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not5150
11-30-1999, 12:00 AM
You can search the penal and vehicle code (along with a whole bunch of other codes) at this link - http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
Do they make you remember all 29-codes in the police academy??

I can only speak for the Rio Hondo and San Bernardino Sheriff Academies. You don't have to remember any radio codes for those academies, because graduates can go to almost any department in the state. Everyone uses their own codes and 10-35 means something completely different for CHP versus Sheriff.

Penal and Vehicle codes do have to be memorized for the POST test. The vehicle code test is the one that kills the most people at many academies.

Vehicle codes were quite easy for me (since I was a CHP Explorer after all). I snagged an unwanted VC book from the station and just read the darn thing. You used to be able to (maybe you still can) buy the Vehicle Code book for $3 from any DMV office. Just walk in the front door and ask for it.

sweetdancer
07-24-2006, 01:02 AM
For those of us that are not officers, what is a 187 and a 273.5? I don't have the code books to look it up.

Capsicum
07-24-2006, 06:54 AM
187 is the Penal Code section for murder and 273.5 is the section for domestic violence

not5150
07-24-2006, 09:12 AM
You can search the penal and vehicle code (along with a whole bunch of other codes) at this link - http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html

NorCalN00b
07-24-2006, 09:21 AM
You can search the penal and vehicle code (along with a whole bunch of other codes) at this link - http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
Do they make you remember all 29-codes in the police academy??

Mac
07-24-2006, 09:36 AM
Do they make you remember all 29-codes in the police academy??
LOL....no, you study and learn about a handful of them, but many of them don't even have anything to do with our job - at least not the day-to-day duties. The main ones we deal with are the Vehicle Code, Penal Code, Health & Safety Code and Welfare & Institutions Code. Some of the others peripherally affect our job, but you don't deal with them as a patrol officer.

pupdog
07-24-2006, 09:37 AM
Are the 10 codes online anywhere so I can get working on them before the academy?

Mac
07-24-2006, 09:41 AM
Are the 10 codes online anywhere so I can get working on them before the academy?
Here: http://www.chpforums.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=100

NorCalN00b
07-24-2006, 09:42 AM
Do they make you remember all 29-codes in the police academy??
LOL....no, you study and learn about a handful of them, but many of them don't even have anything to do with our job - at least not the day-to-day duties. The main ones we deal with are the Vehicle Code, Penal Code, Health & Safety Code and Welfare & Institutions Code. Some of the others peripherally affect our job, but you don't deal with them as a patrol officer.
Okay, lets take the Penal Code for example. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=pen&codebody=&hits=All

The Penal Code starts from "1" to "15003". Don't tell me they make you memorize from 1-15003!!!

Dipmo
07-24-2006, 09:42 AM
Are the 10 codes online anywhere so I can get working on them before the academy?

Check the library on this very site, you'll find them there...

pupdog
07-24-2006, 09:58 AM
AAAAH! Thanks guys! I've never looked in 'library' because it shows a padlock, which has become our own little 10 code for too much dead horse beating and probably not worth getting into!

10-7
07-24-2006, 02:48 PM
The Penal Code starts from "1" to "15003". Don't tell me they make you memorize from 1-15003!!!

Yup. So you'd better get started now.

retchp
07-24-2006, 03:56 PM
He is only kidding. Don't freak out. Before I became a cadet many many years ago I too bought a Vehicle Code and tried to memorize it. Imagine my surprise and relief when someone told me that just a limited amount of law is used by peace officers, no matter which agency, in day to day work. The rest is there to look up for various and sundry reasons, which would take too long to explain here. Even lawyers don't know the specific laws. They just know where to look it up.
Example...you are a CHP officer and make an arrest out of an accident involving a driver who has killed some other person...you may be filing a 187 PC (murder), a 192 PC (manslaughter, or some variant of MS), 23153 a/b VC (felony DUI) and some Health and Safety Code violations (dope).
In the field, you just need to know the basics and you have a small phamphlet called a ready reference to refer to. Plus your Academy training and your Break in officer will bring you up to speed.
CHILL.

NorCalN00b
07-24-2006, 08:13 PM
He is only kidding. Don't freak out. Before I became a cadet many many years ago I too bought a Vehicle Code and tried to memorize it. Imagine my surprise and relief when someone told me that just a limited amount of law is used by peace officers, no matter which agency, in day to day work. The rest is there to look up for various and sundry reasons, which would take too long to explain here. Even lawyers don't know the specific laws. They just know where to look it up.
Example...you are a CHP officer and make an arrest out of an accident involving a driver who has killed some other person...you may be filing a 187 PC (murder), a 192 PC (manslaughter, or some variant of MS), 23153 a/b VC (felony DUI) and some Health and Safety Code violations (dope).
In the field, you just need to know the basics and you have a small phamphlet called a ready reference to refer to. Plus your Academy training and your Break in officer will bring you up to speed.
CHILL.
*breathes a sigh of relief*

I'm still have quite a few years ahead of me before I'm ready to apply to a LEO department but do you think it's a good idea to start studying these penal codes?

And 10-7, you suck!!

10-7
07-24-2006, 10:08 PM
And 10-7, you suck!!

Yeah, I know. But I wasted all that time memorizing that stuff and all they want me to do now is write 27315 CVC !!! :lol: :lol: