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TahoeTex
12-10-2006, 10:52 AM
I'm setting this up as a thread exclusively for updates on CTC IV-06. I will update as best I can and I ask that all thread posters do so as updates only. Please don't ask the progress - we will update as we can. Any officers who wish to update, please do so as well since it may be a couple of weeks inbetween postings from cadets/supporting family members.

10 Dec - New cadets begins tomorrow, 11 Dec. 180 scheduled to attend. We will see how many make it in the rain. See you all there and best of luck to those aspiring - see you in April

One sleepless night to go until the countdown begins - 187 days to graduation and pin-on

uoplax13
12-10-2006, 11:21 AM
Thanks for starting up this thread... I'm not sure how much, if at all, we'll be able to post on here, but I'm guessing prospective recruits will find whatever we post informative, and maybe some of the officers will get some entertainment out of it. See the rest of you tomorrow. I've already packed and re-packed 4 or 5 times and it's not even noon......

WantToBeCHP
12-10-2006, 11:52 AM
Good luck all.

Dipmo
12-10-2006, 12:26 PM
I'm setting this up as a thread exclusively for updates on CTC IV-06. I will update as best I can and I ask that all thread posters do so as updates only. Please don't ask the progress - we will update as we can. Any officers who wish to update, please do so as well since it may be a couple of weeks inbetween postings from cadets/supporting family members.

10 Dec - New cadets begins tomorrow, 11 Dec. 180 scheduled to attend. We will see how many make it in the rain. See you all there and best of luck to those aspiring - see you in April

One sleepless night to go until the countdown begins - 187 days to graduation and pin-on




Good luck tomorrow, stay motivated.

Fire1
12-10-2006, 01:37 PM
Take the smallest bag you can. You'll be glad you did at the end of the morning.

bcjack
12-10-2006, 03:16 PM
To all of you starting tomorrow...I wish you the best of luck and take it ONE DAY AT A TIME!! The career you are embarking on is one of sacrifice and service. I believe in you all and expect to see all of you graduate...

rv13
12-10-2006, 04:01 PM
Take the smallest bag you can. You'll be glad you did at the end of the morning.

Should we just take a backpack or small bag with stuff we need for the day or for the week? Will we be able to get back out to our cars that night to bring in anything else that we didn't want to carry around all morning?

Thanks!

Fire1
12-10-2006, 04:29 PM
I can't say what you will or will not be able to do, but only take the basics. You only have to get through five days and then you can bring "anything" you want back after the weekend. Some classes have been allowed to go back to their cars during that week to get other items.

Slim
12-11-2006, 03:59 PM
I have a family member attending and have mentored him through the process. I'm looking forward to living vicariously through him, and laughing at him when he gets wednesday privledge taken away. Aw, the things of the academy that at the time sucked beyond beleif but years later you look back on them and laugh your ass off. Everybody has similiar stories, but all different. I will help to this thread going and offer any advice (as little as possible) to those in CTC 5-06. Some things just need to happen to weed out the weak.

I'm looking forward to the phone call later tonight to hear of all the activities. :razz:

IrishJoe
12-11-2006, 05:48 PM
So I?m curious?For any former/current military CHP officers out there, how does the academy compare to military Basic Training? From what I?ve heard, there are a lot of similarities, (?Day Zero?, early PT, etc etc). What ways are the different? Which would you rate as ?harder??

Cheers,

Joe

K-Lo
12-12-2006, 01:50 PM
Best wishes to all of you new cadets.

dw
12-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Down three in the first 36 hours.

Boomer
12-12-2006, 05:10 PM
Down three in the first 36 hours.

What for?

WannaBeaChippie
12-12-2006, 05:15 PM
Dang that really sucks...:biggrin:shock:ubt:

dw
12-12-2006, 05:17 PM
Down three in the first 36 hours.

What for?

Didn't realize how hard it would be / not prepared physically or mentally.

KingFrankSam
12-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Down three in the first 36 hours.

Four down now...

mremmaye
12-12-2006, 07:12 PM
Does any know the number of cadets that started this Monday?

mb116
12-12-2006, 09:56 PM
Does any know the number of cadets that started this Monday?

I'm not completely positive, but I believe it was full at 180. Two weeks prior to Dec 11th my BI told me it should be full within a couple days.

CHPUSMC
12-13-2006, 09:18 AM
Does any know the number of cadets that started this Monday?

I'm not completely positive, but I believe it was full at 180. Two weeks prior to Dec 11th my BI told me it should be full within a couple days.

I ran into my BI on Thursday before the academy and a mini mart. He told me that the day prior that he was at the cadet hiring unit and the Sgt there was on the phone doing a late invite for a female canidate, who waived her position for the Dec11th academyfor then April 2nd one.

HippieChip
12-13-2006, 02:33 PM
Does any know the number of cadets that started this Monday?

I'm not completely positive, but I believe it was full at 180. Two weeks prior to Dec 11th my BI told me it should be full within a couple days.

180 started the Academy officially December 11th.

mremmaye
12-14-2006, 07:08 PM
HippieChip thanks for the info.

MissK
12-15-2006, 09:44 AM
My husband called me, he's in the CTC IV-06 and said it was / has been a brutal week. He was prepared for the PT, but wishes he did more to prepare himself. Needless to say, I will be bringing home a lot of stuff after visiting him for the 1st time.

Good Luck to all of you in the IV class. I hope to hear more from my husband when I talk to him next.

Congrats for making it through the 1st week.

Katy

TahoeTex
12-15-2006, 09:58 PM
As of 1630 hrs today, we are down 8 to 172. First week was tough but it's over and 26 more tough weeks to go.

Thanks for the support all - keep it up - all of us cadets need it

CTC IV-06 - MOTIVATED DEDICATED OOHRAH

paulmc71
12-16-2006, 09:50 AM
Hey everyone

I am also in CTC IV-06. We just finished week one and I will tell everyone this...

IT IS THE MOST REWARDING THING I HAVE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE.

The camaraderie is amazing! It's mentally tough, physically tough but it is worth every bit.

Those going through the process, all the waiting, all the doubting, all the wondering if your good enough. When you get there and you don't quit and accept what your going through and understand that the people to your front, back, left, and right are going through the exact same thing.

