I was shocked when I was told this by a friend.....

[undertow999]

I have a friend who is currently going through the Academy of a Sheriff?s Department that I will not name. What really surprised me was that he told me how his instructors constantly talked down on the CHP. He explained to me that on a daily basis the Academy staff at his academy tells them how CHP officers are not real cops, and how they have it easier then they do.

This completely shocked me because I thought how crazy would an Academy staff be to instill such strong dislike for one agency? Why in the world would such an agency feel the necessity to talk down on fellow LEO?s ?

Criticism about the CHP is nothing new to me as I have a cousin who is a Deputy for a Northern CA County who is more then willing to explain to me why he is a real cop, and I wont be. Nevertheless, I just found it appalling that an Academy staff would talk down and single out one agency.

One thing I will say is that I have never heard a CHP officer tell me in conversation that other LE Agencies are not real cops. Not once have I heard a CHP officer speak negatively on a department as a whole.

This has not in any way effected my decision to attend the CHP Academy in September, nor will anyone?s opinion cause me to second guess my decision. I have more then enough reasons why I chose to apply with the CHP and not one other law enforcement agency.

Disclaimer: I am in no way applying my experiences to all Law Enforcement Agencies. I am only talking about the limited experience I have had with other Law Enforcement Agencies. This one event my friend described does not apply nor has it been implied to apply to all Law Enforcement Agencies.

[pupdog]

A PD officer told me recently that at CHP academy, all they do is BRAINWASH you to hate other departments! Where is that chip (no pun intended) on the shoulder coming from? I have NEVER EVER EVER heard a CHP officer make a derogatory comment toward other agencies. Officers from other agencies, not so much the case. The CHP officers I've met are also incredibly cordial toward the public. I can only say that about 1 officer from another agency that I've ever done a ride along with.
Sounds like the only 'brainwashing' going on isn't on CHP's end of things!

[stickbug14]

I have heard from other PD's out there that CHP is usally refered to AAA w/a gun. I have to disagree. I'm a police officer in a city and I have a lot of respect for the CHP. Sometimes I wish I had gone that route when I was 21. I think the reason CHP gets a bad rap from other PD's is that CHP mostly deals with the CVC and not the CPC (penal code). I'm not sure if in the rual areas the CHP gets to deal with the CPC than in the surbuban areas of the state. I have seen if a CHP officer gets a 273.5 PC, 243 PC, 484/487 PC, 245 PC on the highway than they call for the local Sherrif or PD that has jurisdiction to take over instead of taking the investigation themselves. Oh wel these are my thoughts.

[makakona]

is it considered brainwashing if my oldest thinks all cops and black and whites to belong to the chp? it's really adorable when she says it, but a sheriff friend didn't find it as endearing last weekend when she got excited about his "california highway patrol homework car."

[Your Mentor]

Many of us have family members in allied agencies and in rural communities, allied peers are as important as your own squad mates. Bashing is just prejudice from ignorance. Yes, we do work primarily in the vehicle code but that's because we chose to do that. I've handled 273.5's when the SO had no units on but that doesn't mean the SO wasn't doing their job. Resources are limited in the country. Anyway, everytime I've been confronted head-on with harsh opinions from allied personell, I'm automatically struck by how little the person actually knows about what we do or how we operate. Such judgemental individuals are always bitter, close-minded, and have self-inflated opinions of themselves. An academy instructor at a regional academy is almost never an active duty officer or deputy. Most are reserves or retired. Because of our live-in academy, we provide an immense amount of training which regional academies have never been able to match. Jealousy is probably at the root. The best strategy is to ignore it all. Frankly, I don't care what one individual from an allied agency thinks about the department or working traffic. There's an old saying in the sea services, "Choose your rate, choose your fate." And those same agencies have plenty of CHP supporters. Finally, no matter what you think about an allied agency or a specific allied agency member, back them up and do everything you can to help them. It's the only way to mend burnt bridges.

