View Full Version : who gets priority with the dream list?
JT1419
11-30-1999, 12:00 AM
I think my chances look good on staying in the bay area. Atleast from what I was told from a couple of officers. I'm married, I own a home, and I have a school aged child. One officer did tell me something a little different. He said it's based off of SSN first. If you have any of the following: Hardship, Own a home, and/or have School age children then you get bumped to the top of the list. But, if there isn't an office with any needs within 60 miles of where you live or something like that you go back to being picked by SSN.
Just passing on what I was told.
I love the bay area and I would love to stay here. The wish list is the least of my concerns right now though. I just want to make it to the April academy.
Agaveman
07-21-2006, 01:08 PM
Hi,
My husband is at the academy getting ready for Sept graduation. We just got the dream list...not a dream for us in the bay area hoping to stay here as most cities are around LA. He keeps getting conflicting information about who gets priority. We do not own a home but we have two children who have special needs and although they are both under 5 they are enrolled in a specalized pre-school here with the county. Even though they are 3 and 4 they have to go to school unlike most 3 and 4 year olds. Does anyone know if this will matter?
MasTiempo
07-21-2006, 02:35 PM
Hi,
My husband is at the academy getting ready for Sept graduation. We just got the dream list...not a dream for us in the bay area hoping to stay here as most cities are around LA. He keeps getting conflicting information about who gets priority. We do not own a home but we have two children who have special needs and although they are both under 5 they are enrolled in a specalized pre-school here with the county. Even though they are 3 and 4 they have to go to school unlike most 3 and 4 year olds. Does anyone know if this will matter?
http://www.chp.ca.gov/recruiting/asg/ch7.pdf
Looks like you would qualify under F. unless they consider it a harship, which would get you up to B. Best of luck!
Agaveman
07-21-2006, 02:52 PM
Thanks for the info! I guess we'll just see what happens. ;)
DESERT RAT
07-21-2006, 03:33 PM
I think there is a topic about this somewhere on this site. Search, at the top right of page! Academy Assignments.... If you live, (Maybe its own?) within 60 minutes of a assignment(Mapquest) you would be given priority, however if someone else lives/ owns within the distance they get priority. Ok, now your tied! It would then revert to, if you have school aged kids in school, if someone else has the kids as well, then it's determined by Social#. I am no authority on this , however this was how it was explained when I was at the academy.
Now, lets say you dont live within 60 minutes of any of the assignments, it all comes down to your Social#.
23109
07-21-2006, 04:02 PM
The list came out ? What offices are on it ?
DESERT RAT
07-22-2006, 10:15 PM
Second Hand Info: New Hall, Blythe, Santa Fe Springs, Santa Ana, (E W S) LA, Redwood City, San Joser, thats all they could remember.
chp14480
07-23-2006, 12:35 AM
promoting out of the academy (from cadet to officer) you can only go to an office that is offered on the "wish" list that they give you, there are no hardship assignments until after your 1 year probation is up. if you own a home and live within 60 miles of an area that is on that list and you have kids in school then you will get priority. otherwise you have to wait in line with the last four of your ssn# as the determining factor. when i graduated it was the highest number got first pick (ie. 9999). my last 4 was 1275, i ended up in east la. but dont fret, if you live in the bay it wont take more than a year to transfer. i got to contra costa after my 1 year was up....
FastbackJack
07-23-2006, 08:43 AM
How often do you see the Monterey Area on the wish list?
How often do you see the Monterey Area on the wish list?
Rarely, but it happens. Maybe once or twice every couple years.
Agaveman
07-23-2006, 08:54 PM
How often do you see the Monterey Area on the wish list?
Gilroy is on the list.
Agaveman
07-23-2006, 08:58 PM
Second Hand Info: New Hall, Blythe, Santa Fe Springs, Santa Ana, (E W S) LA, Redwood City, San Joser, thats all they could remember.