You Get Each Other Through !!!!

I am not embarrased at all to tell you how many times I got choked up everytime that I was reminded how many people do Not make to the academy.

Is it tough? Is it hard? yes:confused:

what do you do to prepare? everything thing you can.

will it be enough? probably not

is it worth it? YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES and YES

:shock: :shock: :smile: :smile: :smile:

paulmc71
12-16-2006, 09:51 AM
As of 1630 hrs today, we are down 8 to 172. First week was tough but it's over and 26 more tough weeks to go.

Thanks for the support all - keep it up - all of us cadets need it

CTC IV-06 - MOTIVATED DEDICATED OOHRAH



TahoeTex

Good job on first week, I'm going through with you. See you Monday:shock:

marshallortiz
12-16-2006, 10:23 AM
It was a good week thats all I can say!:smile:

uoplax13
12-16-2006, 10:37 AM
It was a good week thats all I can say!:smile:

Friday felt so good. Meeting Commissioner Brown at breakfast was pretty awesome too I thought.

sbl
12-16-2006, 10:49 AM
It was a good week thats all I can say!:smile:

Friday felt so good. Meeting Commissioner Brown at breakfast was pretty awesome too I thought.

The first week was really tough.I was glad for Friday to come around.All cadets in ctc 4-06 stay
focused its going to be a long haul, but well worth it . :shock:

ChippieWife
12-16-2006, 02:55 PM
I look forward to reading this thread, as there's a good friend of mine from high school who's a cadet in this class.. :smile: Thank you for updating us!

paulmc71
12-16-2006, 03:27 PM
It was a good week thats all I can say!:smile:

marshallortiz-

are you in b company?

"one thumb significantly bigger than the other"

Mary-1
12-17-2006, 08:46 AM
I remember after my first weekend two to three cadets went home, never to return. Good luck guys/gals. Remember this shall pass.

justaroundthecorner
12-19-2006, 11:45 AM
Everybody returned yesterday. 172 is still the number, I believe.

mb116
12-19-2006, 12:03 PM
Everybody returned yesterday. 172 is still the number, I believe.

Thats great to hear, I figured a couple people wouldn't show. I think the fact that they all returned shows that the Backgrounds Unit is doing a pretty good job picking out the ones who really want it.

Gonzo
12-19-2006, 08:27 PM
Everybody returned yesterday. 172 is still the number, I believe.


Seems like a pretty tough group.

mremmaye
12-19-2006, 11:01 PM
Keep it up guys!! We are all rooting for you... just 25 more weeks to go!

snowdog
12-20-2006, 12:28 AM
Everybody returned yesterday. 172 is still the number, I believe.

A couple of them returned to turn in their gear and sign out. 170 remain in CTC IV-06.
Also, one cadet from CTC III-06 decided to return to their previous employment leaving that class at 147

CHP 11-99
12-20-2006, 11:27 AM
[quote=justaroundthecorner]Everybody returned yesterday. 172 is still the number, I believe.


Does anybody know the statistic on which Division has the most successful cadets completing the academy? Golden Gate, Southern, Valley???

snowdog
12-20-2006, 04:58 PM
Does anybody know the statistic on which Division has the most successful cadets completing the academy? Golden Gate, Southern, Valley???

Don't know, don't care, doesn't matter. I don't think anyone keeps those stats. It changes with each class.

TahoeTex
12-22-2006, 07:56 PM
Week 2 down, 25 to go

CTC IV-06 lost a couple more this week - we are sitting somewhere around 165. A couple of the folks who left did so due to injuries.

This weekend will be the tough one to come back from - 3 days off and we have to be back Christmas night. For all of you families out there, please encourage your cadet to go back - they will regret quitting every time they see a black and white go by on the freeway

Merry Christmas everyone

mremmaye
12-22-2006, 10:11 PM
What is the most common injuries that arise at the academy? Sound pretty serious if they caused ejection or dissmisal from the academy.

23112
12-22-2006, 11:24 PM
What is the most common injuries that arise at the academy? Sound pretty serious if they caused ejection or dissmisal from the academy.

Hurt pride, mostly. :smile: Actually, there are a variety of ailments that strike cadets: various illnesses (that everyone shares), sprains/strains, fainting spells, and bumps/bruises. I subluxated my shoulder while I was there and tore a chunk of labrum off. But I still finished and only had to blue-sheet one day. If you get hurt while you're there, suck it up and move on, if you can.

WantToBeCHP
12-23-2006, 10:30 AM
What is the most common injuries that arise at the academy? Sound pretty serious if they caused ejection or dissmisal from the academy.

Hurt pride, mostly. :smile: Actually, there are a variety of ailments that strike cadets: various illnesses (that everyone shares), sprains/strains, fainting spells, and bumps/bruises. I subluxated my shoulder while I was there and tore a chunk of labrum off. But I still finished and only had to blue-sheet one day. If you get hurt while you're there, suck it up and move on, if you can.

Do the Academy instructors or medical staff ever say that someone is just to hurt to move on? If so what happenes? Do you have to come back the next class, or will you get rolled back to the class coming in?

paulmc71
12-23-2006, 11:17 AM
one cadet from my company had bad knees, i think it was from a previous condition. i over heard her say that she would need surgery to correct the problem. the may be invited back for a later class, but they have to start all over again:biggrin:shock:ubt:

mremmaye
12-23-2006, 05:40 PM
As an aspiring CHP cadet, what should I do to minimize the chance of me getting an injury at the academy? Or should I expect injuries to be just a common occurence in the day and life of a cadet?

chpbound
12-23-2006, 06:31 PM
Week 2 down, 25 to go

CTC IV-06 lost a couple more this week - we are sitting somewhere around 165. A couple of the folks who left did so due to injuries.

This weekend will be the tough one to come back from - 3 days off and we have to be back Christmas night. For all of you families out there, please encourage your cadet to go back - they will regret quitting every time they see a black and white go by on the freeway

Merry Christmas everyone




It may be tough ? but when I enter the academy my mindset will be to graduate and that will be my number one priority. Holidays and special events will come second -- after all, officers have to work holidays during their careers.