[Royd5150]

[quote=undertow999]I have a friend who is currently going through the Academy of a Sheriff?s Department that I will not name. What really surprised me was that he told me how his instructors constantly talked down on the CHP. He explained to me that on a daily basis the Academy staff at his academy tells them how CHP officers are not real cops, and how they have it easier then they do.

Undertow are you looking for a comparison of each agency? I belive there have been several listed in posts in diffrent sections of this forum. Or are you looking for a fight over who is better? I don't know about you, but I have opinions about all sorts of things. I like Pepsi better than Coke, but am not starting a thread shocked that others do not like Pepsi. I am sure that when you start the academy, and by the time you complete break-in you too will have opinions about agencies which work with in your area. My guess why these instructors say things in an academy class room, is because they have strong opinions and want to express them. No diffrent than instructors at any other college type instution.

Additional- I disagree with Your Mentor, i do not belive people are jellous of live-in academies with current officers as instructors. Look at LAPD,SFPD or others they dont seem to be jellous. I think its baised more on experinces of the instructors dealing with diffrent aspects of the CHP and thier officers.

[Mac]

....Anyway, everytime I've been confronted head-on with harsh opinions from allied personell, I'm automatically struck by how little the person actually knows about what we do or how we operate...
Agreed. Sometimes their actual knowledge of what we do and how we work is no better than what the general public gets from watching television shows! It's usually stereotypical stuff handed down to them from other people in their agency who don't know any better....self-perpetuating misinformation.

Finally, no matter what you think about an allied agency or a specific allied agency member, back them up and do everything you can to help them. It's the only way to mend burnt bridges.
The feelings/opinions about CHP are so deeply institutionalized in some agencies that nothing any (or all) of us could do would ever change it. Nonetheless, I still go out of my way to help them when they need it....as I've said before, we're all on the same team, shooting at the same goal.

[WannaBeaChippie]

Ive had people criticize me for coming to this agency...honestly I dont care, its not something that I get all but hurt about. Dont get into the hype...officers run their mouths about this agency because they wish they were in it. PD officers forget that the CHP, sheriff, FBI, heh..we're all on the same team. But sadly, everyone looks at being a Law Enforcement as some macho game. Just remember that you applied to be a CHP officer for a reason and forget everyone elses crap.

It's childish to talk down to young recruits about the choices people make, I can't stand it when people talk to me about CHP officers and the "Can't Handle Police wirk crap". I had a mailman the other day tell that I shouldnt be a CHP officer because they dont do nothing, and he said theyre not tought enough." I said to him "Why are you a mailman for the post office, why dont you work for UPS and deliver packages, it seems like the mailman doesn't do enough." I dunno, to me when a PD officer talks about a CHP officer, its like the Pot calling the Kettle Black. :rolleyes: you know what I mean?

When there is a major event and they need extra personnel to help them keep control, or they can't investigate and accident, or possibly find a suspect and they only have the vehicle description, they call the CHP. We all need each other, and working Law Enforcement some people don't think it really matters.

Don't let people take your spirit, its your career.

[Chippysgt]

If we are only AAA with guns they why have so many of us laid down our lives in the performance of our duties. I believe that most allied officers that put us down, in other than jest and banter, could not make the cut or had a real bad experience. We are looked upon as the finest traffic law enforcement agency in the world. Our opinions and methods are used as the benchmark for other agencies. We write the book on pursuits, DRE methods, PMA and patrol vehicle operations.
The reputation and respect that the CHP has always had is based on the demonstrated excellence that our officers show to others. If we act like partners with allied agencies we are treated as equals, if we act superior we will be treated with disrespect.
When I put on my uniform and strapped on my gun I always felt like I was first a California lawman and second a CHP officer. The bad guys don't look at the patch. Respect begets respect from others. Likewise competence and a willingness to help earns respect of your law enforcement peers in any department.