Also...Oakland, Castro Valley, Baldwin Park, West Valley, Gilroy, Central LA
Second Hand Info: New Hall, Blythe, Santa Fe Springs, Santa Ana, (E W S) LA, Redwood City, San Joser, thats all they could remember.
Also...Oakland, Castro Valley, Baldwin Park, West Valley, Gilroy, Central LA
Central LA on the list? Now I've seen it all! :lol:
NorCalN00b
07-24-2006, 09:34 AM
Second Hand Info: New Hall, Blythe, Santa Fe Springs, Santa Ana, (E W S) LA, Redwood City, San Joser, thats all they could remember.
Also...Oakland, Castro Valley, Baldwin Park, West Valley, Gilroy, Central LA
Hell yeah, it's all about Oakland!! If I was a Chippy, I'd sure would love to work out of the Oakand office. There's nothing better than patroling the 880 freeway! How about the San Francisco office? Is it rare to get a spot there straight out of the CHP academy?
stickbug14
07-24-2006, 11:02 AM
Im shocked the Montery area office (Salinas) is not on the list more often. The cost of living is so high here most Officers with one year on, transfer out quickly because they cannot afford to live here. I here that office is always getting new cadets out of the academy because there is always a spot there.
If I was getting out of the CHP academy, Monterey would be my first priority. I own a home in the county and the last four digits of my SSN has a 0 first and only three digits after.
Dipmo
07-24-2006, 11:17 AM
Im shocked the Montery area office (Salinas) is not on the list more often. The cost of living is so high here most Officers with one year on, transfer out quickly because they cannot afford to live here. I here that office is always getting new cadets out of the academy because there is always a spot there.
If I was getting out of the CHP academy, Monterey would be my first priority. I own a home in the county and the last four digits of my SSN has a 0 first and only three digits after.
Soc. priority goes highest to lowest. A 9 as a first digit is optimal.
MicahJames
07-24-2006, 11:29 AM
Im shocked the Montery area office (Salinas) is not on the list more often. The cost of living is so high here most Officers with one year on, transfer out quickly because they cannot afford to live here. I here that office is always getting new cadets out of the academy because there is always a spot there.
If I was getting out of the CHP academy, Monterey would be my first priority. I own a home in the county and the last four digits of my SSN has a 0 first and only three digits after.
Soc. priority goes highest to lowest. A 9 as a first digit is optimal.
Actually, the recruitment PDF reads as follows;
"The last four digits of the Cadet's Social Security Number (e.g., the lower the number, the higher the priority). Most Cadet assignments are determined in this manner."
Dipmo
07-24-2006, 11:41 AM
Im shocked the Montery area office (Salinas) is not on the list more often. The cost of living is so high here most Officers with one year on, transfer out quickly because they cannot afford to live here. I here that office is always getting new cadets out of the academy because there is always a spot there.
If I was getting out of the CHP academy, Monterey would be my first priority. I own a home in the county and the last four digits of my SSN has a 0 first and only three digits after.
Soc. priority goes highest to lowest. A 9 as a first digit is optimal.
Actually, the recruitment PDF reads as follows;
"The last four digits of the Cadet's Social Security Number (e.g., the lower the number, the higher the priority). Most Cadet assignments are determined in this manner."
And my SOP, reading what recent graduates have written, and my BI says the opposite.
MicahJames
07-24-2006, 11:45 AM
*shrug*
I guess we'll never know.
propeller26
07-24-2006, 05:49 PM
the higher the last four on socials is optimal. Last four starting with a 9 is best.
Last four, starting with 9999. I'd put a significant wager on that.
Agaveman
07-25-2006, 09:10 PM
My husband's BI said it can change from class to class if they start at 0 or 9. I know I-06 started with 9.
G-Man
07-25-2006, 10:24 PM
III-05 started with the highest IV-05 Started with the highest I-06 started with the highest, I would wager they all start with the highest now.
My husband's BI said it can change from class to class if they start at 0 or 9. I know I-06 started with 9.
Anything is possible, but every class I am aware of has started with 9999.