Good luck to all!!

rookie1
12-24-2006, 03:56 PM
just being in the proper shape when you go to the academy will help you to not get injured. and know what is expected of you when you go is a big part to. just try to prepare yourself the best that you can phsically and mentally..good luck to all

lilgordo78
12-27-2006, 08:39 PM
What is the most common injuries that arise at the academy? Sound pretty serious if they caused ejection or dissmisal from the academy.

My husband in CTC IV 06. (3rd week almost down Yeah) I am really proud of him. From talking to him, when they ran the obstacle course a cadet had to go home cause he dislocated his shoulder. All I can say is go to the academy in GREAT shape! My husband ran 3-4 days a week, did push ups, sit ups, jumping jacks, and lunges for 2 months before he left and he is doing good in PT. He isn't the best but he isn't the worse either. So just keep in mind the better shape you go in the less likely you are to get injured.

Yzeman
12-28-2006, 12:42 AM
As an aspiring CHP cadet, what should I do to minimize the chance of me getting an injury at the academy? Or should I expect injuries to be just a common occurence in the day and life of a cadet?

This is a question I wish more 'Aspiring Cadets' would ask. It is also a question that SHOULD BE answered by every Cadet's BI. The short answer is...Be in shape BEFORE you reach the Academy. Yes injuries will always be a part of the training process of a physically demanding job, however a little preventative medicine in the way of exercise can greatly reduce injuries. My answer seems simple....right? Please read on...

***Disclaimer: The following references I make to being ?in shape? are not intended to insult the weekend athlete, or the recreational ?jogger? who may be reading this. The following statements are intended for the sole use of a prospective CHP Cadet, and are directed toward them. If your idea of exercise is 'running' to the refrigerator, or throwing a football during halftime of the super bowl each year?.please contact a Doctor prior to engaging in any strenuous exercise!

What do I mean by "in shape"? If you are jogging (notice I didn't say running) one or two miles....or even two or three miles, twice a week at a 10 minute pace...please listen carefully...you ARE NOT in shape :shock: A prospective Cadet should begin their physical preparation at least 6 months prior to the Academy to allow for true cardiovascular fitness as well as recovery time for injuries you might incur while getting into shape. Remember...start slow and work into it; in other words...start off jogging a few miles three times a week, and slowly increase the mileage, frequency and intensity of your runs, until you are running 3 to 4 miles a day, 5 days a week at a good conditioning pace. You should be at this point in your training for at least several weeks prior to entering the Academy. **I would also suggest mixing trail runs into your regime (this will help strengthen your leg joints...especially your knees).

OK...I can run like that...am I ready yet? Not yet! cardiovascular fitness is only a small part of this. You should also slowly work up to a point where you can do 75 to 100 pushups (yes...all at once), several hundred sit-ups (again...all at once), 25 to 50 'nose-in-the-ring' push-ups (YES!!), and at least 5 to 10 pull-ups...PALMS OUT. The PT staff will also introduce you to several 'other' exercises after you arrive...and will increase on the numbers I have here...but this will get you at a starting point.

Disclaimer #2: The above will not guarantee a Cadet ANYTHING?it will only put you in a position where the ?physical? portion of the Academy will not destroy you?therefore allowing you to focus more of your attention to passing the academic portion of the Academy. **Poor academic preparation can also lead to ?injury??but it?s a much different kind?and that wasn?t your original question! ;)

Wood19
12-28-2006, 10:43 AM
I recently graduated the academy and can hopefully shed a little incite into this here question. First off when you meet your background investigator for the first time, he should have you sign a few papers that say you understand what you are getting yourself into. You sign a paper that says you understand the expectations of the academy physically. They also give you a paper which states what the pt staff would consider in shape not in shape and not prepared. At least I signed those papers. I think yzeman said it best about the workout regiment you should have before entering the academy. Before i went into the academy I worked out 5 days a week. Getting up at 5 a.m. to run. Why 5 a.m.? because that is when i knew i would get up in the academy. I started out running 3 miles 3 times a week and 2 miles 2 times a week at a 9 minute mile pace. I gradually increased my miles untill i entered the academy, the week before i attended i was still running, but i moved my miles up to 5 miles 3 times a week and 4 miles 2 times a week at a pace just under 8 minutes a mile. Every day i was also working out with weights i designated 3 hours a day for 5 months to working out and getting prepaired for the academy.

I had good advice from a family member, he said there is one thing you can control during the academy and that is your fitness level. You can't control before hand the stress levels, your driving skills, shooting skills (they teach you a new way to shoot), your study habits, or how you will do on tests. All you can control is your fitness level. Let me tell you when my fellow cadets dreaded PT it was my favorite part of the day because i enjoyed running it was my time to relax, the PT staff was not yelling at me cause i was in the back row. Of course i got the occasional straighten your back etc. but nothing more.

Gittinready
12-28-2006, 05:25 PM
wood19 was in my class and he's dead on. If you think you're running enough...you're not. If you think you're doing enough calisthenics...you're not. YOU NEED TO DO MORE!!. I was working out 5 or 6 days a week and running 4 to 5 miles at a sub 8 minute mile pace. I was in what I considered to be great shape going in and it was still very tough, but I had it way easier than some of the food blisters that showed up. If you're serious about this career then you should honestly start training the day you take your written, not the day you get your invitation letter 4 weeks before you show up. You will get smoked physically like you can't imagine, at least ease some of that pain. Wood19 is right in another sense, if you're ready, then run time actually becomes relax time because they aren't yelling while you're running, well at least not that much:-)

snowdog
12-29-2006, 12:53 AM
Wood19 & Gittinready, excellent posts!! I have to say I'm impressed with the way you two articulated yourselves, straight to the point without taking down or trying to sound like old salts. Good luck in your careers and welcome to the family.

Wood19
12-29-2006, 01:10 AM
old salts? man I am just trying to get past first phase... i would be happy if I could go a shift without killing my F.T.O three or four times.... who thought it would be hard to find a hospital in a huge city... but hey sometimes he deserves it? :evil:

snowdog
12-29-2006, 11:15 AM
old salts? man I am just trying to get past first phase... i would be happy if I could go a shift without killing my F.T.O three or four times.... who thought it would be hard to find a hospital in a huge city... but hey sometimes he deserves it? :evil:

I used to hate when my FTO did that to me, and loved to do it to my trainee's. It's amazing how one can grow up in a city their entire life then go back after the Academy and suddenly not know where they are or how to get across town. That was a great tool to humble a trainee who thought they knew everything. (Instructions to Trainee while at First and Market in San Jo: Take me to Stanford Hospital before I bleed out in the next 3 minutes.)