Usually bad attitudes about the CHP are a result of bad experiences with a member of this department and I hope the future generation learns early on that we are spread thin out there, as are many PDs and SOs and your life may depend on the relationship you have with other agencies.

[WannaBeaChippie]

If we are only AAA with guns they why have so many of us laid down our lives in the performance of our duties. I believe that most allied officers that put us down, in other than jest and banter, could not make the cut or had a real bad experience. We are looked upon as the finest traffic law enforcement agency in the world. Our opinions and methods are used as the benchmark for other agencies. We write the book on pursuits, DRE methods, PMA and patrol vehicle operations.
The reputation and respect that the CHP has always had is based on the demonstrated excellence that our officers show to others. If we act like partners with allied agencies we are treated as equals, if we act superior we will be treated with disrespect.
When I put on my uniform and strapped on my gun I always felt like I was first a California lawman and second a CHP officer. The bad guys don't look at the patch. Respect begets respect from others. Likewise competence and a willingness to help earns respect of your law enforcement peers in any department.

Usually bad attitudes about the CHP are a result of bad experiences with a member of this department and I hope the future generation learns early on that we are spread thin out there, as are many PDs and SOs and your life may depend on the relationship you have with other agencies.

True..very true..and if more people working law enforcement come together...catching the people on the street will be much easier. It's the Conflict Model...

[Flying Pig]

Unfortunately its everywhere.....CHP officers do it, Deputies do it, Police officers do it. Believe me..I have heard plenty of CHP officers make negative comments about PD and Sheriff's and visa versa. One comment was actually directed at me on a T/C.....and Ive made them right back about CHP or PD. Its usually, in my experience, made out of frustration on a call, or something like that. Your right though...it is unprofessional for an academy instructor to continually bash another agency....because when your yelling on the radio..you dont care what patch is coming to help you. And it creates hostility for no reason. Ive been on perimeters right next to CHP officers swaping flavors of Gatorade! But I would be hard pressed to say that there is much jealousy involved in any comments that are made.

I was at a SWAT School and we were discussing active shooter drills and the comment was made about what you should do when CHP arrives.......the answer was have them direct traffic. And he wasnt joking. And the week prior I had searched a house with a CHP officer looking for a drive-by shooting suspect. And your right it underminds the teamwork and the brotherhood.....but what it also does on a tactical note is teaches that student that another agency is not a resource. And in some areas of this state you need EVERYBODY that comes. Could you imagine an active shooter incident....and an agency, lets say...the CHP....comes on scene as your next available unit and you were taught to have them direct traffic? How many zero's did you want on the end of that check ma'am??? Oh, and were sorry about your daughter.

I have learned over the years, working different assignments, going to schools, etc. that pretty much the same type of person becomes a cop across the board. The vast majority of us are catalysts that go out and make things happen. I like to see a good crash like any other sick cop, and have had CHP officers show up on my 273.5 calls just to see what happened or if the chick was hot! Sure we poke fun at each other but I gaurantee if I see any cop on the side of the road in a fight, on or off duty...Im gettin a piece! And Im sure any other color of uniform would do the same. So when you hear those comments just brush them off. Being a Deputy myself, I can say the biggest majority dont give any of it a thought.

[Your Mentor]

Royd5150,
I've heard plenty of slamming from LAPD and SFPD members. Incidentally, LAPD's instructors are all in-service. No one here is asserting that any one agency is collectively slamming us or other agencies. The discussion is referring to individuals doing so. Also, I never said anyone was specifically jealous of our Academy. I was making a generalized reference regarding some allied members being jealous of our level of training. Until you go through it, you can't possible fathom how much goes into our Academy training. Having taught there and having also attended many POST instructor workshops and meetings, I have had personal contact with instructors from nearly every other academy in the state. I can't tell you how often, during a workshop per se, where subject matter experts (academy instructors) were arguing about curriculum and the POST representative would specifically ask what we do regarding the subject. Our Academy influences POST curriculum more than any other academy. POST representatives sit in on our classes routinely. I noted the professional jealousy specifically from regional (college) academy instructors. They would always try to give us or the LAPD instructors their resumes.