Agaveman
08-01-2006, 09:35 PM
Just in case anyone is interested, my husband did get his first choice which was Oakland. We don't know if they gave us priority for the kids or not but all that matters is for now we aren't moving and we're pretty happy about that!
Nellie
08-01-2006, 10:03 PM
Just in case anyone is interested, my husband did get his first choice which was Oakland. We don't know if they gave us priority for the kids or not but all that matters is for now we aren't moving and we're pretty happy about that!
Awesome! Now, I'm just wondering what two got Hollister/Gilroy.
Badkharma
08-17-2006, 03:58 PM
So, when (waiting on citizenship - 4 more months until I can apply for it!!) I do join, I think I have a decent shot! :smile: I was worried about that, as my wife would rather stay put (although she'd be up for moving if need be). I'm married, have a house, kid probably on the way within the year, and my SSN starts with a 9! (and I'm easily within 60 miles of several applicable stations...). :badgrin:
But, lets not get ahead of ourselves. I have to apply for citizenship and get thru the app process first. :neutral:
WannaBeaChippie
08-17-2006, 05:14 PM
I start with 9 too, that's nice to know--I'd really like to come back to Oakland, or Dublin. The crazy places...
uoplax13
08-17-2006, 05:18 PM
I start with 9 too, that's nice to know--I'd really like to come back to Oakland, or Dublin. The crazy places...
I don't know about Oakland, but since Norcal and pretty much all of Valley aren't likely to happen straight out of the academy, I think Dublin would be nice.....not as crazy as some of the bigger Bay Area offices, but not as slow as some of the ones out in the middle of nowhere.
WannaBeaChippie
08-18-2006, 09:10 AM
Trust me Dublin has its moments the 580 and 680 merge are nightmares, Dublin has lots of crashes, lots of DUI's, and definitely alot of speeders.. I'd love to take Oakland though too...but let me put the brakes on. I need to get through the academy first...:biggrin: Where ever I go is cool, but if I had to pick...those places would be my top two choices.
mb116
10-18-2006, 01:50 PM
After reading that list, I have come to the conclusion that I am not even going to fill out my dream list because I am almost guaranteed not to get any of the places I pick. :badgrin:
I am not married, I have no kids, I don't own a home, I don't have any relatives that would depend on me to take care of them AND my SSN starts with a 1. So I am pretty much going to LA.
Thats ok though. I want to move. My family has never been one that travels much so I am ready to live somewhere else.
marshallortiz
10-18-2006, 03:24 PM
LA a place to learn!:biggrin:
RodeoChippie
10-18-2006, 05:23 PM
Choose an LA office as your first choice then it will seem like you get to go where you want.
CHPwannaBE
10-18-2006, 06:32 PM
I thought that most cadets out of the academy push for LA to get the quick experience under their belt? Well if where you are stationed depends on your last four ssn#s then I am in luck. I have three nines and another high digit.
Your Mentor
10-18-2006, 08:48 PM
Fifteen years ago, new officers were spread out between LA, SF, and the desert offices. For some reason, most desert offices are now relatively senior. Most classes are snow split between LA and SF. Since most recruiting is accomplished in metro areas, most people are prepared for duty in those offices. The last transfer list was mostly people with one to two years on the road, dispersing back to their homes, I imagine. Understand that there is no such thing as a designated 'training' office. Sure, there are offices which get a lot of rookies and so train more than others, but new graduates go where division chiefs decide they're needed. Barstow used to get a ton of rookies out of every class and is super busy on I-15. Those guys take more grinders than most officers will see in their career. Now, that office isn't taking many rookies. Same goes for Riverside and San Berdoo. Things change.
It amazes me to see how many Resident Posts have taken trainees recently. Used to be that you had to have WHISKERS to get into an RP - that isn't the case anymore.
If you want to go to LA or the Bay Area, your chances are pretty decent....but keep in mind that nothing's guaranteed on this job except the fact that you'll get a paycheck every month!
A paycheck! Where at, somebody please tell me:lol:
i don't see san diego metioned alot. I'm assuming SD is hard to get assigned to?
