.....but I dont believe officers anywhere in Ca. can wear sap gloves, carry saps or blackjacks. At least in 10 years as a cop...Ive never seen anyone carry them. There are many depts that allow nunchukas though. But unless your COMMITTED to practicing with the sticks of death.....youll hurt yourself more than the suspect! And trust me....thats not hearsay!!!!!:rolleyes:

[Mac]

....I dont believe officers anywhere in Ca. can wear sap gloves, carry saps or blackjacks. At least in 10 years as a cop...Ive never seen anyone carry them....
I still see deputies in our county carrying saps. We haven't carried them in over 20 years. I think sap gloves are a no-no for just about everybody nowadays. Most of the agencies around socal who went to nunchakus have abandoned them and gone to other options (ASP, collapsible PR-24, etc.). 'Chuks are a great tool if you're proficient with them, but like you said, they require a LOT more practice than other impact weapons!

As far as switchblades go, I've NEVER seen a cop with ANY agency who carried a switchblade or stiletto knife! Most of those 'toadstickers' are cheaply manufactured junk anyways.....I'd much rather carry a well-made combat folder.

[Chippysgt]

CHP policy on these items is clear but it is a policy issue involving enforcement tools and tactics and I am not comfortable discussing it in the open forum.
I am talking about saps, sap gloves and blackjacks.

The issue of switch blades knives should speak for itself. Most of them are crap that don't compare to the quality of buck knives or some of the well made tactical grade knives available today.

[themjnose]

I carry a fixed bladed "Cold Steel" on my belt, plain sight. Not against any law. Legally anyone could strap a sword to their back and walk around, as long as it is in sight. The Penal Code only mentions concealed on the person.

[AyatollahGondola]

I carry a fixed bladed "Cold Steel" on my belt, plain sight. Not against any law. Legally anyone could strap a sword to their back and walk around, as long as it is in sight. The Penal Code only mentions concealed on the person.
Walk around is about all you could do. Couldn't stop and go in just about anywhere. My memory tells me that most prosecuting attorneys treat the use of a knife as a defensive weapon with a great degree of skepticism. that probably doesn't hold true for LEO's, but anyone else would be better off shooting an attacker 5 or 6 times as opposed to stabbing or slashing them just once

[Smokey Bear]

As far as switchblades go, I've NEVER seen a cop with ANY agency who carried a switchblade or stiletto knife! Most of those 'toadstickers' are cheaply manufactured junk anyways.....I'd much rather carry a well-made combat folder.

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=2550

These aren't junk. And I have seen several officers and deputies in CA who carry them.

[Chippysgt]

Those do look like pretty well made knives. I have been away from the job for quite a few years.

Please quote the current law that gives California peace officers exemption from 653(K) PC.:question:

[Gittinready]

Those do look like pretty well made knives. I have been away from the job for quite a few years.

Please quote the current law that gives California peace officers exemption from 653(K) PC.:question:

there isn't that I know of. I bought that exact benchmade years ago in the hopes that I could someday carry it legally, only to find out now that I can't. Oh well, I still have a gun:smile:

[Chippysgt]

Which brings to mind the humorous cliche about "Never bring a knife to a gunfight" or "Meet my lettle fren.............":biggrin:

[knoxstar18]

Are tazers optional for officers while on duty or do the CHP not use them at all? I ask because in retrospect I do not recall seeing any officers wear them; in addition I don't believe the officer I did my ride along with even had one. Whats the deal chippies?

[dw]

Are tazers optional for officers while on duty or do the CHP not use them at all? I ask because in retrospect I do not recall seeing any officers wear them; in addition I don't believe the officer I did my ride along with even had one. Whats the deal chippies?http://www.chpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1088

http://www.chpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86

[themjnose]

Walk around is about all you could do. Couldn't stop and go in just about anywhere. My memory tells me that most prosecuting attorneys treat the use of a knife as a defensive weapon with a great degree of skepticism. that probably doesn't hold true for LEO's, but anyone else would be better off shooting an attacker 5 or 6 times as opposed to stabbing or slashing them just once


The Cold Steel double edge I carry is only for defensive measures. I carry a regular folding knife on one side and the Cold Steel on the other. If one is not accessible the other one readily is. If it comes down to it, and deadly force is the only option, my gun will be used as my priority weapon.

[kenny]

Ive seen a San Diego Deputy with nunchucks it was crazy to see

[AyatollahGondola]

Ive seen a San Diego Deputy with nunchucks it was crazy to see
Well if he really knows what he's doing with them it might be ok, but for those who haven't mastered them they are just about as dangerous for the user as the intended target.

[kenny]

Thats true but he knows how to use them He was on cops and did a demonstration at the academy

Well if he really knows what he's doing with them it might be ok, but for those who haven't mastered them they are just about as dangerous for the user as the intended target.

[idontthinkuheard]

BTW Love the thread...

The Cold Steel double edge I carry is only for defensive measures. I carry a regular folding knife on one side and the Cold Steel on the other. If one is not accessible the other one readily is. If it comes down to it, and deadly force is the only option, my gun will be used as my priority weapon.

I own several Cold Steel knives my favorite line are these http://www.coldsteel.com/folding-knives-voyager-series.html

They are fantastic quality, not cheap, but worth every penny. I cut out a door once with mine (doing some handy man work). (Voyager X2 is awesome - or the Vaquero equivalent)

So while on the subject if the situation led to an officer using his knife on a person attacking him, for whatever reason, this may sound like a weird question but eventually would the officer get the knife back?

The reason for the question is... a $10 folder from the swapmeet will do the trick and if in the rare case it has to be used won't be a $125 loss.

[CHPmotorkid]

I thought I would bring this thread back to life and ask what kind of knives do you carry while on duty? If any?

[codyg83]

I thought I would bring this thread back to life and ask what kind of knives do you carry while on duty? If any?

My favorite knife is a Kershaw. I like the Ken Onion designs. I use the crap out of them and they last.

[AyatollahGondola]

I'm waiting for the official issue of the light saber:biggrin:

[FlyWhiteGuy]

Ditto for Kershaw.

I always imagined rolling around on the ground with my right hand trapping my gun while the other guy is trying to pull it out, or being pinned on my gun so I can't get to it. Left had is free, knife easily accessible on left side, easy one-hand opening...

[HonkingAntelope]

How about the WASP injection knife? :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_NC-_fvKs

[LadyVol@330]

(You guys are scaring me!) http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/scared/scared0016.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/freesmiley.php?smiley=scared/scared0016.gif)

[TheGreenHornet]

I have a cool little Ka-Bar that has a holster which clips onto my velcro under belt. The knife it self is very solid, with a serrated blade that is about 2.5 inches.

[Motor City Cop]

I carry a Smith and Wesson with a 2.5 inch blade. It also has a seat belt cutter that doesn't require the blade to be unfolded to use as well as a window punch on the end of the handle.

[cjincognito]

I carry a State issued Smith & Wesson...oh wait a minute, you guys are still talking about knifes, huh?
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[Vinnie]

Gerber multi tool. The integrated knife is quite good. The needle-nose pliers, screwdrivers, and various other little things are quite useful when it comes to removing license plates, scraping off frauduluent tabs, or cutting a bumper free. Don't ever intend to use a knife as a weapon- I have other means when my primary fails.