Flying Pig,
You're so right. This phenomina is timeless and we'll be dealing with it until we retire. Ignoring it without compromising your own integrity is the only thing we can do.

[bcjack]

Can't we all just get along???

Rodney King, 1992

[chippette]

I agree with you flying pig. having been an Explorer for the CHP I have to tell you that I have had Explorers from my local sheriffs office tell me that all the chp is aaa with a gun and it just makes me laugh because they have no idea what the chp does. Yeah I have heard officers talk smack on another department but I just see it as ingnorance. Everyone just has to remember that ultimatly we are all working for the same cause. In my county we have such a shortage of Sheriff deputies and CHP officers that everyone works together they all back eachother up.

[snowdog]

Next time you hear this, relate this story. AAA with a gun? I don't think so and I bet Deputy Piquette's family doesn't think so either.
The names have been removed just because.

SUBJECT: SUSPECT ARRESTED IN CONNECTION WITH FATAL TRAFFIC
COLLISION INVOLVING LASD DEPUTY

SYNOPSIS:
ON JULY 7, 2006, AT APPROXIMATELY 5:07 A.M., SANTA ANA CHP OFFICERS
INVESTIGATED A FATAL COLLISION INVOLVING AN ON-DUTY LOS ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF
DEPUTY, DAVID PIQUETTE. DEPUTY PIQUETTE TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID STRIKING
A KITCHEN STOVE LYING IN TRAFFIC LANES ON W/B SR 91 WEST OF TUSTIN AVENUE.
THE STOVE HAD FALLEN OUT OF THE BED OF A FORD F250 PICKUP TRUCK. AS DEPUTY
PIQUETTE SWERVED TO THE RIGHT, HE STRUCK A 1992 MACK 2 AXLE TRACTOR PULLING
TWO BEALL BULK CARRIER TANK TRAILERS LOADED WITH CEMENT. DEPUTY PIQUETTE'S
VEHICLE BECAME ENTANGLED BETWEEN THE SEMI AND THE PULL TRAILERS. THE TRACTOR
AND PULL TRAILERS OVERTURNED COMING TO REST ON TOP OF DEPUTY PIQUETTE'S
VEHICLE INFLICTING FATAL INJURIES.

SUMMARY OF THE INCIDENT:
ON JULY 11, 2006, AT APPROXIMATELY 6:56 P.M., THE DRIVER OF THE TRUCK, ..........
, 30 YEARS OLD AND A RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA, WAS
ARRESTED BY THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL BORDER DIVISION INVESTIGATIVE
SERVICES UNIT. ........ WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FALLEN STOVE AND SUBSEQUENT
COLLISION INVOLVING THE DEATH OF DEPUTY DAVID PIQUETTE.

