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bananaman
11-09-2010, 10:45 AM
Awhile back I was pulled over about 200 miles from home under suspicion of DUI. (No other driving infraction was committed.) I felt I was truthful, courteous and cooperative to the officer. I said I had a pint of beer with lunch about an hour earlier, and even went for a walk before getting back behind the wheel. He told me I passed all 9 of the coordination tests, and showed me the breath machine reading of .01+.

He then ordered me back to my car, and he went to the passenger seat of his patrol vehicle for about 10 minutes. He returned to my car, tossed my paperwork on the passenger seat, and said, "you are free to go." I thanked him, and asked him his name. "My name is Officer D. Smith [NOT HIS REAL NAME.]" I then asked for his first name, and he replied, "I said my name is D. Smith, you better leave before I change my mind." OK, I vamoosed.

Several months later I was in the area again, and stopped in the office nearest my detention. The officer behind the desk was VERY cooperative and friendly and concerned. However, he had never heard of Officer D. Smith, and when he checked the computer, he said there were 4 officers on the force with the name D. Smith, all based in different locations more than 150 miles from where he pulled me over. The desk officer told me further that patrolmen all the time are temporarily reassigned to other duties and responsibilities without the knowledge of the local office.

So here is what I would like to know, in case this ever happens again:

Am I entitled to know the full name and any other sort of identification of this or any officer? Is there a regulation or law that requires officers to remain anonymous?

Are patrol officers supervised, and if so, how do we motorists find out whether the officers are from the local office or from some distant place?

After he determined that I had not broken any laws, and that I was not DUI, why was I not released? What was he doing for 10 minutes back at his patrol vehicle?

Finally, I assume that he has to make some sort of accounting of his time, especially when he was not patrolling for nearly one hour. What sort of information is contained in this accounting? Since I was the person directly involved with this procedure, am I entitled to a copy of this accounting to see what the officer wrote down about me?

Thanks for your responses, and I hope this does not happen again. It had been over 20 years since my last traffic stop for any reason, and this one did not leave me with a particularly good feeling about the CHP procedures once it was determined that no infraction or crime had been committed.

Vinnie
11-09-2010, 11:09 AM
First, be positive of the Agency to which your contact Officer belonged. Sometimes, other Agencies all over the State wear uniforms similar to those worn by the CHP, and they're difficult to distinguish unless you look at the emblems on the patrol vehicle or the uniform shoulder patch. Also, keep in mind there have been alot of impersonators out there lately... I'm not saying your guy was one of them, but it's possible. Every Officer working for the CHP has a badge on his chest with a number on it, and you can record that number, if your Officer was indeed a member of the CHP.

The easiest way to identify your Officer at this point (which begs the question as to why it's important at this point, but that's your call), is to go by the Agency's office nearest the location of the contact, and ask. You could be routed to a photographic roster if the Agency has one, provided some other means of identifying the Officer, or they could start or continue an investigation into an impersonator out there.

As for the length of the detention, if your Officer was indeed a real Police Officer, it's not uncommon for Officers from all Agencies to run wants and warrants checks on drivers prior to releasing them from a detention. If your Officer was some kind of impersonator, thank whomever it is that you pray to that you're still alive.

Thank you for continuing the drive safely!

G-Man
11-10-2010, 06:52 PM
So here is what I would like to know, in case this ever happens again:

Am I entitled to know the full name and any other sort of identification of this or any officer? Is there a regulation or law that requires officers to remain anonymous?

Last name and ID# are all that is required except when testifying in court.

Are patrol officers supervised, and if so, how do we motorists find out whether the officers are from the local office or from some distant place?

Yes, you can ask the Officer what office they are from.

After he determined that I had not broken any laws, and that I was not DUI, why was I not released? What was he doing for 10 minutes back at his patrol vehicle?

I don't know, there are any number of reasons.

Finally, I assume that he has to make some sort of accounting of his time, especially when he was not patrolling for nearly one hour. What sort of information is contained in this accounting? Since I was the person directly involved with this procedure, am I entitled to a copy of this accounting to see what the officer wrote down about me?

Most agencies do, information varies by situation, but is usually pretty general. No, unless said information results in charges filed against you.

Thanks for your responses, and I hope this does not happen again. It had been over 20 years since my last traffic stop for any reason, and this one did not leave me with a particularly good feeling about the CHP procedures once it was determined that no infraction or crime had been committed.

An Officer cannot stop you for no reason, you probably did something.


Hope this helps.

Motor City Cop
11-20-2010, 08:44 AM
Love the quote G Man, “Nowhere in your incoherent rambling did you come close to what can be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber having heard it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.” -Unknown!!

Don't know his name but isn't that the Nibb High School principal from Billy Madison?

uoplax13
11-21-2010, 11:08 AM
Love the quote G Man, “Nowhere in your incoherent rambling did you come close to what can be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber having heard it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.” -Unknown!!

Don't know his name but isn't that the Nibb High School principal from Billy Madison?


Yes! I'll take "Burning Dog Poo and the Human Response"!

G-Man
11-22-2010, 04:14 PM
Love the quote G Man, “Nowhere in your incoherent rambling did you come close to what can be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber having heard it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.” -Unknown!!

Don't know his name but isn't that the Nibb High School principal from Billy Madison?

Yes, I believe it is. I wasn't totally sure which is why I left it unknown. I didn't want to give credit to the wrong person.

Motor City Cop
11-26-2010, 05:11 AM
Yes! I'll take "Burning Dog Poo and the Human Response"!
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