Fire1
12-29-2006, 09:35 PM
Wood19 and I were both in the back row together and what he says is so true. For me there were some days that I wondered when they would actually make PT hard (don't tell the PT staff that) :lol:, but even with the shape I was in, there were days that I came out of the floor workout feeling like I had to puke ( after a couple hundred nose in the rings you just get to the point where you do only so much). Try your best not to be the cadet who comes in and loses 30+ pounds. Although I commend those who are able to do that, you will make life a lot easier for yourself and academy more "enjoyable". You will also be more likely to maintain the level of fitness that you will attain in the academy once you get out if you make serious fitness a part of your life before you even get there. Best of luck to all preparing for this next class. To you and those still in academy, make up your mind now that no matter what happens, today is not the day you quit.

Cameron
12-29-2006, 10:07 PM
I'm a cadet in a police academy right now... don't know how my PT compares to that of the CHP, but I'll pass along a little something that I did to make my pre-academy running easier.

I have a cheapy mp3 player, and I loaded in cadence songs that I downloaded from military websites. Running with cadence honestly helps a lot, especially if you are running alone. Plus, it gets you used to hearing (and running to) cadence.

Just a tip that worked for me. :smile:

Cameron
12-29-2006, 10:12 PM
Oh, and good luck, Cadets. Stick with it! Even on the most horrible of days, SMILE! :smile: Thousands of people would give just about anything to be in your shoes!

Gittinready
12-29-2006, 10:13 PM
Wood19 & Gittinready, excellent posts!! I have to say I'm impressed with the way you two articulated yourselves, straight to the point without taking down or trying to sound like old salts. Good luck in your careers and welcome to the family.

Thanks snowdog, it's great to finally be here. And I have to go with wood again, though, and say I'll just be happy to get through first phase then break in.

I went to an area where I've lived since I was 5, and it's amazing how little you actually know, especially under pressure.

TahoeTex
12-31-2006, 03:07 PM
Quick update from CTC IV-06 - didn't lose many this week. I am certain of 2 losses and that's it. I believe the class is still sitting at around 165-166 cadets. Suprisingly, everyone came back after Christmas - we'll see if the same stays true for New Year's. Will keep posting when I can.

10-10

Mary-1
01-05-2007, 09:44 AM
Well, how is this class doing now?

uoplax13
01-05-2007, 08:42 PM
Outstanding, Sir.

sbl
01-05-2007, 09:22 PM
Glad the weekend is here:smile:

paulmc71
01-06-2007, 09:47 AM
out of 180 cadets, i believe we have lost around 15-20. My company of 60 has lost 9.

TahoeTex
01-06-2007, 02:36 PM
CTC IV-06 is now sitting at 162 cadets - 4 weeks down, 23 to go.

CTC III-06 also lost a few this week - I heard 4 but I'm not completely certain of that. I know at least 1 went down for EVOC. Over a third of the class also failed AI so they will be spending a weekend at the academy very soon.

10-23 for more

10-10

WantToBeCHP
01-10-2007, 10:50 PM
CTC IV-06 is now sitting at 162 cadets - 4 weeks down, 23 to go.

CTC III-06 also lost a few this week - I heard 4 but I'm not completely certain of that. I know at least 1 went down for EVOC. Over a third of the class also failed AI so they will be spending a weekend at the academy very soon.

10-23 for more

10-10

Over 1/3 failed the AI, that sounds like alot, or is that normal failing rate?

roaming_gnome
01-11-2007, 04:49 AM
Week four, and already AI? Unless they moved things around, something doesn't sound right.....

KingTriton
01-11-2007, 06:00 AM
What does AI mean? Where would one find the information on the domains taught in the academy. I personally wouldnt mind learning or reading about them prior to me getting there. There has to be more I can do to prepare for the academy other then PT, right?

Hooah!

rookie1
01-11-2007, 06:16 AM
A.I stands for accident investigation. yeah I was told that was twoard the end of the class. but I havent been thru so things might have been changed since my friend went thru.....

Wood19
01-11-2007, 06:36 AM
I assume the AI failures were from CTC III-06 not IV-06. Being that tahoe tex wrote about both classes currently at the academy. And actually 1/3 the class failing isn't that bad... my class was about the same if not worse...

AI is hard work! EVOC is hard work! Shooting guns is hard work! But PT is the hardest work!!! inside joke for those of you who don't understand.

Gittinready
01-11-2007, 05:35 PM
I assume the AI failures were from CTC III-06 not IV-06. Being that tahoe tex wrote about both classes currently at the academy. And actually 1/3 the class failing isn't that bad... my class was about the same if not worse...

AI is hard work! EVOC is hard work! Shooting guns is hard work! But PT is the hardest work!!! inside joke for those of you who don't understand.

He was referring to III-06, and Wood, you're still not funny! :-)

richleo11
01-13-2007, 11:27 AM
What is so difficult about Accidents Investigations learning domain? I would think that perhaps the math part of the class, or attention to details. I just guessing here, but CHP officers respond to several accident investigations through out their carriers, and it makes sense that they should be proficient on the learning domain. By reading the previous posts, it is something to really work on it or prepare, prior to entering the academy.

TahoeTex
01-21-2007, 05:43 PM
As of Friday, CTC IV-06 is down to 161 cadets. EVOC is just starting, so expect more to drop soon.

10-23 for more

10-10

Mac
01-21-2007, 07:47 PM
What is so difficult about Accidents Investigations learning domain?
A lot of things. AI is an incredibly complex subject. It's a lot deeper and more difficult than people think.

I just guessing here, but CHP officers respond to several accident investigations through out their carriers...
LOL....CHP officers usually respond to "several" collisions during their first day of field break-in! You respond to THOUSANDS of them during your career if you spend a respectable amount of time on the road.