THE INVESTIGATION DETERMINED THAT ON JULY 7, 2006, AT APPROXIMATELY 5:00 A.M.,
................. WAS DRIVING A 2006 FORD F250, WITH PAPER LICENSE PLATES,
WESTBOUND SR 91 IN THE VICINITY OF TUSTIN AVENUE, CITY OF ANAHEIM. THE FORD'S
TRUCK BED WAS LOADED WITH SEVERAL STOLEN APPLIANCES TAKEN FROM A NEW HOME
CONSTRUCTION SITE IN THE CITY OF MENIFEE EARLIER THAT MORNING. .............
FAILED TO SECURE THE STOLEN LOAD AND A FULL-SIZE KITCHEN STOVE
SUBSEQUENTLY FELL FROM THE BED OF HIS TRUCK ONTO THE ROADWAY OF SR 91. A
MOTORIST BEHIND ............. SAW THE STOVE FALL OUT OF THE TRUCK AND SUBSEQUENTLY
RAN INTO IT. ............. CONTINUED WESTBOUND ON SR 91 WITH THE WITNESS IN
PURSUIT. THE WITNESS ATTEMPTED TO STOP THE FORD BY CONTINUALLY FLASHING HIS
HIGH BEAM LIGHTS ON AND OFF. ................ IGNORED THE WITNESSES ATTEMPTS AND
SPED AWAY. AS THE WITNESS CONTINUED TO FOLLOW, ............ EXITED THE FREEWAY
AND ENTERED A PRIVATE PARKING LOT. UPON COMING TO A COMPLETE STOP, ............
ABRUPTLY APPROACHED THE MOTORIST WHILE MAKING VERBAL THREATS TO HARM HIM.
THE MOTORIST, NOT BACKING DOWN, CONFRONTED ............. WITH THE KNOWLEDGE HE HAD
DROPPED A STOVE ON THE FREEWAY WHICH CAUSED DAMAGE TO HIS VEHICLE AND OTHER
COLLISIONS. ........... THEN PROVIDED THE MOTORIST WITH THE FORD'S TRUE REGISTERED
OWNER'S NAME AND INSURANCE INFORMATION, BUT PROVIDED A FALSE NAME AND TELEPHONE
NUMBER FOR HIMSELF. ALTHOUGH HAVING KNOWLEDGE OF THE INCIDENTS, ........... FAILED
TO RETURN TO THE COLLISION SCENE AND DID NOT NOTIFY LAW ENFORCEMENT OF HIS
INVOLVEMENT.

THROUGH FOLLOW UP INVESTIGATION, THE BORDER DIVISION INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES
UNIT POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED ........................... AS THE DRIVER OF THE 2006 FORD
F250 AND AS THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR THE FALLEN LOAD.

FOLLOWING ................. ARREST, THE STOLEN APPLIANCES HE WAS TRANSPORTING ALONG WITH
A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL STOLEN ITEMS WERE RECOVERED AT A RESIDENCE IN PALM
SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA AND AT A STORAGE FACILITY IN THE CITY OF IRVINE.

ACTIONS TAKEN:
ON JULY 11, 2006, BORDER DIVISION ISU OBTAINED TWO SEARCH WARRANTS. ONE FOR A
RESIDENCE IN THE CITY OF IRVINE WHICH IS OWNED BY THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE
SUSPECT VEHICLE AND THE SECOND WARRANT WAS OBTAINED FOR THE SUSPECTS RESIDENCE
IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, ...................... WAS
ARRESTED AFTER LEAVING HIS RESIDENCE IN THE FORD F-250 PICKUP. HE WAS BOOKED
INTO ORANGE COUNTY JAIL BY BORDER DIVISION ISU INVESTIGATORS AND CHARGED WITH
496 PC AND 14601.1 VC. SERGEANT .................... WAS ON-SCENE DURING
THE ARREST. BORDER DIVISION INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES LIEUTENANT .............
RESPONDED TO THE SCENE AND SUBSEQUENTLY NOTIFIED ASSISTANT CHIEF ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
OF THE OUTCOME.

ON JULY 13, 2006, THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CHARGED ............
WITH SECTION 187 OF THE PENAL CODE AS A RESULT OF HIS
INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEATH OF DEPUTY PIQUETTE WHILE IN THE COMMISSION OF A
FELONY.

ISU INVESTIGATOR ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, AND SANTA ANA AREA SERGEANT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
WILL HANDLE THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. THE COLLISION IS STILL UNDER
INVESTIGATION BY OFFICER ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, OF THE SANTA ANA AREA.


Thats what I call good old fashion police work.

[undertow999]

Royd5150, I was not looking for a fight over which agency is better or anything like that. It is ibvious that I believe the CHP to be a better suited agency for myself, hence my applying only with the CHP. This thread was only started because I just wanted to get others opinions on the experience my friend had.

I appreciate all the responses and information.

[bcjack]

Snowdog:

There is no way to describe your story except OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is amazing what can be accomplished when citizens get involved, officers work together and put a REAL piece of s*** behind bars. :biggrin:

[Mac]

ON JULY 13, 2006, THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CHARGED ............
WITH SECTION 187 OF THE PENAL CODE AS A RESULT OF HIS
INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEATH OF DEPUTY PIQUETTE WHILE IN THE COMMISSION OF A
FELONY.

NIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately it doesn't bring Deputy Piquette back, but at least the criminal was caught and will pay the consequences. My hat definitely goes off to the civilian witness who confronted him and didn't back down, too - without him, the criminal may never have been caught.

[TheForceCHP]

Now my turn to tell a little something. First off I haven't even made it to the academy, but I hear the same stuff from officers that I talk to about the CHP this and the CHP that.

Now onto something that really took me by surprise. My neighbors across the street used to be involved with gangs and drugs, luckily since their kids have grown up the family as a whole has really gotten a lot better. I was talking to the mom, who is about 50 something, and she was telling me how proud she was for me. She knows that I am doing CHP because my BI talked to her and she also often sees me running in the morning and yells for me to keep up the good work.
Well, Saturday morning when I am getting back from my run she yells over to me and I walk over to see what she wants. She proceeds to tell me about how proud she is that I am doing something good with my life. She then goes on to tell me how the CHP is somebody that her family really respects and when they see them on the rode they always make sure to behave because the "big dogs"(what they call the CHP) is around. She informs me that her family has had little small talk about me and then when they talk about me, or how they saw me that day, that they now refer to me as a "big dog." She also went into a little about how she has no respect for the local _____'s because they don't know their stuff and are not professional like the CHP.

I did not post this to talk trash about other agencies, but just wanted to post about the little discussion that I had with somebody who used to often be on the wrong side of the law and how much they look favorably on the CHP.

[sweetdancer]

All the agencies bash each other, but I think it's just in jest, or like someone else said, a bad personal experience with a CHP officer. But the officer I went on my ride with was making fun of the sheriff's and the firemen too.

[HwyChaser]

I?ve said it on this board before. As an officer with the CHP, you have just as much of a chance of being killed by some dirtbag as you would with any other department. You will make TONS of arrest throughout your career; some misdemeanor and some felony. Most will be associated with the vehicle code and a lot will be from the penal code. Not too many beat cops handle homicides. Just last week, I handled a triple fatal DUI traffic collision. The charge on that is 191.5 PC (penal code). The DUI driver at fault stated she was a passenger and gave some legit names that were supposed to be the driver. It took a ton of follow-up to eliminate the folks she placed as the driver. She is now looking at a long time in prison. I call that police work. I didn?t kick it to some investigator. I handled it on my own. I have also done follow up on non traffic related crimes and made arrests.

All departments poke fun at each other, and CHP officers do it too. The whole AAA with a badge thing started a looooong time ago and has just carried on. When you are on the scene of a serious incident, its amazing how it doesn?t matter what patch you have on your sleeve.

[RoadDawg]

I think every agency has its specialty... and ours is traffic. That is not to say we cant handle crimes listed in the penal code, but we are more tied to the vehicle code. With me, its usually good nature ribbing.... Example, recently we had an in-custody get away from an officer, and the local PD caught him. We heard about it for quite some time in the jail, but then one of our guys hooked a .20%, DUI, who had been cited and released by the same PD 10 minutes before we stopped him. We returned the jabs, and let them hear about that... but its all in good fun. Some are jealous over pay, and others over other things... but all and all I think we respect each other. If it comes to a fatal collision, any PD would gladly let us handle, as we would gladly let most handle any murder we may encounter. As HwyChaser stated, when you need assistance on the streets it doesn't matter what the patch says, so long as its a patch....

(However I would bet, the Academy throwing down the CHP is the LA CO Sheriff's Dept... just an educated guess!)

[Shawn2180]

I work for a local agency and have nothing but respect for the CHP. When I was in the academy there was a little "friendly" bashing, but it was all in good fun. I have been on several calls w/ CHP and would not hesitate to have them as my back up, or back them up as well. Besides, those boys can drive!! I have been in several pursuits w/ chippies and I was very impressed. Nothing but love from the "locals" here.

[Flying Pig]

The Force CHP...



What she really said was "The CHP never bothered us."

I have run into this many times...people dont like what I tell them....so suddenly I am "unproffessional and dont know anything" . Most local dirtbags dont like the local PD or S.O because we are, 99% of the time, the ones dragging hubby or mom out of the house, or breaking up their gangster parties. I was on a domestic violence call where a CHP assisted, and when I arrested hubby. She said "Im going to talk to the CHP officer and hes going to order you to let him go." She went on to say that Deputies were all a$$holes and the CHP officers were "nice and understanding and dont bother people" About 5 minutes later, she came back all upset and said "Hes a d--k too!"
If she has/had little gangster off-spring, definitely keep your distance from them....I imagine the CHP wasnt the ones dealing with them, it was your local PD. Given her comments about the local PD, I would imagine she sees all cops in the same light. Maybe her intentions are lagit but I gaurantee her gangster doper kids arent. And her view of your local agency has probably stemmed from them taking care of business...her family being the business. The CHP probably just never had the pleasure of partaking in the mutual joy of jacking up her critters. Im sure she is quite the authority on the law enforcement code of ethics and case law. Besides most peoples perceptions of police work comes from CSI and Law and Order.
Personally, I could care less if the local dirtbag population has no respect for me, because their version of respect is 180 degrees from my version. Their lack of respect for the law and society, then turning around and saying they respect you......sorry, cant have both. If I run across a decent citizen who is upset with the local law enforcement, I am genuinley concerned and attempt to see what I can do to change their view. If a criminal tells me how nice the local PD/SO is, I look for a way to take him to jail because because he's full of crap and is trying to pull one over on me. Any criminal you run across will always like YOUR agency the best! Unitil they are sitting in the back seat of your car or know they've been caught. When somebody praises you in the performance of your duties...consider the timing and the source.

[TheForceCHP]

The Force CHP...



What she really said was "The CHP never bothered us."

I have run into this many times...people dont like what I tell them....so suddenly I am "unproffessional and dont know anything" . Most local dirtbags dont like the local PD or S.O because we are, 99% of the time, the ones dragging hubby or mom out of the house, or breaking up their gangster parties. I was on a domestic violence call where a CHP assisted, and when I arrested hubby. She said "Im going to talk to the CHP officer and hes going to order you to let him go." She went on to say that Deputies were all a$$holes and the CHP officers were "nice and understanding and dont bother people" About 5 minutes later, she came back all upset and said "Hes a d--k too!"
If she has/had little gangster off-spring, definitely keep your distance from them....I imagine the CHP wasnt the ones dealing with them, it was your local PD. Given her comments about the local PD, I would imagine she sees all cops in the same light. Maybe her intentions are lagit but I gaurantee her gangster doper kids arent. And her view of your local agency has probably stemmed from them taking care of business...her family being the business. The CHP probably just never had the pleasure of partaking in the mutual joy of jacking up her critters. Im sure she is quite the authority on the law enforcement code of ethics and case law. Besides most peoples perceptions of police work comes from CSI and Law and Order.
Personally, I could care less if the local dirtbag population has no respect for me, because their version of respect is 180 degrees from my version. Their lack of respect for the law and society, then turning around and saying they respect you......sorry, cant have both. If I run across a decent citizen who is upset with the local law enforcement, I am genuinley concerned and attempt to see what I can do to change their view. If a criminal tells me how nice the local PD/SO is, I look for a way to take him to jail because because he's full of crap and is trying to pull one over on me. Any criminal you run across will always like YOUR agency the best! Unitil they are sitting in the back seat of your car or know they've been caught. When somebody praises you in the performance of your duties...consider the timing and the source.

I agree with what you said above. I know that she has had CHP contact, but also understand that her past problems where dealing more with the local LE then CHP. I was proud by what she said about the CHP, but do realize I am proud because she was saying something that I wanted to hear her say. Personally I have not had to deal with LE on bad terms, one CHP ticket but I do not have anything bad to say about that, though on several occasions I have attempted to talk with my local LE and was less then pleased with how I was treated. I do not look at all on them in a bad manner, but like to look at it as what it is, and that is they are individual's that do not always represent a larger group.

[Eagl5]

Just good old fashioned boys (and girls) being boys (and girls). You want proof attend the California Police Officers Memorial events or go to Washington DC to the national memorial. We r a brother and sisterhood

Semper Fi

[x MAIT]

I have gone to training in Texas and in Illinois and more than once was called AAA with a gun. It's no big deal. One thing to keep in mind is that out of every law enforcement agency in the country, only NYPD has lost more officers than the CHP and they are many times larger and many years older than we are.

[Slattery]

It happens here in Australia well. There are some members out there that bag Highway Patrol members, calling them "concrete heads" among other things, lol.

[Nonsequitur]

It is all in jest. When it comes down to it we are all brothers/sisters in blue/tan. Just last night CHP sent a letter to the probationary Officer I was working with, because that Officer, while off-duty, stopped on the Bay Bridge and helped a lone CHP Sgt with a resisting subject. The kid was shocked he got any recognition for it and simply stated I was just helping another brother out.

BTW, he just finished his FTO, and had no notion of downplaying anything about the CHP. I have nothing but immense respect for the CHP and the Officers themselves.

Heck I have heard more negativity about my own agency, especially from smaller PD's, than I have heard about the CHP within my agency. If I were to believe everything I hear, then we are nothing more than "a bunch of out of control cowboy's that get away with everything".

It is just affiliational psychology, basically what you are affiliated with is the best because you are a part of it and is another example of human hubris.

[dw]

If I were to believe everything I hear, then we are nothing more than "a bunch of out of control cowboy's that get away with everything".Get away with everything??? But that would mean your glorious police commission wasn't doing thier job of micromanaging every f****** thing you guys do. I certainly don't have the patience to deal with what you guys are put through.

[feedmelies]

I don't know if this has been addressed before, but I'll make mention of it anyway. I find it particularly inspiring when I read older posts from individuals that state something along the lines of, "I know I am not an Officer yet, but...", or "Although I am not in the Academy yet,...", and I can visibly see the "Verified Chippie" tag showing that they did eventually apply and make it as an Officer.

Good stuff.

Maybe one day I'll be so lucky!

I go on my second ride along on Thursday. Only one more year of school to go before I get my degree and start the process...

[retchp]

You are the first to address this 'FML', I have been on here since the early days and I take a very small amount of pride in having encouraged a couple of those you speak of to pursue their dream. It really is kind of nice to watch someone come on here and in the span of about a year or more go from civilian to "verified chippie" and see them posting on here and encouraging others. Nice thing to have noted and commented on. We really do have a very nice mix on here: civilians, applicants, cadets, cadet spouses, officers, supervisors, comm operators, officer spouses, retired officers and retired supervisors and so forth. It is great to be a participant.

[bcjack]

You are the first to address this 'FML', I have been on here since the early days and I take a very small amount of pride in having encouraged a couple of those you speak of to pursue their dream. It really is kind of nice to watch someone come on here and in the span of about a year or more go from civilian to "verified chippie" and see them posting on here and encouraging others. Nice thing to have noted and commented on. We really do have a very nice mix on here: civilians, applicants, cadets, cadet spouses, officers, supervisors, comm operators, officer spouses, retired officers and retired supervisors and so forth. It is great to be a participant.


Don't forget the wannedtobe!!!:doh: