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SB 405
11-04-2005, 11:13 AM
These things are getting out of control here in LA. We had another one last night and over the last couple of months I've heard of a least three others. I don't see how any of these can ever be solved because they always happen in the early morning hours with light to no traffic,and a quick get a way. Seems to be the perfect crime,can the CHP do anything other than file a report?
Yep. A couple of the shooters have already been arrested from previous cases. There may not be 100% apprehensions, but it's far from the "perfect crime".
Your Mentor
11-05-2005, 05:03 PM
You know I was hired as a result of the Freeway Violence act which permitted hiring 750 officers. This was a problem in the middle of the 1980's and on the same scale; nightly news coverage. Perhaps the southern and central division chiefs will use it to accelerate hiring again. Who knows but the problem is NOT as new as you'd think. Things come in cycles don't they.
SB 405
11-06-2005, 07:32 AM
You got that right Mentor. I remember down here in LA about twelve years ago someone was driving around the San Fernando Valley at night shooting out store front windows for about a month in about a twenty mile area. And who do you think it turned out to be? A guy that owned a local glass company:lol:
SB 405
11-08-2005, 06:44 AM
And yet another shooting early this morning on the 22 frwy.
Flying Pig
11-08-2005, 02:09 PM
Not to offend anyone here...but in a freeway shooting, the CHP would not be the investigating agency, it would be the Sheriff's Department. Im sure the CHP would respond, but he Sheriff would handle the investigation.
Well, I guess that depends. My office has worked at least 2 freeway shootings that I know of.
Tom
Flying Pig
11-08-2005, 02:19 PM
What county?
Beautiful Contra Costa County in the marvelous/stunning east bay. Yep, we take everything when an agency even hints that they won't.
Tom
Flying Pig
11-08-2005, 02:30 PM
Hmmmm, must be county protocol. Ive worked in both Riverside and now Fresno. Im not starting any arguements here either.....but if it wasnt a VC violation, we (sheriff) was called to take over, with the exception of a CHP officer being the victim. I can recall several incidents. One specifically where a woman was "hit" by a car while she was changing her tire on I-10. CHP came....turns out she was "hit" by her ex-husband....hmmmmmm....hence, the S.O. was sent for a 664/187. Even here in Fresno, the CHP goes to a vehicle vs ped and finds out its a 245, and we go take it over. Of course when the drunk hits a pole, we call you love calling you ...what goes around comes around :biggrin:
The freeway shootings we have had here in Fresno have all been handled by the S.O.
I'm with you. It is more the exception than the rule. We were called to a car fire one day a couple of years back, turned out it was a guy who set his former girlfriend and her two young kids on fire. Poured gas on them and the whole nine yards. The guy, who also caught on fire, hi-jacked another car and took off to SF. The original car, fully engulfed (2 dead kids) and the badly burned mom rolled down an offramp and onto the freeway. We get there and, thank goodness, the PD took it. We were clueless.
Tom
BTW for you guys going to the academy, my beat partner that day (former motor) is now the "Bionic Man" at the PT staff. Good luck!!
SB 405
11-08-2005, 02:39 PM
Guess I just assumed the CHP was the lead on shootings because most of them take place on the freeway and with that being your turf,you owned it. Also everytime the media covers these it's the CHP that makes some kind of statement to the press.
Hammer
11-08-2005, 02:39 PM
The CHP is investigating today's shooting on the 22. The news reported, "If you have any information call the CHP Westminster Division at 714-892-4426."
Flying Pig
11-08-2005, 03:10 PM
A lot of times if a gang task force or a multi agency unit is conducting the investigation, and CHP is part of that unit they will usually be the contact. It definitely has its advantages. If say the shooting happened in L.A, and somone calls in with a lead in San Diego, it would be a lot easier to get that info disseminated through CHP than for LASO to call SDSO, tell the whole story, ask for some assistance, then 10 sergeants and 5 captains have to give written permission before someone can follow up on the info, or for a Deputy to drive 5 hours in traffic to San Diego to follow a lead....you get the picture.
In the Area which I last worked, we pretty-much handled everything. I handled several domestic violence, assault, and other Penal Code cases. We handled a freeway shooting ourselves, but another was handled by the SO. It depends on the CHP Area and the agreement with the SO. We had a MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) that the SO got "first dibbs" on freeway crimes, but we would handle if they didn't want it. We also handled all crimes occurring on State property, even within City limits. (How's "the School" goin', 16528?)
Your Mentor
11-08-2005, 06:23 PM
Every county is different. You've worked in counties, F.P., where the deputies are very well trained and understand jurisdictional issues based on crimes. I worked in one county, which I don't want to mention, where it seemed that if the crime, no matter what, occured on, near, or within, a vehicle, they automatically assumed it was the CHP's.
I worked in one county, which I don't want to mention, where it seemed that if the crime, no matter what, occured on, near, or within, a vehicle, they automatically assumed it was the CHP's.
Hey, I think I know that county too! :badgrin:
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