By reading the previous posts, it is something to really work on it or prepare, prior to entering the academy.
The most beneficial thing you can work on before the Academy to prepare yourself is writing skills. Vocabulary, spelling, sentence structure, etc. Take college English classes, study, practice and be the best writer you can possibly be. You'll learn everything you need to know about AI (and every other subject) in the Academy - but if you can't properly document what you've learned you won't even survive the Academy, let alone field break-in when you start getting piled up with reports and have to write them quickly, correctly and efficiently. Writing AI and arrest reports in the Academy is a piece of cake - you have plenty of time to do them and not many distractions. It's a whole different world when you're in the field....one or two busy days and all of a sudden you're down 6 or 7 reports, and now you have to find/make time to write them in between answering calls and covering your beat. That's when your writing skills have to be "automatic", and you've got to be able to crank them out. Make mistakes and they come back to you for corrections, and now you have to squeeze in your corrections along with the reports you've taken SINCE then that have started piling up.

Be a good writer before you go to the Academy. They're not going to take the time to teach basic composition and spelling there. If you don't already have it, you'll sink. Plain as that.

aggienut
01-23-2007, 10:53 AM
I could not agree more with Mac. Being an advanced writer is key from the officers I have talked to. It makes perfect sense, but some applicants don't seem to get that and just push forward.

Personally, having taken the written this past Saturday, I would have to argue that the removal of the essay portion of the exam hurts the CHP and the applicants because it potentially moves through people who simply cannot construct a readable paragraph, much less something more complex like what is encountered in A.I. The test was a good gauge of a lot of things, but how or if you can write was not one of them (just because you can recognize a run on sentence or fragment does not mean you know how to write from scratch).

I understand the department is attempting to "streamline" the process, but at what cost? You advance the applicant to academy and then he/she (and the department) discover oops....Johnny needs a few college English courses and he gets the hook. All that time and money gone.

Not sure what the solution might be, but one might be the requirement that applicants have at least an AA degree and/or specific set of completed courses with a specific grade.

Some may think this sounds silly (and granted I am biased as I have multiple degrees) but this job is as much, if not more, brains than it is brawn.

retchp
01-23-2007, 03:13 PM
Perfectly well said aggienut and way more true than you know. I had to use my brain everyday on CHP for almost thirty years. I probably had to use 'brawn" less than fifty times in my career. The only caveat for a cadet wanna be or a recent academy graduate is that when you have to use "brawn" you must be physically fit and mentally (warrior) ready to do so.

That means you must make an effort to stay in shape after graduation or when the rare time pops up when you have to be physically fit as a cop you might get hurt or worse.

Its a job requiring several skill sets and a certain mind set if you are to be successful at it.

CHPwannaBE
01-24-2007, 09:27 AM
Well I am glad to hear from Officers letting all of us noobs know how important writing skills are before we begin the process. I have taken two college english classes and one public speaking class(considered english) and still do not meet the english requirements to graduate. I'm only a sophomore! I hope it all pays off in the long run.

TahoeTex
01-26-2007, 10:12 PM
As of today, 01/26/07, CTC IV-06 is down to 159 cadets. EVOC has started so more may be lost over the next couple of weeks. I believe CTC III-06 is down to somewhere around 140 but I don't have the exact number. CTC III-06 did get their dream sheets today so they will be ranking where they want to go and then praying for something close to it.

CTC IV-06 - 7 weeks down, 20 to go

CTC III-06 - 19 weeks down, 8 to go

10-23 for more

10-10

TahoeTex
02-24-2007, 10:48 PM
CTC IV-06 lost a few more this past week, mainly to EVOC, and are down to 148 cadets. Week 11 is complete - 16 to go. Stand-by for more

TahoeTex
03-03-2007, 03:59 PM
As of 03/02/07, CTC IV-06 is down to 145 with one leaving Monday for medical reasons, to drop us to 144. EVOC has been a big killer as of late, claiming around 13 cadets so far.

12 weeks down, 15 to go

10-23 for more

10-10

justaroundthecorner
03-30-2007, 09:57 AM
It's Friday at the end of "zero week," how are you cadets doing? 16 weeks down, 11 to go!

Hawk004
03-30-2007, 10:23 AM
What is EVOC

ONETIME
03-30-2007, 10:37 AM
What is EVOC

I would tell you but my friend SERCH might get mad... :rolleyes:

AspiringToBeChp
03-30-2007, 10:37 AM
I believe it's Emergency Vehicle Operations Course

MissK
03-30-2007, 10:41 AM
My husband is currently in CTC: IV-06 and he can't wait for 0 week to be over and the newbies come in. The attention will be off of them for a while and on the new cadets. Good luck to all the new cadets entering in April.

KingFrankSam
03-30-2007, 07:33 PM
My husband is currently in CTC: IV-06 and he can't wait for 0 week to be over and the newbies come in. The attention will be off of them for a while and on the new cadets. Good luck to all the new cadets entering in April.

Don't let him fall into that trap. There's plenty of attention to go around...

uoplax13
03-31-2007, 11:18 AM
Don't let him fall into that trap. There's plenty of attention to go around...

The only thing that will change for IV-06 on Monday will be having to wake up a little earlier and having a slightly longer line for chow. The only easy day at the Academy will be the afternoon of June 15.

raemee
04-02-2007, 06:41 PM
My husband is currently in CTC: IV-06 and he can't wait for 0 week to be over and the newbies come in. The attention will be off of them for a while and on the new cadets. Good luck to all the new cadets entering in April.

Hi MissK - sent you a private message. :biggrin:

atkrocket
04-05-2007, 10:47 PM
Well I am glad to hear from Officers letting all of us noobs know how important writing skills are before we begin the process. I have taken two college english classes and one public speaking class(considered english) and still do not meet the english requirements to graduate. I'm only a sophomore! I hope it all pays off in the long run.
once again are we talking about a doable course or is this something that is just so hard people should think twice before going to the academy to take this on?

snowdog
04-05-2007, 11:10 PM
once again are we talking about a doable course or is this something that is just so hard people should think twice before going to the academy to take this on?
People should think about many things before going to the Academy. If it wasn't doable, nobody would graduate. Many of the graduates have little or no college education and they still manage to graduate.

uoplax13
04-06-2007, 12:11 AM
Some of the smartest people I've ever met have barely had high school educations, and some of the dumbest people I've met have PhD's......There is a big difference bewteen being educated, and having an education.....I like to think both apply to me :biggrin:.....but then again, the degree to which one is humble can be a huge indicator of their level of education.