WantToBeCHP
11-02-2006, 08:32 AM
I'm with 9217, I never see anything from Temecula and futher south. Is San Diego the place to be?
i don't see san diego metioned alot. I'm assuming SD is hard to get assigned to?
I'm with 9217, I never see anything from Temecula and futher south. Is San Diego the place to be?
Is it the place to be? I guess that depends on whether or not you want to be in San Diego. For somebody trying to get to the Bay Area or Central Valley, it would probably NOT be the place to be. As far as major metro areas go, San Diego is pretty good - hence, you don't see many new officers going in there. The spots that open up from transfers are usually filled by incumbent officers with transfers on file, so rookies don't get in very often...but a few slide in every once in a while.
Oceanside hasn't taken a rookie in years (I think 1990 may still be the most recent one); Temecula has NEVER taken one since the office opened in 1985; El Cajon takes one or two once in a while, but the last two (the one out of this class and the last trainee to go in) both went to the Borrego Springs Resident Post; Capistrano almost never takes newbies (I can't even remember when the last one went in there).
IMO, the best way to approach it is not to sweat it too much - first of all, you have to get through the Academy before it even becomes an issue. Just fill out the dream sheet, take whatever you get, do your year of probation and throw in a transfer for somewhere closer to home (or wherever you want to end up). It may be an inconvenience, but it's good life experience - and you'll learn and have fun no matter where you go out of the Academy. You'll have a looooong career ahead of you, plenty of time to get back "home" and settle down.
Something else to look forward to in your career - you'll get to go through the same thing all over again every time you promote! :badgrin:
WantToBeCHP
11-02-2006, 08:01 PM
Is it the place to be? I guess that depends on whether or not you want to be in San Diego. For somebody trying to get to the Bay Area or Central Valley, it would probably NOT be the place to be. As far as major metro areas go, San Diego is pretty good - hence, you don't see many new officers going in there. The spots that open up from transfers are usually filled by incumbent officers with transfers on file, so rookies don't get in very often...but a few slide in every once in a while.
Oceanside hasn't taken a rookie in years (I think 1990 may still be the most recent one); Temecula has NEVER taken one since the office opened in 1985; El Cajon takes one or two once in a while, but the last two (the one out of this class and the last trainee to go in) both went to the Borrego Springs Resident Post; Capistrano almost never takes newbies (I can't even remember when the last one went in there).
IMO, the best way to approach it is not to sweat it too much - first of all, you have to get through the Academy before it even becomes an issue. Just fill out the dream sheet, take whatever you get, do your year of probation and throw in a transfer for somewhere closer to home (or wherever you want to end up). It may be an inconvenience, but it's good life experience - and you'll learn and have fun no matter where you go out of the Academy. You'll have a looooong career ahead of you, plenty of time to get back "home" and settle down.
Something else to look forward to in your career - you'll get to go through the same thing all over again every time you promote! :badgrin:
Thanks Mac. I noticed that your "location" says SoCal, is this were you have been since you started with the CHP or is this were you transfered to?
Thanks Mac. I noticed that your "location" says SoCal, is this were you have been since you started with the CHP or is this were you transfered to?
I've spent my whole career in SoCal - bouncing around between the greater LA and San Diego areas.
WantToBeCHP
11-02-2006, 08:15 PM
Thanks Mac. I noticed that your "location" says SoCal, is this were you have been since you started with the CHP or is this were you transfered to?
I've spent my whole career in SoCal - bouncing around between the greater LA and San Diego areas.
I get the feeling from you and other officers on this site that probably the place that you want to go the most, will probably NOT happen the first year. :smile:
I get the feeling from you and other officers on this site that probably the place that you want to go the most, will probably NOT happen the first year. :smile:
Like I've said before - it depends on where the place is that you want to go. Some people really dig LA and the Bay Area, so it's a lot easier for them to get where they want to go. If you live in a smaller/more rural town and/or an area where the officers are more senior, then yeah - it's going to take you a little time to get where you want to be.
IMO it's all worth it, though - and the beauty of it is that once you DO get "home", you don't ever have to leave unless you WANT to (i.e. promote, take a division/HQ position, etc.). Unlike the military, the Department basically never transfers you anywhere involuntarily.
CHP 11-99
11-03-2006, 08:13 AM
If you are a motor officer for a metro area, then you want to transfer to a office with no motors, but later decide that you want to go back to riding motors again. Do you need to go back to motor school?
If you are a motor officer for a metro area, then you want to transfer to a office with no motors, but later decide that you want to go back to riding motors again. Do you need to go back to motor school?
Yep.
Thanks for the replies. If i end up in LA it can't be any worse then me getting left in the south bronx with the sgt. saying "be here in 8 hours and don't get in trouble" :badgrin:
You guys have it made, just please realize that! :cool:
lilgordo78
12-25-2006, 10:09 PM
Does anyone know what was on the dream list for the class that graduated in December?? My huband just started and it has been a concern of mine where we are going to be. His SSI is in the mid numbers so we are hoping to get somewhere we pick. But I am just wondering what kind of places we will have to pick from?
Thanks!
snowdog
12-25-2006, 10:38 PM
Nobody will know, and it's not worth losing sleep over, until the dream list comes out.
Fire1
12-25-2006, 11:07 PM
And once it comes out ssn don't realy matter that much anyway. I got my first pick with a mid number, but my quad mate got towards the end of the list with higher numbers than mine. The point is, you can pick what you want, but be ready to be happy with whater you get.
lilgordo78
01-28-2007, 03:14 PM
Hey, my husband is at the academy right now in CTC-IV-06, he said that CTC-III-06 got there dream sheets does anyone know what was on them this time?? Just wondering? Thanks
dlg2k6
01-29-2007, 10:42 PM
I wanted to get dw's approval before I posted the dream list for CTC III-06. I think some of you will be a bit surprised at some of the choices...
GOLDEN GATE DIVISION - 45
Redwood City - 2
San Francisco - 5
Contra Costa - 4
San Jose - 10
Hayward - 5
Marin - 3
Oakland - 7
Castro Valley - 5
Dublin - 4
CENTRAL DIVISION - 2
Porterville - 1
Coalinga - 1
COASTAL DIVISION - 22
Hollister-Gilroy - 2
Monterey - 10
Big Sur - 1
Santa Barbara - 1
Ventura - 5
Santa Cruz - 3
SOUTHERN DIVISION - 51
Baldwin Park - 9
Newhall - 6
Santa Fe Springs - 10
Altadena - 4
West Valley - 3
East LA - 1
West LA - 5
Central LA - 13
INLAND DIVISION - 6
Bishop - 1
Needles - 1
Barstow - 1
Arrowhead -2
Parker Dam - 1
BORDER DIVISION - 14
Winterhaven - 3
Indio - 3
San Diego - 1
Blythe - 1
El Cajon - 2
Capistrano - 4
E433035
01-30-2007, 09:16 AM
From what I understand, that's a higher than normal number of openings in the Coastal Division?
Maybe these areas experienced a big spike in transfer requests. I could understand that as in general, it seems like many, many older workers are cashing out of here to retire or semi-retire and most younger working folks are literally streaming out of here for greener (cheaper) pastures at a frightening rate. The former has really been working in my favor lately as I'm looking to change jobs and the demand for seasoned (old fart!?) professionals is now skyrocketing here after being stagnant for the last 10 years or so. The later is a huge problem for recruitment into the lower ranks of firms in just about every industry.
bcjack
01-30-2007, 06:38 PM
Monterey 10...:shock:
Santa Maria 0...:cry:
From what I understand, that's a higher than normal number of openings in the Coastal Division?.....
Not as many transfers in for a lot of the Coastal Division offices these days due to the high cost of housing. Even a lot of newly-promoted sergeants are ending up in Coastal, for the same reason. However there are still a few "garden spots" that will hardly ever see new officers.
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