TahoeTex
04-06-2007, 08:02 PM
17 weeks down, 10 to go

CTC IV-06 is sitting at 137 cadets with scenarios getting started. If you have a family member or friend in IV-06, keep encouraging them because this is what makes or breaks cadets (along with AI)

If you have friends or family in I-07, let them know that they can do it - stick it out, it changes

10-23 for more

10-10

Mac
04-08-2007, 08:19 AM
once again are we talking about a doable course or is this something that is just so hard people should think twice before going to the academy to take this on?
I guess if it wasn't doable we wouldn't be approaching badge #18500 sometime in the near future.

It's very doable for some, impossible for others. Which category you fall in depends entirely upon you.

Afrmthabay
04-08-2007, 09:39 AM
Some of the smartest people I've ever met have barely had high school educations, and some of the dumbest people I've met have PhD's......There is a big difference bewteen being educated, and having an education.....I like to think both apply to me :biggrin:.....but then again, the degree to which one is humble can be a huge indicator of their level of education.


In terms of a college degree many would agree it is great for law enforcement officers to receive education. However, I think it is a great point to remember that even with a degree you may have people that lack the common sense essential for the job!

lilgordo78
04-12-2007, 10:55 AM
Does anyone know the official count of cadets that are still there in CTC-IV-06?? My husband is currently in and I keep forgetting to ask him.

lilgordo78
04-17-2007, 09:48 AM
I have been hearing about a night during graduation week where family gets to go down to the academy and see what there loved one has been doing for 6 months. I think this happens the Thursday before graduation? Is this true? I am trying to get my time line for graduation week in order for a baby sitter. I know there is the party on Wed? But, is this other thing true or not?

bcjack
04-17-2007, 06:59 PM
GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU!!!!

One day at a time and sooner than later, you will be out making life safer for all of us...:biggrin:

Dipmo
04-17-2007, 11:16 PM
I have been hearing about a night during graduation week where family gets to go down to the academy and see what there loved one has been doing for 6 months. I think this happens the Thursday before graduation? Is this true? I am trying to get my time line for graduation week in order for a baby sitter. I know there is the party on Wed? But, is this other thing true or not?

There is a spousal panel on Thursday, but not a tour. For III06 the panel was from 0900 to noon, but it could be diff. for IV06. You will get word via your spouse about 3 weeks before graduation. The tour happens on graduation day and it's only to the extent your spouse feels like showing you.

lilgordo78
04-21-2007, 01:44 PM
Well, We are all getting closer to graduation! Yeah... The Dreamlist for
IV-06 came out Friday so now all my husband and I need to do is decide where we would like to live concidering that nothing is available close to our home. :think: So good luck cadets in getting an assigment that you will all be happy with!

23109
04-21-2007, 01:55 PM
Let's see the list !

TahoeTex
04-21-2007, 06:23 PM
Here's the list:

Redwood City - 10
SF - 2
San Jose - 6
Hayward - 2
Marin - 4
Santa Rosa - 8
Sonoma Coast Resident Post - 1
Oakland - 6
Castro Valley - 2
Porterville - 4
Coalinga - 4
Baldwin Park - 3
South LA - 4
East LA - 5
Newhall - 4
Antelope Valley - 5
Santa Fe Springs - 3
West LA - 5
Central LA - 7
Altadena - 5
West Valley - 4
Blythe - 1
Westminster - 2
Santa Ana - 3
El Cajon - 1
Capistrano - 1
Santa Cruz - 3
Hollister/Gilroy - 3
Monterey - 8
Buelton - 2
Santa Barbara - 4
Ventura - 1
Bridgeport - 2
Bishop - 1
Lone Pine Resident Post - 2
Mojave - 1
Barstow - 1
Morango Basin - 1
San Diego - 4

May the decisions begin!

Dipmo
04-21-2007, 06:56 PM
Here's the list:

Redwood City - 10
SF - 2
San Jose - 6
Hayward - 2
Marin - 4
Santa Rosa - 8
Sonoma Coast Resident Post - 1
Oakland - 6
Castro Valley - 2
Porterville - 4
Coalinga - 4
Baldwin Park - 3
South LA - 4
East LA - 5
Newhall - 4
Antelope Valley - 5
Santa Fe Springs - 3
West LA - 5
Central LA - 7
Altadena - 5
West Valley - 4
Blythe - 1
Westminster - 2
Santa Ana - 3
El Cajon - 1
Capistrano - 1
Santa Cruz - 3
Hollister/Gilroy - 3
Monterey - 8
Buelton - 2
Santa Barbara - 4
Ventura - 1
Bridgeport - 2
Bishop - 1
Lone Pine Resident Post - 2
Mojave - 1
Barstow - 1
Morango Basin - 1
San Diego - 4

May the decisions begin!

Nice list, you folks got some good choices.

uoplax13
04-22-2007, 01:18 PM
Anyone know how far south and north the Monterey Area covers? Any advice on putting in for a larger area vs. the few rural spots on the list?

23109
04-22-2007, 02:15 PM
I went to a rural area right out of the Academy, in fact it's on this list here. I've seen the same stuff in this area that's been seen in the larger areas, but not as frequently.

It all depends on what you want to expose yourself to. I love the area I'm in, and I've had a taste of what it's like to work in an office that handles more calls. I'd much rather be where I'm at than be a slave to the radio. Here I can be as proactive as I want to be, which can make for some good times !

uoplax13
04-22-2007, 02:44 PM
Any thoughts on the areas in Inland (Bishop, Bridgeport, Barstow, etc...)??

23109
04-22-2007, 03:03 PM
Bishop, Bridgeport, Barstow, and Morongo Basin are all in Inland Division.

My academy roommate is assigned to a resident post out of Bishop and he loves it up there. Cold weather in the winter, mild to hot summers, lots of traffic activity and such.

Barstow from what I hear is a busy office, and it's a test office for the 3/12 shifts so that's a good selling point. It covers one of the biggest areas in the state I believe.

No idea bout Bridgeport.

Morongo Basin: Great office. Out in the middle of nowhere though but that can be good if you like that sort of thing. Cold winters, hot summers but not nearly as bad as the lower desert.

uoplax13
04-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Bishop, Bridgeport, Barstow, and Morongo Basin are all in Inland Division.

My academy roommate is assigned to a resident post out of Bishop and he loves it up there. Cold weather in the winter, mild to hot summers, lots of traffic activity and such.

Barstow from what I hear is a busy office, and it's a test office for the 3/12 shifts so that's a good selling point. It covers one of the biggest areas in the state I believe.

No idea bout Bridgeport.

Morongo Basin: Great office. Out in the middle of nowhere though but that can be good if you like that sort of thing. Cold winters, hot summers but not nearly as bad as the lower desert.

My big concern is that I've heard that as a young guy I might get bored going to a rural office right off the bat.....but I'm starting to think, like any big area, if I don't like it I just have to do a year and then transfer...

23109
04-22-2007, 04:51 PM
Like I said, I went to a rural area out of the Academy. Sure, I wasn't responding to crash after crash, but if that's your cup of tea, then great !

This job is what YOU make of it. People will always tell you that it's not a sprint, but a marathon. Depending on the area, you can go out and be as proactive as YOU want to be, not just when the radio allows you to be.

bluiis911
04-22-2007, 08:22 PM
Anyone know how far south and north the Monterey Area covers? Any advice on putting in for a larger area vs. the few rural spots on the list?

If I were a cadet and I got to pick from the list I would pick Monterey. It's busy but not crazy busy. Lots of good training officers and the dispatchers are great with the new officers. :cool:

bcjack
04-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Here's the list:

Redwood City - 10
SF - 2
San Jose - 6
Hayward - 2
Marin - 4
Santa Rosa - 8
Sonoma Coast Resident Post - 1
Oakland - 6
Castro Valley - 2
Porterville - 4
Coalinga - 4
Baldwin Park - 3
South LA - 4
East LA - 5
Newhall - 4
Antelope Valley - 5
Santa Fe Springs - 3
West LA - 5
Central LA - 7
Altadena - 5
West Valley - 4
Blythe - 1
Westminster - 2
Santa Ana - 3
El Cajon - 1
Capistrano - 1
Santa Cruz - 3
Hollister/Gilroy - 3
Monterey - 8
Buelton - 2
Santa Barbara - 4
Ventura - 1
Bridgeport - 2
Bishop - 1
Lone Pine Resident Post - 2
Mojave - 1
Barstow - 1
Morango Basin - 1
San Diego - 4

May the decisions begin!


Buellton - 2 ???????????????
Santa Barbara - 4 ????????????
Ventura - 1 ???????????
If I was choosing, based on personal experience working with the folks in Buellton and Santa Barbara on occasion, I would choose Buellton first and Santa Barbara second. Both are busy, but not crazy, and the people working there are a good bunch (Not saying the others are not good, just my experience with these folks, they are good)

Sonoma Coast Resident Post ??????? :shock:
Lone Pine Resident Post ????? :shock:

I didn't think Resident Posts would be available right out of the academy. Anyone have a thought on why???

Santa Maria - 0 :cry:

Gittinready
04-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Buellton - 2 ???????????????
I didn't think Resident Posts would be available right out of the academy. Anyone have a thought on why???



Vacancies from the last transfer that have to be filled. For initial cadet assignments..."the needs of the department"

AaeJae
04-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Geez, if I were on that list, I would totally want Monterey or Hayward. Definitely Hayward though. My goodness! I live in the central valley, so Hayward is only a hard hour away.

I hope when I go in I get that.

IrishJoe
04-24-2007, 11:23 AM
Vacancies from the last transfer that have to be filled. For initial cadet assignments..."the needs of the department"

For your officers out there...what are your thoughts on an academy graduate getting a RP right off the bat? How would your initial training with an FTO work, (since, I assume, as a RP you wouldn't be working out of a station).

Sonoma Coast RP...wow, sounds like the dream spot!

Thanks,

-IJ

IrishJoe
04-24-2007, 11:26 AM
Geez, if I were on that list, I would totally want Monterey or Hayward. Definitely Hayward though. My goodness! I live in the central valley, so Hayward is only a hard hour away.

I hope when I go in I get that.


Since I have such a low last four....I'll be happy with anything in NorCal! :wink:

-IJ

Gittinready
04-24-2007, 04:37 PM
Since I have such a low last four....I'll be happy with anything in NorCal! :wink:

-IJ
you mean anything in los angeles...sorry i had to.

If assigned to a resident post out of the academy, you complete your fto period at the station the RP is based out of. For instance the Parker Dam RP is out of the Needles office.

IrishJoe
04-24-2007, 07:47 PM
you mean anything in los angeles...sorry i had to.

If assigned to a resident post out of the academy, you complete your fto period at the station the RP is based out of. For instance the Parker Dam RP is out of the Needles office.

:wink: yeah, isn't that the truth! Oh well, I've already resigned myself to LA...:doubt:

bcjack
04-24-2007, 08:55 PM
:wink: yeah, isn't that the truth! Oh well, I've already resigned myself to LA...:doubt:

To be accepted to the CHP Academy, graduate and get an assignment is such an honor, working ANYWHERE would probably be near perfect!!!:biggrin:

IrishJoe
04-24-2007, 09:12 PM
To be accepted to the CHP Academy, graduate and get an assignment is such an honor, working ANYWHERE would probably be near perfect!!!:biggrin:

Agreed!!

Gittinready
04-25-2007, 01:03 PM
:wink: yeah, isn't that the truth! Oh well, I've already resigned myself to LA...:doubt:

I know everyone says it's only a year, but that's so true. If you are so fortunate to graduate and then make it off break in, before you know it you'll be putting in for your transfer. I'm serious. This has been said before, but you may end up liking where you end up. The guy who went to my office with me out of my class lived in San Diego, now he's looking for a house near the office because he likes it so much here now. Just keep on truckin'!

IrishJoe
04-25-2007, 08:55 PM
I know everyone says it's only a year, but that's so true. If you are so fortunate to graduate and then make it off break in, before you know it you'll be putting in for your transfer. I'm serious. This has been said before, but you may end up liking where you end up. The guy who went to my office with me out of my class lived in San Diego, now he's looking for a house near the office because he likes it so much here now. Just keep on truckin'!

Very true...one or two years out of a career really isn't that much. I won't complain....:cool:

Mac
04-26-2007, 10:04 AM
A year seems like a long time, but your first year on the job passes in the blink of an eye. You're completely absorbed with break-in and learning the job, and everything is so new and fun to you that the year is gone almost before you can realize it.

You may not be able to transfer to your "dream spot" with just one year on the job (depending on where it is), but you can at least throw the transfer in and start working your way closer to home. Or, as Gittinready said, you may discover that you've found your new "dream spot" in the office you're in! My assignment out of the Academy wasn't where I actually would have liked to have gone, but I ended up liking it so much that I stayed for almost 15 years.

dlg2k6
05-16-2007, 12:12 PM
Just curious for an update on this class - as to how many are expected to graduate next month. Any info?

CHPwhat
05-21-2007, 11:01 AM
Well now that im in the process and hopefully make it to the academy and graduate, and get off break-in I would pick the South LA office. Who doesn't want to patrol the unincororated areas of Compton.:biggrin: And you get tazers!

TahoeTex
06-08-2007, 11:02 AM
Just curious for an update on this class - as to how many are expected to graduate next month. Any info?

131 cadets are scheduled to make the transition from cadet to officer one week from today. Just as a word of advice to future cadets out there - we lost 2 on Monday (week 26) to AI after we had just received our badge numbers. You are never safe until you graduate and then you still have a year of probation so make sure you know how to write when you go into the academy and it will help you succeed.

6 days and a wake up

10-23 from more
10-10

Dipmo
06-08-2007, 03:06 PM
131 cadets are scheduled to make the transition from cadet to officer one week from today. Just as a word of advice to future cadets out there - we lost 2 on Monday (week 26) to AI after we had just received our badge numbers. You are never safe until you graduate and then you still have a year of probation so make sure you know how to write when you go into the academy and it will help you succeed.

6 days and a wake up

10-23 from more
10-10

Dude, I think it's about time for you guys and gals to be "10-8". Enjoy next week (but not too much) it goes by way too fast.

lilgordo78
06-11-2007, 01:55 PM
Way to go to all the cadets graduating this Friday. My husband is one of them and I am so proud of him and everyone else for making it through the tough 6 months of training and being away from family.
Again Congrats!!!!:biggrin:

HD1
06-11-2007, 11:02 PM
CONGRATS TO ALL THE NEW OFFICERS THAT HAVE MADE THE TRANSITION FROM BLUE BOYS AND GIRLS TO OFFICERS!!:smile: :smile: :smile:

rayni
06-12-2007, 09:30 AM
:biggrin: THIS IS A CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CTC IV-06 GALS/GUYS, but to the wives as well. MISS K & LILGORDO78 THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT i know us wives of CTC I-07 appreciate you for all that you've done & will be paying it forward to the others in CTC II-07:biggrin: wow i'm so proud & excited for your new journey GOD BLESS :biggrin: ttyl this is gonna be a busy week.

Gittinready
06-13-2007, 06:11 PM
First of all CONGRATULATIONS to all the soon to be new officers! Way to go. Just don't forget what you've learned and listen to your FTO's! Remember Beat knowledge, beat knowledge, beat knowledge.

On a side note, what happened to the 10 days after 1 class graduated to the next class started, I see the next one starts only three days later(June 18th)?

lilgordo78
06-21-2007, 10:14 PM
I just need to say Congrats to everyone who became an Officer on June 15 (my husband included) It was such a wonderful experance to attend graduation. Good luck to all of CTC-IV-06 in all your adventures to come! Congratulations again!

uoplax13
06-23-2007, 09:31 AM
On a side note, what happened to the 10 days after 1 class graduated to the next class started, I see the next one starts only three days later(June 18th)?

...just the way scheduling worked out I guess....no week 'o fun for I-07....

CALRD
06-28-2007, 08:54 PM
Hello all. This is my first post, so I hope I am doing things correctly. First of all I want to begin thanking all those responsible for this forum. My son has just graduated from CTC IV-06. I found this forum when he had just began his journey through the academy. It has help both of us so much in getting him through the process. The postings have been informative and many time humorous. Please keep the good work up.

The one thing I felt al little disappointed about though was the two previous classes had quite a few congratulatory comments and CTC IV-06 had but a few. The men and women of all these classes past and present should be congratulated to the highest extent as well as all the Officers now serving and retired for their great service.

I am very proud of my son of becoming a part of THE BEST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY in the World. As well proud to have the Finest out there protecting us.

Again thank you for all the help.:biggrin:

Radar
06-28-2007, 10:17 PM
First of all CONGRATULATIONS to all the soon to be new officers! Way to go. Just don't forget what you've learned and listen to your FTO's! Remember Beat knowledge, beat knowledge, beat knowledge.

On a side note, what happened to the 10 days after 1 class graduated to the next class started, I see the next one starts only three days later(June 18th)?

I don't remember exactly what the impact was (I'd have to look at the class schedule), but if the class started on June 25th instead of the 18th, the Christmas holiday would become an issue. This is the only time it was scheduled to happen...

BTW, there is a TON of effort on the part of the Staff Office and the other folks at the Academy in preparing for a graduation AND a pick-up day. They look forward to that extra 10 days to get things in order and make sure each event runs as smoothly as possible. They did not have that luxury this time... Those sparkling blue uniforms, bags of cadet goodies, etc. don't magically appear -- someone has to coordinate all of that. Not to mention, the custodial staff cleaning about 50+ dorm rooms between the grad class clearing out on Friday and the new class reporting on Monday, Supply prepping the classrooms, Maintenance doing repairs, etc., etc...

Although, I'm sure CTC I-07 didn't mind missing out on the opportunity to be the ONLY class on-site for a week, and the requisite "personal attention" THAT brings... :wink: